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Speyside
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7 years ago

So do our brains function differently, or are we products of the environment we were raised in? And no, this is not intended to be political. I have read articles/studies that espouse both ideas. While both utilize statistical data, it is to easy to manipulate data to prove any idea. I do know I was raised in a conservative family, and on most issues I am not conservative, but that is only ancidotal. A question I find interesting, no more, no less.

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rfenst
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7 years ago

I have read articles/studies that espouse both ideas. While both utilize statistical data, it is to easy to manipulate data to prove any idea.

Speyside wrote:

so data is bad?

Cereal City Cigar Smoker
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7 years ago

I think it's a combination of environment and life experience. Both my parents were "My country right or wrong" Republicans in NY which is, of course, a very liberal state. Growing up with a diverse group of friends and going out is state to college helped to shape my perspective on the world around me. Growing up in the turbulent sixties was also a factor.

Being open to new ideas and life experiences is a factor. Had I stayed in the same place I grew up in, I believe that I would be a totally different person than I am today. Not sure if that's good or bad though ....:-k

My 3¢

c3s

USNGunner
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7 years ago

Speyside wrote:

I would say all of the above. My beliefs are based on what I have actually experienced in my life. All the years roaming the Earth really opened my eyes. Pretty much seen it all. Dealt with every religion out there, and more cultures and folks than I can count. All of it rubbed off on me one way or the other. While some are just inherently messed up, they are not without their good points. "Even a broken clock is right twice a day!"

I don't do labels. At least not those. Those are political brands. We have a constitution, follow it.

Frankly, I've come to believe the parties are all here to keep us at each other's throats so they can maintain their control. And the ones that aren't really in power, want their turn at the trough.

Follow the money. Be it in politics, science, what ever. Somebody is getting paid, somewhere.

Honestly, I'm praying for the zombie apocalypse before I get too old to play in it. :-"

Speyside
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7 years ago

Robert, I wouldn't say bad, but it is as easy as picking where to gather the data to have biased data. New York city data would look much different that data from rural areas of Texas. Also, I am not sure that statistics can provide any useful answers to this question.

JadeRose
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7 years ago

Oh yeah.....THIS will end well

victor809
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7 years ago

I think we really need to be specific here regarding what a "conservative" is.

Talk to someone like TW and he has been a republican his whole life. But the trumpers here call him a liberal.

I get called a liberal here, despite my being pro 2nd amendment, pro big business... simply because I won't toe the line on crap associated with religious beliefs... and that I think trump is a moron

These lines are blurred intentionally, to allow people a "us vs them" mentality. That's how you get groups riled up. That's what you see at sporting events.... and politics have become much closer to a sporting event than an actual administration of government at this point in time.

If someone doesn't agree with you on a topic, the go-to response is to label them as the party other than yours, and then discount everything they say because of it. This has made it very difficult to actually identify what a liberal is, what a conservative is...etc

Oh...and wrong forum noob.

rfenst
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7 years ago

Oh yeah.....THIS will end well

JadeRose wrote:

LOL. No it won't.

ZRX1200
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7 years ago

People influence us throughout life, those that impart their beliefs in a way that is born out in what we see I think tend to have the most impact. My dads side is CC and my moms family is 98.2% “liberal” ranging from classic liberalism to modern technocrat/collectivism/socialism.

The most important thing I ever learned was to be strong enough in your convictions to question them, and always try arguing both sides to see your strengths and weakness’s.

I doubt much is really genetically inherent, more “OTJ” so to speak than anything.

Whistlebritches
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7 years ago

#10

Raised Baptist in Texas...…..conservative but in the last 10 years or so I've developed a libertarian streak

Speyside
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

7 years ago

#11

LMAO!!! Victor pulling a Tail. I specifically said I did not mean this in a political context. Then you chose to tell me it was political. So you are telling me what I think. This is only political if people chose to politicize it. The question is philosophical in nature. It is about the mind, and human development. Conservative, moderate, and liberal are states of mind. They were that long before people chose to incorrectly politicize them.

tailgater
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7 years ago

#12

Speyside wrote:

Saying you don't intend it doesn't mean it isn't.

If I went over to a kid with cancer and said "I don't intend to be mean, but you're gonna die young".
That would be mean.

And only a stupid person would say otherwise.

Which gets us back to the OP.

tonygraz
Herf-A-Holic

7 years ago

#13

Liberal parents, but I started out conservative. The more I learned the more liberal I became. I don't think anyone is a pure conservative, moderate or liberal. I still have a few conservative views but moderate and liberal ideas seem to make sense.

DrafterX
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7 years ago

#14

Liberalism is a choice... 😟

fishinguitarman
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7 years ago

#15

Obama for President!!!!

Of Kenya!

frankj1
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7 years ago

#16

Liberalism is a choice... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Genetic

DrafterX
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7 years ago

#17

🤣

steve02
Aficionado

7 years ago

#18

As Churchill said, ‘if you’re in your 20s and you aren’t liberal, then you have no heart. If you’re in your 40s and you aren’t conservative, you have no brain.’

I, on the other hand, am a Constitutionalist.