Palama
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6 years ago
In case you missed this:

Ever noticed that you are the only one that sees it your way.

I'm willing to go down this road one last time.

You wanted to bet 5 sticks per game,nothing was ever said about betting a certain amount for the entire SERIES.Please remember it'll take me two minutes to pull up the original thread so please there is no use in you fabricating schit now.WE did in fact bet 5 cigars per game in a 7 game series.The series went 7 games ending 4-3 Nationals.You won 20 and I won 15...…..simple math says I owe you 5 sticks.Now had you not been demanding 20 the moment you sent me your snailer I would venture to guess you'd have ended up with at least 10...…...I never send just 5 and haven't since I was a noob.

Now like I said I will entertain this one last time.I am completely certain this will not make sense to you.However just remember this...…..it makes perfect sense to everyone else.

Now just for the sake of posterity say today you are having a lucid moment and you realize this does make sense.You send those 20 premiums to the troops via Operation From The Heart.……….Schmitty will inform me when they arrive,however I will not hold my breath.

OPFTH
29456 Groesbeck Hwy
Roseville,Mi 48066

Whistlebritches wrote:


Whistlebritches
6 years ago
For reference I stated she made an attempt to extort cigars from me.

Her reply

I made an attempt?? No, you lost a bet. You are still interested in proving a point to be right 😆 If you can explain to me how in the world you only owe me 5 cigars from a SERIES bet (not single game), and it makes sense to me.... Not only will I admit you are right, I will send YOU 20 premiums!!

Cigarlady7 wrote:



My reply to this is above
Whistlebritches
6 years ago
Here's the original post for the bet


Kombat,

Let's test this: I will take Nationals , starting tomorrow night; playing Astros. When you lose and send your end, I will let you know if they are premium. 🤣👍 5er per game.

S1

Yes?

Cigarlady7 wrote:

Whistlebritches
6 years ago
I jumped in here with this reply when Kombat no showed


Not sure bout the Dink...….But I'll take that bet.

LMK

Whistlebritches wrote:


Whistlebritches
6 years ago
Her reply


Yep. You're on.

Cigarlady7 wrote:


Whistlebritches
6 years ago
I personally don't think she's had a lucid moment since she was 6 years old...…..but we shall see.
USNGunner
6 years ago
“insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.”

Cigarlady7
6 years ago
Yes Gunner, insanity is like me bombing you when those could have gone to troops. Then you have the nerve to speak against my trade ethics when we have never traded, I have only sent you free smokes. Mistake on my end.

Whistle, I send to Cigars for Warriors monthly. My organization, Value for Veterans, is a donation center for them. Only donation center in Mobile, matter of fact. But Cigars are not the only thing we do for troops. Sending cigars to OPFTH would be a very easy thing to do, but I still can't make sense of how you didn't understand the bet.. You stated that there was nothing mentioned about how many cigars were wagered? It's simple math. 5 premium cigars per game won. Nats took title. If Astros had won, I was ready to send 20 out, per my own rules...

If a SERIES is 7 games, you can assume automatically, total for winning team will be subtracted from 35. I lost 3 games, which would bring my total to 20. You won 3. I have never heard of it being to where I send you 15 and you send me 20.

I wager every week in various sports both on and offline, and I know games usually comes with a "winner takes all approach". It is in the very first post that it is 5 per game, and even regurgitated again in post 5. I assumed you understood our bet when entering, I even tried to pm you before all this went down and rectify the situation with 'meeting in the middle' since you clearly misunderstood and I clearly should have made an attempt to make sure you did understand the rules. You went on to be bull-headed and unreasonable. Even though it was right in your face... 5 per game. Like I said I tried to meet you in the middle at 10 because you didn't know what PER GAME meant from the beginning.

Matter of fact, I did make a bet on game 4 of the series, I believe and it alone was a 5er, so wtf what make you think someone would wait on 5 cigars from an entire series?? I can't get logic past that. Then the fact that you admitted you were thinking of sending 10 proves that you knew your logic was off and that you owed more than what was sent.

The only solution you have come up with is send to troops, which I do anyways. I personally would like to see something along the lines of what we originally started. Either you could send me the other 15 you owe me (-20), and I send you 15 for the three you won.. (which is backwards to begin with, but I would do it to even the board) or send the other 5 from the 10 I offered to meet you in the middle at.

As for OPFTH, I'm willing to send a donation anytime, for sure... but not for the sake of this wager. Separate the two. Now if you want to finish the bet, and take the cigars I send to you, then regift them, I'm fine with that completely. Once you get them, they become yours and I could care less.
CelticBomber
6 years ago
5 cigars per GAME.

CL7 Team 1

Whistle Team 2

Game 1 - Team 1 wins CL7 up 5 cigars

Game 2 - Team 2 win's Whislte wins 5 I.E. Your EVEN

Game 3 - Team 1 wins - Cl7 up 5 cigars

Game 4 - Team 2 wins Whistle wins 5 EVEN again

Game 5 - Team1 wins Cl7 up 5 cigars

Game 6 - Team 2 wins - Whislte win's EVEN AGAIN

Game 7 - Team 1 wins - CL7 owed 5 cigars

How does this not compute?

or

CL7 won 4 games = 20 Cigars

Whistle won 3 games = 15 cigars

20 - 15 = 5

](*,)
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Scheet even the zombie does the math right.
USNGunner
6 years ago

Yes Gunner, insanity is like me bombing you when those could have gone to troops. Then you have the nerve to speak against my trade ethics when we have never traded, I have only sent you free smokes. Mistake on my end.

Cigarlady7 wrote:



I will make it a point to forward them in my next shipment. No worries.

No we haven't actually did a "trade". But the noob pib I sent you were not noob cigars, a short shipment or standard fiver either. So don't go acting all victimized and put out. Looking back, I reckon that was a mistake on my end.

Bee, I'm not here for free smokes. I could care less about freebies. I've got plenty, and I know their lineage.

But that wasn't what I was commenting on. My comment had more to do with how you conduct yourself. I don't think you have done yourself any favors with your forum persona here. And not just in this instance. You're all over the place depending on day and time. Say one thing one day, then do another the next. "I do love my troops", then get in a gigantic pissing contest with several of them over some stupid ass cigars.

One thing the folks around here aren't is "cheap" or "stingy". I damn sure don't see the guys you're calling out welshing on a bet over a few cigars.

I read the posts like everybody else did and came to the same conclusion they did. That's what was spelled out.

It is what it is, and it ain't what it ain't.
izonfire
6 years ago

5 cigars per GAME.

CL7 Team 1

Whistle Team 2

Game 1 - Team 1 wins CL7 up 5 cigars

Game 2 - Team 2 win's Whislte wins 5 I.E. Your EVEN

Game 3 - Team 1 wins - Cl7 up 5 cigars

Game 4 - Team 2 wins Whistle wins 5 EVEN again

Game 5 - Team1 wins Cl7 up 5 cigars

Game 6 - Team 2 wins - Whislte win's EVEN AGAIN

Game 7 - Team 1 wins - CL7 owed 5 cigars

How does this not compute?

or

CL7 won 4 games = 20 Cigars

Whistle won 3 games = 15 cigars

20 - 15 = 5

](*,)

CelticBomber wrote:


Thanks for the mathsplanation.
Nerd
Cigarlady7
6 years ago
RMAN4443
6 years ago

Yes Gunner, insanity is like me bombing you when those could have gone to troops. Then you have the nerve to speak against my trade ethics when we have never traded, I have only sent you free smokes. Mistake on my end.

Whistle, I send to Cigars for Warriors monthly. My organization, Value for Veterans, is a donation center for them. Only donation center in Mobile, matter of fact. But Cigars are not the only thing we do for troops. Sending cigars to OPFTH would be a very easy thing to do, but I still can't make sense of how you didn't understand the bet.. You stated that there was nothing mentioned about how many cigars were wagered? It's simple math. 5 premium cigars per game won. Nats took title. If Astros had won, I was ready to send 20 out, per my own rules...

If a SERIES is 7 games, you can assume automatically, total for winning team will be subtracted from 35. I lost 3 games, which would bring my total to 20. You won 3. I have never heard of it being to where I send you 15 and you send me 20.

I wager every week in various sports both on and offline, and I know games usually comes with a "winner takes all approach". It is in the very first post that it is 5 per game, and even regurgitated again in post 5. I assumed you understood our bet when entering, I even tried to pm you before all this went down and rectify the situation with 'meeting in the middle' since you clearly misunderstood and I clearly should have made an attempt to make sure you did understand the rules. You went on to be bull-headed and unreasonable. Even though it was right in your face... 5 per game. Like I said I tried to meet you in the middle at 10 because you didn't know what PER GAME meant from the beginning.

Matter of fact, I did make a bet on game 4 of the series, I believe and it alone was a 5er, so wtf what make you think someone would wait on 5 cigars from an entire series?? I can't get logic past that. Then the fact that you admitted you were thinking of sending 10 proves that you knew your logic was off and that you owed more than what was sent.

The only solution you have come up with is send to troops, which I do anyways. I personally would like to see something along the lines of what we originally started. Either you could send me the other 15 you owe me (-20), and I send you 15 for the three you won.. (which is backwards to begin with, but I would do it to even the board) or send the other 5 from the 10 I offered to meet you in the middle at.

As for OPFTH, I'm willing to send a donation anytime, for sure... but not for the sake of this wager. Separate the two. Now if you want to finish the bet, and take the cigars I send to you, then regift them, I'm fine with that completely. Once you get them, they become yours and I could care less.

Cigarlady7 wrote:



So, in your world "5 per game", doesn't really mean 5 per game????:-k

I'm pretty sure Ron was saying that had you STFU he would have sent the "5" plus some hitchhikers, as per his usual lack of counting abilities(just search out his end of most of the trades he's been involved in)....[-(

As for counting abilities, your the only trader here who actually counts to 5 on a regular basis....as Stinger stated, you regularly "letter of the law" your 5vers.....not that there's anything wrong with that...🙄
Palama
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6 years ago

Yes Gunner, insanity is like me bombing you when those could have gone to troops. Then you have the nerve to speak against my trade ethics when we have never traded, I have only sent you free smokes. Mistake on my end.

Whistle, I send to Cigars for Warriors monthly. My organization, Value for Veterans, is a donation center for them. Only donation center in Mobile, matter of fact. But Cigars are not the only thing we do for troops. Sending cigars to OPFTH would be a very easy thing to do, but I still can't make sense of how you didn't understand the bet.. You stated that there was nothing mentioned about how many cigars were wagered? It's simple math. 5 premium cigars per game won. Nats took title. If Astros had won, I was ready to send 20 out, per my own rules...

If a SERIES is 7 games, you can assume automatically, total for winning team will be subtracted from 35. I lost 3 games, which would bring my total to 20. You won 3. I have never heard of it being to where I send you 15 and you send me 20.

I wager every week in various sports both on and offline, and I know games usually comes with a "winner takes all approach". It is in the very first post that it is 5 per game, and even regurgitated again in post 5. I assumed you understood our bet when entering, I even tried to pm you before all this went down and rectify the situation with 'meeting in the middle' since you clearly misunderstood and I clearly should have made an attempt to make sure you did understand the rules. You went on to be bull-headed and unreasonable. Even though it was right in your face... 5 per game. Like I said I tried to meet you in the middle at 10 because you didn't know what PER GAME meant from the beginning.

Matter of fact, I did make a bet on game 4 of the series, I believe and it alone was a 5er, so wtf what make you think someone would wait on 5 cigars from an entire series?? I can't get logic past that. Then the fact that you admitted you were thinking of sending 10 proves that you knew your logic was off and that you owed more than what was sent.

The only solution you have come up with is send to troops, which I do anyways. I personally would like to see something along the lines of what we originally started. Either you could send me the other 15 you owe me (-20), and I send you 15 for the three you won.. (which is backwards to begin with, but I would do it to even the board) or send the other 5 from the 10 I offered to meet you in the middle at.

As for OPFTH, I'm willing to send a donation anytime, for sure... but not for the sake of this wager. Separate the two. Now if you want to finish the bet, and take the cigars I send to you, then regift them, I'm fine with that completely. Once you get them, they become yours and I could care less.

Cigarlady7 wrote:



Hey CL7, does your organization have a website so members of this forum can learn about it and donate?
RMAN4443
6 years ago
As for your "organization" Value For Veterans, I've been searching for them, and as a matter of fact, cannot find it listed anywhere where I have searched. All the searches I've done have come up negative, no listings.

https://greatnonprofits.org/city/mobile/AL/search:value%20for%20veterans 

Maybe you could post a website, phone number, newsletter, bbb listing, address to send donations, charity watch listing....anything??? Or is this just another scam for you to get free cigars?
RMAN4443
6 years ago

Hey CL7, does your organization have a website so members of this forum can learn about it and donate?

Palama wrote:


Hmmmm, great minds think alike....
Palama
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6 years ago

Hmmmm, great minds think alike....

RMAN4443 wrote:



Haha, so you wanted to donate too huh? :-"
CelticBomber
6 years ago

Thanks for the mathsplanation.
Nerd

izonfire wrote:




That's Mr Zombie Nerd to the likes of you. Good day sir. I said GOOD DAY!
clintCigar
6 years ago
Why would you bet cigars per game if the winner is going to get 20 cigars regardless? In that case you would just bet 20 cigars for whomever wins. You have to win 4 games to win the world series. Betting cigars per game is more indicative to the competition at hand. So for instance if one team sweeps the other and beats them 4 games straight then the winner would get 20 cigars. (Assuming 5 cigars per game). In this scenario the series was competitive and went the full 7 games so winner gets 5. Sound logic.
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