MACS
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6 years ago
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6155230391001#sp=show-clips 

To enforcing "stay at home" orders. This is my boss. He was speaking to our county board of supervisors who voted to open sh*t up in our county today.

America... f--- yeah.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Ya know how I feel about some of the shutdown. Draconian. I wish the government would or could back off and people would act responsibly and do the right things. Neither will happen though because I’m shocked at folks inability to get their minds around this critter. I honestly gave the common joe too much credit.

The scariest part to me is some that don’t understand it think they do. I did what I rarely do. I went in Facebook yesterday to see what folks are saying. I guess the hospitals are lying, the counts are inflated and it’s a plot by some to destroy merica. Yea that’s logical lol.

A while back I mentioned that this wasn’t the first time something like this shut down had happened. At a local level health shutdowns like this (healthy and sick alike not just a sick quarantine) have happened more frequently than most are aware. The scale is the only difference to me.

Someone argued it had never happened before and I chose not to argue. I’d studied enough of them to know better but it didn’t matter. It turns out I was wrong. Not about it happening. It happened on a larger scale than I had realized.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-saw-the-deadly-1918-spanish-flu-epidemic-coming-shutting-down-the-city-saved/article_52e5e46d-1f30-5f31-a706-786785692bb5.html 

Interesting article that gives insight to the goal. Been reading a lot about Seattle’s efforts this time that may draw parallels.

My little towns restaurants and pubs have opened. The owners have always been dubious (Small town, well known) and will do little to protect the public. My daughter was invited to go to a sleepover last night. Stupid.

I want the government out of it too. But then it becomes up to you to protect yourselves and others if you are a decent person. Unfortunately you can’t control others and you don’t have total control on how they impact you. Remember some don’t believe this is happening or don’t fully understand it and they do impact you. The best you can do is try to mitigate it and pay attention to who is who.

And yes we need to open.

teedubbya
6 years ago
By the way my town still allows smoking in bars and restaurants. It’s great on sundays if you want to watch the nfl with a cigar.
teedubbya
6 years ago
This is interesting too. I’m sure some consider history.com politically left or right or whatever. I just found it interesting.

https://history.com/news/spanish-flu-pandemic-response-cities 
BuckyB93
6 years ago
No matter if things open up or not, expect round 2 of safety implementations this coming fall. It it will start where the "new normal" left off and expand further and faster. The precedent has already been set.
Speyside
6 years ago
Great idea, a few more dumb MF will die. Never a bad thing.
RobertHively
6 years ago

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6155230391001#sp=show-clips

To enforcing "stay at home" orders. This is my boss. He was speaking to our county board of supervisors who voted to open sh*t up in our county today.

America... f--- yeah.

MACS wrote:



I am starting to change my mind about "law enforcement". I really can't say they're all bad, just most of the ones I've seen are bad. Lol!

And I'll never be convinced that the para-military state trooper bureaucrats are anything more than the republican guard for the state. That's what they are.

BUT, some of these elected Sheriffs are standing strong, and I commend them for doing so.
delta1
6 years ago
good cops bad cops...just like human beings

vetting process and training can't change that
Mr. Jones
6 years ago
Lebanon PA mayor breaking stay at home orders from
"Dictator governor TOM WOLF"...

PROLLY A STORY SOMEWHERE..GOOGLE IT
AJH280
6 years ago
The mayor is probably comfortable doing that because the Lebanon County District Attorney has publicly stated that she will not be prosecuting violations of the governor's orders. The only conditions are that people must comply with the rules regarding occupancy limits, cleaning procedures, PPE, etc.
The DA's decision is viewed by many as significant, because it means she won't prosecute cases brought by the state police, who'd likely be the agency most strictly enforcing the governor's orders.
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Our sheriff here is a big union guy, but he actually came out refusing to enforce Kate 💩 orders.
tailgater
6 years ago

Ya know how I feel about some of the shutdown. Draconian. I wish the government would or could back off and people would act responsibly and do the right things. Neither will happen though because I’m shocked at folks inability to get their minds around this critter. I honestly gave the common joe too much credit.

The scariest part to me is some that don’t understand it think they do. I did what I rarely do. I went in Facebook yesterday to see what folks are saying. I guess the hospitals are lying, the counts are inflated and it’s a plot by some to destroy merica. Yea that’s logical lol.

A while back I mentioned that this wasn’t the first time something like this shut down had happened. At a local level health shutdowns like this (healthy and sick alike not just a sick quarantine) have happened more frequently than most are aware. The scale is the only difference to me.

Someone argued it had never happened before and I chose not to argue. I’d studied enough of them to know better but it didn’t matter. It turns out I was wrong. Not about it happening. It happened on a larger scale than I had realized.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/st-louis-saw-the-deadly-1918-spanish-flu-epidemic-coming-shutting-down-the-city-saved/article_52e5e46d-1f30-5f31-a706-786785692bb5.html 

Interesting article that gives insight to the goal. Been reading a lot about Seattle’s efforts this time that may draw parallels.

My little towns restaurants and pubs have opened. The owners have always been dubious (Small town, well known) and will do little to protect the public. My daughter was invited to go to a sleepover last night. Stupid.

I want the government out of it too. But then it becomes up to you to protect yourselves and others if you are a decent person. Unfortunately you can’t control others and you don’t have total control on how they impact you. Remember some don’t believe this is happening or don’t fully understand it and they do impact you. The best you can do is try to mitigate it and pay attention to who is who.

And yes we need to open.

teedubbya wrote:




If we treated the numbers in context, rather than from the fear tactic being used by government and media, we'd learn that we need to do MORE to protect the elderly instead of this over reach killing us slowly.
I went to the official numbers from my state. Massachusetts has a bunch of deaths. Worst than most. So I read the numbers. From the Mass.gov website. And I learned that if you're under 30 the chances of dying from this are statistically zero.
Now, I'm no math expert, but that's pretty low.
Hell, the 50 to 59 demographics are 0.017% likely to die from it.
That's independent from pre-existing conditions.

The math isn't scary.
The individual numbers are.
Because they're not in context.
Yet they're the reason we've closed everything up tight.

It's pathetic.


MACS
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6 years ago
Freedom. Tell me what you know... recommend what we should and should not do... and let me be free to decide for myself.
teedubbya
6 years ago
Not sure what that has to do with my post or why it was quoted.

I’m also not going to argue the numbers or the proper way to calculate or approach them.

It is what it is. Take care of you and yours.
MACS
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6 years ago
My post wasn't dircted at you, personally, Tee.

I was saying what I thought should have been done. Inform the public, make recommendations, and let people be free to choose what to do for themselves.
Speyside
6 years ago
Tail, is that .0017% relative to 50-59 demographic for the entire state or those who have been infected with COVID19?
BuckyB93
6 years ago

If we treated the numbers in context, rather than from the fear tactic being used by government and media, we'd learn that we need to do MORE to protect the elderly instead of this over reach killing us slowly.
I went to the official numbers from my state. Massachusetts has a bunch of deaths. Worst than most. So I read the numbers. From the Mass.gov website. And I learned that if you're under 30 the chances of dying from this are statistically zero.
Now, I'm no math expert, but that's pretty low.
Hell, the 50 to 59 demographics are 0.017% likely to die from it.
That's independent from pre-existing conditions.

The math isn't scary.
The individual numbers are.
Because they're not in context.
Yet they're the reason we've closed everything up tight.

It's pathetic.


tailgater wrote:




Sigh... another independent thinker that needs to be dealt with.
frankj1
6 years ago
I honestly don't know for sure, but I have to wonder just how bad the deaths would be everywhere, not just MA, if way less of us had never stayed inside.

I read opinions and stories of low risk due to low percentage of tested positives and deaths wondering if these stories actually are telling us the restrictions do work and do not support unleashing the population.

so many of the elderly who died never would have been exposed if not for the second and third shift efforts of the low paid workers going from facility to facility doing work no American born kids will do, understandably in an effort to put food on the table. A true conundrum for brave, hard working yet disrespected workers...so yeah, younger folks likely won't die, but they may be killing older and even compromised young people all the time simply by working and walking among us.

And of those younger people who have died, how many also have connections to elder care? Not a set up.I really haven't read one word about younger death stats.

rfenst
6 years ago

Freedom. Tell me what you know... recommend what we should and should not do... and let me be free to decide for myself.

MACS wrote:


I agree as long as your brand of freedom does not others.
MACS
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6 years ago

I agree as long as your brand of freedom does not others.

rfenst wrote:



If you are afraid, lock yourself in.
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