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victor809
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6 years ago

...in the white house. Wonderful. Along with birtherism, hydroxychroloquine, bleach injections and the idea that he's competent, our president also apparently believes a new conspiracy theory:

Tweeted today by bunker baby:

Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
Buffalo protester shoved by Police could be an ANTIFA provocateur. 75 year old Martin Gugino was pushed away after appearing to scan police communications in order to black out the equipment. @OANN I watched, he fell harder than was pushed. Was aiming scanner. Could be a set up?

7:34 AM - Jun 9, 2020

orangebitch wrote:

now I'm assuming everyone saw the video of the old man getting shoved by the cops. If you've been living under a rock, here it is:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/2-buffalo-officers-charged-with-assault-after-video-showed-police-shoving-75-year-old-man-1.5601682

The idea that our president would tweet such absolute garbage about that....

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DrafterX
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6 years ago

I saw a man refusing to comply and confronting pollice officers... what did you see..?? 😕

victor809
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6 years ago

I saw a man refusing to comply and confronting pollice officers... what did you see..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

so refusing to comply gets one put in serious condition?

DrafterX
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6 years ago

only if you refuse to comply... 😟

victor809
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6 years ago

only if you refuse to comply... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

You keep playing with yourself to the thoughts of an authoritarian state.

rfenst
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6 years ago

I saw a man refusing to comply and confronting pollice officers... what did you see..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

I don't think the cop did anything wrong in the photo link Victor posted above. The question will be whether excessive force was used. That is, less of a push or some other action. I think the cops push was not excessive. And, there was a terribly unfortunate consequence.

(I haven't studied other moving pictures enough yet.)

JadeRose
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6 years ago

I saw a man refusing to comply and confronting pollice officers... what did you see..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

wow.......just

wow

victor809
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6 years ago

rfenst wrote:

He had enough cops around him there was little need to shove the old man like that. No real pressing threat to need to create space.

Then as they kept marching by, one cop started to go over and check how the old man laying on the ground (eventually in a pool of blood, but I don't know the timing) and the other pulls him back away so they all march past him.

And none of this addresses the idea that the president of the united states is now trying to push a conspiracy theory that the old man was trying to scan their radios to blackout police communications, and is part of "antifa".... (because antifa has membership cards)

ZRX1200
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6 years ago

When riot police are marching in formation they tend not to stop when clearing an area.

I don’t condone (personally) pushing the guy over, when a lawful order to disperse is given, a decision to move towards them is not advice I’d give.

I’m so SHOCKED that you Victor being the cold, thoughtful guy you are who only cares about facts wouldn’t care that he’s 75.

Also you’re obsession is showing

DrafterX
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6 years ago

#10

the police officer's arm was fully extended when he made contact with the non-complier... There was little force there... the non-complier is a fine actor... 😟

victor809
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6 years ago

#11

the police officer's arm was fully extended when he made contact with the non-complier... There was little force there... the non-complier is a fine actor... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

How much force do you think it takes to knock a 75 year old backwards?

and again, while fellating authoritarianism, you are missing the point.

The president is posting dumb conspiracy theories about a protester who was put in the hospital by the police.

He's claiming the guy "fell harder than a push" and is part of ANTIFA, and was trying to scan the police radios.

Our president is an idiot, and it's clear every day from his tweets. And this doesn't bother you?

DrafterX
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6 years ago

#12

yes, his tweet's bother me... as well as people setting themselves up to be victims... 😟

tonygraz
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6 years ago

#13

Sounds like Drafter bought the tweet.

victor809
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6 years ago

#14

Sounds like Drafter bought the tweet.

tonygraz wrote:

Drafter buys anything the orange menace sells.
He's a battered woman, convinced this time he really will stop drinking.

DrafterX
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6 years ago

#15

the 75 yr old non-complier accomplished what he wanted... he gave you guys a reason to bash the police and your President.... good for him I guess... hell, he'll prolly even get a nice check out of it... 😟

Edited by user 6 years ago | Reason: Not specified

victor809
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6 years ago

#16

DrafterX wrote:

That was occurring before bunker baby started tweeting about it this am.

He literally could have said nothing.

but he chose to push dumb conspiracy theories.