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6 years ago
Convicted for obstruction of justice, making false statements and witness tampering.
Sentenced to 40 months in prison.
Should his sentence have been commuted?
ZRX1200
6 years ago
He’s a douche bag, and he got the extra nice treatment for being associated with Trump.

That FBI raid of his home and the leak to CNN, that’s exactly what agencies should not be taking part in. Proves someone’s guilt the right way.
delta1
6 years ago
loyal douche bag who had his boss up against the wall, dropping hints about singing if he did any prison time...

the Friday night of the weekend before Stone was to report to prison...

boss Trump used his special powers to get Stone off the hook in order to keep him quiet about his own criminal behavior


coincidence?
Gene363
6 years ago

He’s a douche bag, and he got the extra nice treatment for being associated with Trump.

That FBI raid of his home and the leak to CNN, that’s exactly what agencies should not be taking part in. Proves someone’s guilt the right way.

ZRX1200 wrote:



True, even with out quotes around the, "extra nice" parts.

Regardless of Stone, if they will do it for you, they will do it to you.
Speyside
6 years ago
100% the Presidents right to do, so yes I agree. Stone's guilt or innocence is immaterial.
Whistlebritches
6 years ago



boss Trump used his special powers to get Stone off the hook in order to keep him quiet about his own criminal behavior


coincidence?

delta1 wrote:




So you're saying this special power has never been used by any other President.

I really don't know why I keep coming here,it's full of vile, hatred,closed minded socialist and some of the dumbest political statements on the planet and personally I am sick of it.


Later tators
tonygraz
6 years ago
Maybe it's a place that fits you well. In a while vile.
Brewha
6 years ago
It saddens me to see the state of our country. Stone is plainly a career criminal, but since the President is above the law so are his criminal friends.

The real kick in the pills is how Trump cult members will hail this as justice....
ZRX1200
6 years ago
Justice? No.

Within his rights as POTUS? Yeah.

Do I like it? Doesn’t make a difference.

You think maybe the silent majority is disappointed with the behavior of the FBI and don’t take the 5 counts of “lying to Congress” that serious when they’ve lied so much. And just maybe the fruit of the poison tree doesn’t seemed to have mattered much with a sham investigation.

But hey I don’t wanna be a cult member.
Abrignac
6 years ago
Every President is granted the ability to pardon. There have been some very controversial pardons from Presidents of both parties.
Brewha
6 years ago

Justice? No.

Within his rights as POTUS? Yeah.

Do I like it? Doesn’t make a difference.

You think maybe the silent majority is disappointed with the behavior of the FBI and don’t take the 5 counts of “lying to Congress” that serious when they’ve lied so much. And just maybe the fruit of the poison tree doesn’t seemed to have mattered much with a sham investigation.

But hey I don’t wanna be a cult member.

ZRX1200 wrote:


Yes, well I don’t like it.

And I think the FBI was doing their job. Those under investigation have accused them of willfully abusing their authority as federal agents. But we are Americans. And we believe anything.

I guess when the Right sold people on the idea that NASA and NOAA was faking climate data for political reasons I should have given up.



I’m not sure why Stone pizzes me off. Could be the Nixon tattoo. Could be him smiling for the camera had flashing peace signs cause he knows he if above the law.
Or maybe it’s cause he is a deek.

But prolly it’s cause he is a portrait of American criminals who get away with it time and time again and laugh about it.
Brewha
6 years ago

Every President is granted the ability to pardon. There have been some very controversial pardons from Presidents of both parties.

Abrignac wrote:


Are you floating the idea that two wrongs make a right?
ZRX1200
6 years ago
I think he’s saying our collective energies are better spent arguing the power granted not the decisions made to use it.
Brewha
6 years ago

I think he’s saying our collective energies are better spent arguing the power granted not the decisions made to use it.

ZRX1200 wrote:


It’s a fair point.

But I would float the idea that his use of the power was an abuse of the power.
And that if others abused it in the past that has little bearing - other than to say “abuse happens all the time”. Which does not make it OK.
Abrignac
6 years ago

Are you floating the idea that two wrongs make a right?

Brewha wrote:



Absolutely not. Did I even suggest that? Just pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. Btw, the tug you feel in your jaw is the hook that held the bait.
ZRX1200
6 years ago

It’s a fair point.

But I would float the idea that his use of the power was an abuse of the power.
And that if others abused it in the past that has little bearing - other than to say “abuse happens all the time”. Which does not make it OK.

Brewha wrote:




And yet you called people who didn’t see your way as cult members.

When you play the same game of not calling out the use of that granted power on your team then you’re no different so I guess it just hit me wrong to see that card played.

*shrug*

Anthony did you use barbless or treble? Do we eat him or put him back?
Brewha
6 years ago

Absolutely not. Did I even suggest that? Just pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. Btw, the tug you feel in your jaw is the hook that held the bait.

Abrignac wrote:


Right, you did not say that.

I’m saying when someone does something wrong, pointing out that other also have is...well...trying to minimize it.

His abuse of power may not be unique. But abuse it is never the less.
The man has little respect for the rule of law. And lies as easy as breathing.
Brewha
6 years ago

And yet you called people who didn’t see your way as cult members.

When you play the same game of not calling out the use of that granted power on your team then you’re no different so I guess it just hit me wrong to see that card played.

*shrug*

Anthony did you use barbless or treble? Do we eat him or put him back?

ZRX1200 wrote:


Many people don’t see it my way - does not make them cult members.

You know exactly what I meant. We have lots of cray cray folks that see no faults in the POTUS. Or at least all is forgivable because he is doing “such a great job, a 10!”.

But this one with Stone is egregious. Hell even Romney is sounding off. And it is a poor defense of him to say “look over there, someone else did bad too”.

So do you feel it was an abuse of power, or are you going with “but Hillary...”?
Abrignac
6 years ago

And yet you called people who didn’t see your way as cult members.

When you play the same game of not calling out the use of that granted power on your team then you’re no different so I guess it just hit me wrong to see that card played.

*shrug*

Anthony did you use barbless or treble? Do we eat him or put him back?

ZRX1200 wrote:



Put whatever of his you desire into your mouth. But, hurry so I can toss him back. He need not flop around on the deck anymore than absolutely necessary.
Abrignac
6 years ago

Right, you did not say that.

I’m saying when someone does something wrong, pointing out that other also have is...well...trying to minimize it.

His abuse of power may not be unique. But abuse it is never the less.
The man has little respect for the rule of law. And lies as easy as breathing.

Brewha wrote:



You’ll notice that I didn’t disagree with your assessment of him. But, it can also be said that by pointing out character flows in someone who’s politics you disagree with while being silent about the ones with whom you agree with is at best is hypocritical.
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