tailgater
5 years ago
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/us/breonna-taylor-louisville-settlement/index.html 

The more I see on this story, the more disgusted I am with how a system could allow a no-knock warrant to the potential girlfriends residence during a drug investigation.


opelmanta1900
5 years ago
this happened in Texas as well... but the victims were white...

Cops lied about a confidential informant who never existed buying heroin from a residence... that secured the warrant, cops kicked in the door and shot a couple to death...

Happens more frequently than most people know...
Buckwheat
5 years ago
Yeah, it's pretty bad. No amount of $ can replace a life.

I live in Louisville and I just hope that they change things in our police department (that's been chit for a while). 🐴

No knock warrants should be banded nationwide IMO. I think bad outweighs the good on them. I'm surprised that more police officers aren't shot during these. 🌫
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
from my understanding, the big thing with no knocks is trying to avoid drug flushing... there's gotta be something that can be done other than kicking people's doors down at 3am...
ZRX1200
5 years ago
^ your favorite politician introduced a bill against no knock warrants but the “good guys” didn’t want the Breonna Taylor Bill. He’s been against no-knocks for a long time....
rfenst
5 years ago

from my understanding, the big thing with no knocks is trying to avoid drug flushing... there's gotta be something that can be done other than kicking people's doors down at 3am...

opelmanta1900 wrote:


Officer safety is also be an important factor in obtaining no-knock warrants.
victor809
5 years ago
The worst part is the taxpayers have to pay it. Not the police department. Zero actual repercussions to the police for poor decision making.
Buckwheat
5 years ago

from my understanding, the big thing with no knocks is trying to avoid drug flushing... there's gotta be something that can be done other than kicking people's doors down at 3am...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Maybe, just maybe we should stop the stupid and pointless "War on Drugs". America has some of the strictest drug laws while also having some of the highest rates of drug addiction. Something doesn't add up there. 🌫
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
5 years ago
^ this.

Sadly too much money in the the war on drugs game.
opelmanta1900
5 years ago

Officer safety is also be an important factor in obtaining no-knock warrants.

rfenst wrote:


Why is it less safe to knock, announce yourself as police, then kick the door in? That makes zero sense to me...

If I'm running a drug house and someone kicks the door in, ima open fire... if i know for fact it's cops kicking the door in, there's a slight chance I don't open fire because they would be the only people I'd expect to kick my door in and not murder me... i would assume anyone else who isn't the police is fixing to murder me right out the gate...
DrafterX
5 years ago
depends on the drug.... 😟
victor809
5 years ago

Why is it less safe to knock, announce yourself as police, then kick the door in? That makes zero sense to me...

If I'm running a drug house and someone kicks the door in, ima open fire... if i know for fact it's cops kicking the door in, there's a slight chance I don't open fire because they would be the only people I'd expect to kick my door in and not murder me... i would assume anyone else who isn't the police is fixing to murder me right out the gate...

opelmanta1900 wrote:




and if what 98.2% of the "law abiding" (in their minds at least) citizens here say is true, they'd likely be opening fire on someone kicking the door in at 3am as well.
victor809
5 years ago
honestly... "no knock" entrances only sound safe if no one inside has any guns.
If you have the right house, they're gonna shoot because someone kicked down their door and they're criminals.
If you have the wrong house, and they have guns, they're gonna shoot because they have no reason to think the people kicking down their door are anything other than criminals.
gummy jones
5 years ago

The worst part is the taxpayers have to pay it. Not the police department. Zero actual repercussions to the police for poor decision making.

victor809 wrote:



bingo
Buckwheat
5 years ago

The worst part is the taxpayers have to pay it. Not the police department. Zero actual repercussions to the police for poor decision making.

victor809 wrote:



The "Taxpayer" in this case is me! [ram27bat]
RayR
5 years ago

The worst part is the taxpayers have to pay it. Not the police department. Zero actual repercussions to the police for poor decision making.

victor809 wrote:



The taxpayers always pay the bill for stupid and evil government policies. These policies and Gestapo-like tactics started way above the local police departments. The endless drug war has been highly profitable for bureaucrats, lobbyists and their cronies in D.C. and the militarizing of local police departments, authorizing “no‐​knock” SWAT raids and civil asset forfeiture have sure had their corrupting influence.
victor809
5 years ago
^ that's about the only smart thing I've seen ray post.
opelmanta1900
5 years ago
He was apparently saving up all his stupid for this gem:

This is all part of Bernie Sanders population control plan to cure climate change plan, Biden is full onboard with Bernie and his communist manifesto now in an attempt to win the support of Bernie's extreme far lefty proles. A vote for Biden is a vote for forced sterilization and eugenics.

RayR wrote:


victor809
5 years ago
Wow... that's.... dumb
RayR
5 years ago

^ that's about the only smart thing I've seen ray post.

victor809 wrote:



I don't know what to say Victor...any compliment from you causes me to pause and reflect.
It almost seems unnatural. 😇
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