Plowboy221
5 years ago
As most of you know I drink a lot of cheap whiskey, goal is to try most of the different labels that I can..... I’ve noticed that quite a few have changed the label up and are no longer straight whiskey (ten high, Kentucky Tavern).... they say bourbon whiskey with “natural flavors”. The Kentucky Tavern even says Special Reserve on it now. Did something happen with these brand and others I didn’t hear about?

Palama
5 years ago

As most of you know I drink a lot of cheap whiskey, goal is to try most of the different labels that I can..... I’ve noticed that quite a few have changed the label up and are no longer straight whiskey (ten high, Kentucky Tavern).... they say bourbon whiskey with “natural flavors”. The Kentucky Tavern even says Special Reserve on it now. Did something happen with these brand and others I didn’t hear about?

Plowboy221 wrote:



Dunno what happened to the brands you mentioned and I'm sure a more knowledgable person will chime in but iirc, "straight whiskey" means the liquor has been aged for at least 2 years in charred oak barrels, is no less than 80 proof and hasn't been colored (tinted). But, I know there's a LOT more detail to that.

I have no clue what "natural flavors" means but curious to find out.
Plowboy221
5 years ago
Right, like I said just recently noticed the change in the label and it doesn’t taste anywhere near the same. Other people I one have noticed the change as well, but no real answer. I’m assuming they are cutting down on aging time and pushing it out the door.
frankj1
5 years ago
might explain why they can no longer legally call them bourbons?
tonygraz
5 years ago
Walker's Ten High was the worst bourbon out there. Many years ago it was aged 4 years and it sucked. Now it's 3 years aged and may be even worse. Walker's Deluxe was my bourbon of choice and I think it was better than much of the crap that showed up since bourbon got popular. Heaven Hill (Quality House) bourbon was my drink of choice when I wasn't in great financial shape. It too was 4 years old back then and charcoal filtered - now it's 3 years old and unfiltered. I usually have a bottle around for mixed drinks.
bgz
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5 years ago
This one isn't bad:

https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/evan-williams-bottled-in-bond 

Can find it at total wine. Whiskey guy there told me to give it a go, so I did.
gummy jones
5 years ago
Evan William's bottled in bond, old overholt bonded rye, rittenhouse bonded rye and old grandad bonded are pretty good for the money imo
tonygraz
5 years ago

This one isn't bad:

https://www.breakingbourbon.com/review/evan-williams-bottled-in-bond 

Can find it at total wine. Whiskey guy there told me to give it a go, so I did.

bgz wrote:



Interesting - also made by Heaven Hill like my low cost mixer. I've had a lot of Evan Williams, but not the bottled in Bond 100. Lately it's been Old Crow 80 for me - bought it for less than the Heaven Hill or Ten High and I think I still have another 5 unopened bottles downstairs.
bgz
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5 years ago
The lowest cost stuff in my regular rotation:

I like the Glenmorangie scotch, about $30 bucks.

Elijah Craig is like $25.

Occasionally I'll pick up a bottle of Jack at the grocery store on an impulse buy.



clickbangdead
5 years ago
Old Forrester Rye was like $24 around here, and frankly beats out a ton of higher priced offerings.
ZRX1200
5 years ago
Old Forester 100 & 100 Rye
Evan Williams BIB
Early Times BIB (if you can find it)
Ancient Age

All good cheap bourbons.
8trackdisco
5 years ago
Not sure about much. I asked by booze selling buddy why Jim Beam Black changed from Aged 8 Years to Extra Aged.

Said JB white label is aged 4. JB Black was selling so well they couldn't get it out fast enough so they were bottling it for 7-8 years. Therefore extra aged meaning more than white label, but not the full 8 years.
clickbangdead
5 years ago
Was literally just in the local Publix liquor (not know for the bestest prices) and the Old Forrester Rye is 24.99 a bottle, and they and the OF 100 proof signature (which is only 22.99) both have $2 instant coupons. Hard to beat that value right now.
shaun341
5 years ago

Old Forrester Rye was like $24 around here, and frankly beats out a ton of higher priced offerings.

clickbangdead wrote:




100% agree with that statement!!
Plowboy221
5 years ago
The only thing I like cheaper than my whiskey and I do like it cheap, is whores
Mr. Jones
5 years ago
If I drink "cheap"...

I go Canadian blended whiskey and ginger ale...

I like WINDSOR AND CANADIAN CLUB THE BEST

I ALSO LIKE BLACK VELVET OR

DONT DO REALLY CHEAP CANADIAN...THEY SUCK ROYALLY R&R Reserve sucks, Yukon jack sucks

If I do BOURBON...ALL I BUY IS EVAN WILLIAMS regular black labeled
43 % eighty six proof...

I can't even drink Ezra Brooks 45% 90 proof...its way too powerful ( with 2 day hangovers)

I don't give a S.H.I.T. WHAT ANYBODY SAYS...

BOURBON IS NOT WHISKEY...

AND BLENDED WHISKEY IS NOT BOURBON..
Mr. Jones
5 years ago
Oh yeah...CANADIAN MIST IS A GREAT MIXER TOO!!
80 proof..I think...no hangovers either ..

AND CHEAP!!! $17.99 HALF GAL. REGULAR PRICE IN PA
ON SALE $13.99-15.99 DEPENDING on the sale?
Speyside
5 years ago
gummy jones
5 years ago
I had been reading good things about the ancient age - never had it though.

I really don't drink very often so when I'm having a glass I usually drink good stuff neat but I do enjoy a bonded old fashioned.

My go to was always the Elijah Craig small batch, especially when they had the age statement on the bottle. I felt like I was stealing it at $22. Now it's $27.99 around here.
Buckwheat
5 years ago
I think you first need to clarify what you mean by "Bottom Shelf". Is it a cost thing or a quality thing? It's not always a one-to-one thing. If it's a cost thing then put out a max amount per fifth.


All that being said I think it's hard to beat most of the offerings from Old Forester and Buffalo Trace on bang for your buck. YMMV 🌫
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