frankj1
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5 years ago
was not founded by RayR this year yet has gained virtually no traction in the USA.

maybe this guy can help more than lecturing FOGs on a discount cigar forum?


https://www.fairvote.org/proportional_representation_and_the_libertarian_party 

Ray, I really don't think all you believe is wrong, but simply stating your beliefs and labeling all others as evil commie junk does nothing to get what you want. You have not come up with any way whatsoever to get it to happen.
ZRX1200
5 years ago
You sound like a commie jerk......
frankj1
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5 years ago

You sound like a commie jerk......

ZRX1200 wrote:


well, prolly cuz I am.

Happy New Year, Jamie.
You've had a challenging one, let's move on...
delta1
5 years ago
and I'm worse...a chicom jerk...😠
tonygraz
5 years ago
Long live the commie 13 !
HockeyDad
5 years ago
Is this the new Commie jerk 500 thread?
Smooth light
5 years ago
If you read Libby on the label it's good DOG food (that's libertarian)
RayR
5 years ago
You have no sense of humor Frank, it's fun calling others evil commie junk and watch them squirm because they want so much to disprove it, but can'tšŸ˜‚ Since you're out of the closet now as an admitted "commie jerk", what can I say?

So what am I to make out of this old news about "Proportional Representation"? Costa Rica is a tiny spec of a constitutional republic with maybe 5 Million people. The United States is a broken bloated bankrupt behemoth, functionally a former constitutional republic because any mention of the Constitution is only an afterthought, an illusion to make the elected crooks seem as if they care, or its words are twisted to make an excuse for another power grab. The majority of the peoples haven't even read a constitution, federal or state, which works well in the favor of the native criminal class.

I've told you before that the duopoly hates competition, they and their cronies in the media do everything they can to suppress other political parties and keep the proles ignorant. The LP gets excited when they get a candidate elected to a local seat and it's a real big deal when they get a candidate elected to a state legislature like they did this year in Wyoming.
https://www.lp.org/usa-today-not-a-republican-not-a-democrat-wyomings-marshall-burt-wins-libertarian-partys-first-statehouse-seat-since-2002/ 

So a libertarian candidate has two options, either run with the LP or run in stealth mode, call themselves a conservative and try to infiltrate the R's, the second worse party.
frankj1
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5 years ago
third option...sit in the basement and whine. Believe me no one is squirming from that tired refrain. Just wasting energy.
Do you even want to make headway?
as the song says: you can drink all the likker in Costa Rikka

if the proles are so easily recruited, how terrible is the Libertarian sales force?

On a personal note, I did enjoy you turning the tables on me in your first sentence. Well, played, sir.
You glad you stuck around?
delta1
5 years ago
first sentence of #8: it's an important admission, reveals his character...and is a good a reason to ignore him...


but he and several others here seem to think insults and name calling elevates the discussions and make themselves seem more credible...
frankj1
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5 years ago

first sentence of #8: it's an important admission, reveals his character...and is a good a reason to ignore him...


but he and several others here seem to think insults and name calling elevates the discussions and make themselves seem more credible...

delta1 wrote:


meh. I like him.
what can I say?
Smooth light
5 years ago
Like you more if you stop bidding on the cijars I like.

you would whine about, Puff the Magic Dragon living by the sea.
RayR
5 years ago

third option...sit in the basement and whine. Believe me no one is squirming from that tired refrain. Just wasting energy.
Do you even want to make headway?
as the song says: you can drink all the likker in Costa Rikka

if the proles are so easily recruited, how terrible is the Libertarian sales force?

On a personal note, I did enjoy you turning the tables on me in your first sentence. Well, played, sir.
You glad you stuck around?

frankj1 wrote:



There needs to be a sales force to sell a political theory? Is that something like Army Recruiters?:-k God forbid.
I've seen people talk about how they were Marxists, Conservatives, or Neocons, and ultimately came to be libertarians, but no one ever said a salesman convinced them to change, they were exposed to new ideas for sure that challenged them, but their change came about by their own free will.
Were proles recruited to the different stripes of progressivism? Did the recruiters brainwash them and promise them a free pony if they joined? I never came from that camp, I never found any interest in it, actually repulsed by it as an aberration in American history that would come to no good, so it always baffled me as to what was attractive about it.

You wrote "Libertarian", the capital "L" signifies the political party. A lower case "l" signifies the political theory, "only a political theory, that is, an important subset of moral theory that deals with the proper role of violence in social life. Political theory deals with what is proper or improper for government to do, and government is distinguished from every other group in society as being the institution of organized violence.", Rothbard's words from his Six Myths About Libertarianism

https://mises.org/library/myth-and-truth-about-libertarianism 
RayR
5 years ago

first sentence of #8: it's an important admission, reveals his character...and is a good a reason to ignore him...


but he and several others here seem to think insults and name calling elevates the discussions and make themselves seem more credible...

delta1 wrote:



You're a self described "chicom jerk", what do you know of character?
Besides progressive types are the best at insults and name calling, that's basically the substance of their arguments.
bgz
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5 years ago
I've called RayRay all kinds of names...

Pretty sure I've called all kinds of people all kinds of names...

Yeah, I'm a jerk... I might be of the chicom jerk variety, but I'm not sure because I don't know wtf a chicom jerk is and was too lazy to look it up.

I'm definitely a jerk though, that's probably why I get along with RayRay and Frankie T so well!
RayR
5 years ago

I've called RayRay all kinds of names...

Pretty sure I've called all kinds of people all kinds of names...

Yeah, I'm a jerk... I might be of the chicom jerk variety, but I'm not sure because I don't know wtf a chicom jerk is and was too lazy to look it up.

I'm definitely a jerk though, that's probably why I get along with RayRay and Frankie T so well!

bgz wrote:



That's right bgz, you even call yourself a jerk.
That chicom jerk delta1 is just a sissy talking about character and stuff.
frankj1
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5 years ago
he's Chinese American
frankj1
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5 years ago

There needs to be a sales force to sell a political theory? Is that something like Army Recruiters?:-k God forbid.
I've seen people talk about how they were Marxists, Conservatives, or Neocons, and ultimately came to be libertarians, but no one ever said a salesman convinced them to change, they were exposed to new ideas for sure that challenged them, but their change came about by their own free will.
Were proles recruited to the different stripes of progressivism? Did the recruiters brainwash them and promise them a free pony if they joined? I never came from that camp, I never found any interest in it, actually repulsed by it as an aberration in American history that would come to no good, so it always baffled me as to what was attractive about it.

You wrote "Libertarian", the capital "L" signifies the political party. A lower case "l" signifies the political theory, "only a political theory, that is, an important subset of moral theory that deals with the proper role of violence in social life. Political theory deals with what is proper or improper for government to do, and government is distinguished from every other group in society as being the institution of organized violence.", Rothbard's words from his Six Myths About Libertarianism

https://mises.org/library/myth-and-truth-about-libertarianism 

RayR wrote:


so you value whining over changing.
waste of talent.
RayR
5 years ago

he's Chinese American

frankj1 wrote:



Ya, I know. So what about it?
frankj1
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5 years ago
you tell me.
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