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CheapPrick
Aficionado Topic Starter

5 years ago

I bought some butane at the grocery store and put it in a new lighter. It started lighting fine, then after a while, it began sputtering and taking more and more clicks to get it lit only to go out while toasting. I finally tossed it in the ole garbage receptacle. I liked that lighter, It was single torch with a huge reservoir that was nice and clear (see through)

I bought a new lighter on cbid, you know... the one that looks like an over sized zippo with a 5 Vegas logo on it....
I filled it and it worked fine, until my next fill up, then started sputtering and going out. It took multiple clicks to light, just to sputter out while toasting. I read to purge the lighter, so I purged away nearly a whole can and kept purging til that can was gone.

So I stop at a smoke shop and pick up a couple cigars and a can of NEON 5X premium butane. I filled my new lighter and it now lights first time every time with a glorious steady blue 3 torch flame.

Moral of the story? .... There isn't one, but I will never buy Ronson butane from the grocery store again. It cost me twice as much for 1/4 of the sub standard gas.

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frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

you gotta purge the lighter upside down AND right side up to get the gas and the air out.

clintCigar
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

Sometimes if u get the lighter lit and fart on the flame it will be a good purge.

CheapPrick
Aficionado Topic Starter

5 years ago

you gotta purge the lighter upside down AND right side up to get the gas and the air out.

frankj1 wrote:

Yea... I tried that .. I'm convinced it was just crappy gas.. maybe moisture in the can?

CheapPrick
Aficionado Topic Starter

5 years ago

Sometimes if u get the lighter lit and fart on the flame it will be a good purge.

clintCigar wrote:

Far too dangerous.

izonfire
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

Always make sure to empty the chamber.
This was about stopping an imminent threat, right???

Jakethesnake86
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

Hey cheap prick. I have been dealing with the same exact thing. Fasfil 5xrefined butane. All my lighters were /are doing the same.
I bought a can of colibri cheap my lighters are improving. They were just about not usable.
A good while back I bought an Alec Bradley “the burner” that lighter will burn anything so I’m just gonna use that can for that lighter. All my pocket lighters got screwed up though. I think the new butane is slowly cleaning them up or something. They’re working better now. Not back to perfect but I think they will be after a purge or few

I’m the snake

CheapPrick
Aficionado Topic Starter

5 years ago

Jakethesnake86 wrote:

Yea.. I completely emptied my lighter of old fuel till I knew there was none left before refilling with the new fuel.
I squeezed that little nipple till there was nothing left to bleed.
works like a charm now.

clintCigar
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

I've never had any issues with XIKAR High Performance or Neon 11x.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#10

This is where the cheap fall by the wayside.

The sage advice, "You get what you pay for" is so true for hobbies and pastimes.

Stogie1020
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#11

This is where the cheap fall by the wayside.

The sage advice, "You get what you pay for" is so true for hobbies and pastimes and hookers.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

👍

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#12

Here are some interesting things about butane....

Did you know you can have 100x refined butane and it can still be dirty butane? It's easy, just start with really dirty butane...

the number of times you refine something only means anything if you're also revealing how pure the product was when you started refining it AND you reveal how effective your refining process is...

Butane companies don't do that... so you basically have 2 choices:

All of the butane available that are listed as 11x or 5x or 7x or any x amount of times refined... they're literally all exactly the same.... literally... including ronson...

Or you can purchase expensive butane which lists its purity in % Form... Xikar and Colibri are the two I'm aware of... they are 99.99999% pure and they're the only butane worth paying extra money for... and even then, they're only worth it if the lighter you're refilling is valuable... anything at the $20 mark and you're overspending on butane...

Jakethesnake86
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#13

The colibri can be had very reasonably

I’m the snake

opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#14

It's $7/can vs $3 or $4 for the x refined stuff...

Jakethesnake86
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#15

You are correct. I think I have around 5 for the yellow can
7 or 8 for the colibri. Considering the difference I was pretty happy. Bought two more cans of the colibri Some of that stuff is more than 7-8 bucks though.

It is considerably more expensive than the cheaper stuff that may or may not work

I’m the snake

CheapPrick
Aficionado Topic Starter

5 years ago

#16

opelmanta1900 wrote:

I don't know.... I clicked my new lighter so many times to get torch, I finally gave up and lit up on the stove. When I went from Ronson to Neon 5x, I had instant gratification. My lighter torches first click every time now. I'm so happy! 🍺

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#17

I'm using Xikar Purofine Premium...some of my lighters, including both tables and a couple Xikars are not lighting; one will light randomly and another will light after several clicks, but have only an half inch flame despite the adjustment screw at max +

waiting for the lockdown to lift so I can visit the cigar lounge in Glendora and see if Charlie can fix them...he's fixed a couple of my other ones...I'd like to avoid the shipping cost of sending them to Xikar...

thinking I might need to try some Colibri fuel, to see if the Xikar Purofine is the problem...

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#18

may not help the problems above, but every once in a while I press the tip of the butane can into to the top of the lighter and it cleans the ignition components.
Seemed to help with sporadic lighting issues.
Purging should help with sputtering flames, I think air mixed in with the butane causes that.

Also, a few lighters just seem to need to be cranked up higher to work well, low end of the adjustment fails on many.

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#19

I've used the compressed air spray...didn't seem to help...

Palama
Herf-A-Holic

5 years ago

#20

I've used the compressed air spray...didn't seem to help...

delta1 wrote:

I’ve had mixed results, at best.

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