Gene363
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5 years ago
Supreme Court strikes down qualified immunity claim, This could get interesting. It will undoubtedly get expensive for taxpayers.

Steve Lehto explains:


In their orders on Monday, the justices struck down a ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit that had blocked a Texas inmate’s lawsuit against prison officials. The inmate, Trent Taylor, was forced to spend six days naked in cells that contained feces from previous occupants and overflowing sewage. Taylor alleged that prison officials’ conduct violated the Eighth Amendment’s ban on cruel and unusual punishment, but the 5th Circuit, invoking a doctrine known as qualified immunity, ruled that the officials could not be sued because it was not “clearly established” that their conduct violated Taylor’s constitutional rights. Taylor went to the Supreme Court in April, asking the justices to clarify what it means for a constitutional violation to be clearly established.

In a brief unsigned opinion on Monday, the Supreme Court invalidated the 5th Circuit’s decision, without calling for briefing on the merits or oral argument. The justices acknowledged that qualified immunity protects an official who makes a decision that, “even if constitutionally deficient, reasonably misapprehends the law governing the circumstances she confronted.” But in this case, the justices emphasized, “no reasonable correctional officer could have concluded that, under the extreme circumstances of this case, it was constitutionally permissible to house Taylor in such deplorably unsanitary conditions for such an extended period of time.” The court of appeals, the court noted, did not identify any emergency or other need for the prison officials to hold Taylor in these conditions, and the record in the case suggests that at least some of the officials were well aware of – but ignored – the conditions in the cells: One officer, putting him in a cell that was covered with feces, said to another officer that Taylor would “have a long weekend,” while a second officer, putting Taylor in a “frigidly cold” cell, expressed hope that Taylor would “f***ing freeze.” The justices sent the case back to the lower court to allow Taylor’s lawsuit to move forward.




https://www.scotusblog.com/2020/11/court-rules-for-inmate-in-qualified-immunity-case/ 
DrMaddVibe
5 years ago
and 46 did away with private prisons...so...Fed is there to pick it up!

Ruling by Executive Order...who knew?
teedubbya
5 years ago
I heard he let most of them out especially the baby eaters
frankj1
5 years ago
we need to be more like Iran and N. Korea
HockeyDad
5 years ago

we need to be more like Iran and N. Korea

frankj1 wrote:



We should be bombing targets?![-x
frankj1
5 years ago
nope.
we should make prisons filthier and stuff
HockeyDad
5 years ago
Then we can have a TV show called “Locked Up - Right Here!”
Gene363
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5 years ago

nope.
we should make prisons filthier and stuff

frankj1 wrote:



If it's not cruel and unusual, it's not punishment.
Smooth light
5 years ago
Convicts were not promise a rose garden. Every rose has it's torns.
frankj1
5 years ago

If it's not cruel and unusual, it's not punishment.

Gene363 wrote:


when we copy our enemies, they have essentially won.
Gene363
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5 years ago

when we copy our enemies, they have essentially won.

frankj1 wrote:



And if you don't recognize sarcasm without the [sarcasm] alert it's boring and a sign you're reading way too much partisan propaganda, remember it is designed to keep you in a hyper vigilant crazed state, relax.
tonygraz
5 years ago
We need to get MACS in as the head of the Bureau of Prisons. I heard he was training a guard dog.
CelticBomber
5 years ago

we need to be more like Iran and N. Korea

frankj1 wrote:




Like... Writing love letters? I wonder what would happen on these forums if Biden posed for pics with President Hassan Rouhani and then talked about how they fell in love? Anyone care to hazard a guess? Anyone? 🤔


What this inmate went through is now called "Enhanced Incarceration" and is totally fine and not against the law or anything... Nothing to see here people! Move along!

Mr. Jones
5 years ago
This is a very strange case....

Is this jail cell in modern AmerICA?

Because, this sounds really bad...

Most of those cells in the third world have floor drains that they water hose the dirt and crap into every once and a while...I didn't even think they existed in present day America...

This case is freakin' MID-EVIL...

I CANT TELL IF THE CONVICT "WON" OR NOT??
frankj1
5 years ago

And if you don't recognize sarcasm without the [sarcasm] alert it's boring and a sign you're reading way too much partisan propaganda, remember it is designed to keep you in a hyper vigilant crazed state, relax.

Gene363 wrote:


point taken.
MACS
5 years ago
Cesare Beccaria, Italian criminologist - "In order for a punishment to be effective, it must be certain, swift, and severe."

Our justice system is NONE of those things.

Criminals do not care to follow the law, but when they get incarcerated they follow the jailhouse rules to the fkn letter. Ya know why? Because justice is certain, swift, and severe... no judge, no jury, just a brutal beating by their own people. 100% fact.

Prison should be unpleasant. Locking a dude in a nasty cell is cruel and unusual punishment, for sure. But the mofo's should be made to work to pay for their own incarceration.
teedubbya
5 years ago
🇨🇮 Lot of opinion in that. I may agree it’s true, or not but it certainly is not 100% fact. Simply isn’t. It’s an opinion.🇨🇮
Smooth light
5 years ago
It's an opinion, same as the'Supreme Court' opinions. They don't make law just another opinion.
Gene363
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5 years ago

Cesare Beccaria, Italian criminologist - "In order for a punishment to be effective, it must be certain, swift, and severe."

Our justice system is NONE of those things.

Criminals do not care to follow the law, but when they get incarcerated they follow the jailhouse rules to the fkn letter. Ya know why? Because justice is certain, swift, and severe... no judge, no jury, just a brutal beating by their own people. 100% fact.

Prison should be unpleasant. Locking a dude in a nasty cell is cruel and unusual punishment, for sure. But the mofo's should be made to work to pay for their own incarceration.

MACS wrote:



Sherif Joe Arpaio's jail practices for example. Never mind his politics, even some inmates said it was miserable, that is was a good idea and vowed not to return.

Federal prisoners file lawsuits if they are required to stay in better accommodations than we give to GIs, well, except the air Force.
BuckyB93
5 years ago

Cesare Beccaria, Italian criminologist - "In order for a punishment to be effective, it must be certain, swift, and severe."

Our justice system is NONE of those things.

Criminals do not care to follow the law, but when they get incarcerated they follow the jailhouse rules to the fkn letter. Ya know why? Because justice is certain, swift, and severe... no judge, no jury, just a brutal beating by their own people. 100% fact.

Prison should be unpleasant. Locking a dude in a nasty cell is cruel and unusual punishment, for sure. But the mofo's should be made to work to pay for their own incarceration.

MACS wrote:



Have them do the work that the welfare folks don't want to do.
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