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5 years ago
He might be acquitted, but he won’t live down his disgraceful conduct.

The Editorial Board

Whether a former President ought to be subject to an impeachment trial is a matter of constitutional debate. Whether it’s prudent, if acquittal appears likely, is a related question. But wherever you come down on those issues, the House impeachment managers this week are laying out a visceral case that the Capitol riot of Jan. 6 was a disgrace for which President Trump bears responsibility.

Long before November, Mr. Trump was saying that the only way he could lose the election was if it were rigged. On the night of the vote, he tweeted, “they are trying to STEAL the election.” In his speech that night, he called it “a fraud on the American public,” and said, “frankly we did win.” Is it a surprise that some of his fans took his words to heart?

Instead of bowing to dozens of court defeats, Mr. Trump escalated. He falsely claimed that Vice President Mike Pence, if only he had the courage, could reject electoral votes and stop Democrats from hijacking democracy. He called his supporters to attend a rally on Jan. 6, when Congress would do the counting. “Be there, will be wild!” Mr. Trump tweeted. His speech that day was timed to coincide with the action in the Capitol, and then he directed the crowd down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Mr. Trump’s defenders point out that he also told the audience to make their voices heard “peacefully.” And contra Rep. Eric Swalwell, who argued the incitement to attack the Capitol was “premeditated,” it’s difficult to think Mr. Trump ever envisioned what followed: that instead of merely making a boisterous display, the crowd would riot, assault the police, invade the building, send lawmakers fleeing with gas masks, trash legislative offices, and leave in its wake a dead Capitol officer
But talk about playing with fire. Mr. Trump told an apocalyptic fable in which American democracy might end on Jan. 6, and some people who believed him acted like it. Once the riot began, Mr. Trump took hours to say anything, a delay his defenders have not satisfactorily explained. Even then he equivocated. Imagine, Rep. Joe Neguse said, if Mr. Trump “had simply gone onto TV, just logged on to Twitter and said ‘Stop the Attack,’ if he had done so with even half as much force as he said ‘Stop the Steal.’”

The impeachment managers hurt their case by blaming only Mr. Trump for earlier clashes. “ Donald Trump, over many months, cultivated violence,” said Stacey Plaskett, the delegate for the Virgin Islands. But often those events were showdowns between left and right, with both seeking trouble. “When darkness fell,” the Washington Post reported after one melee, “the counterprotesters triggered more mayhem as they harassed Trump’s advocates, stealing red hats and flags and lighting them on fire.”

Yet there’s no defense for Mr. Trump’s conduct on Jan. 6 and before. Mitch McConnell is reportedly telling his GOP colleagues that the decision to convict or acquit is a vote of conscience, and that’s appropriate. After the Electoral College voted on Dec. 14, Mr. Trump could have conceded defeat and touted his accomplishments.

Now his legacy will be forever stained by this violence, and by his betrayal of his supporters in refusing to tell them the truth. Whatever the result of the impeachment trial, Republicans should remember the betrayal if Mr. Trump decides to run again in 2024.
DrafterX
5 years ago
Nancy shoulda done her job protecting da Capitol. she knew this was gonna happen and told the National Guard to stand down.... She should be impeached or somethin.... 😟
Speyside
5 years ago
Robert, I follow your reasoning now, but let it go. He will hurt most from the world forgetting about him. Remember, time always wins.
Gene363
5 years ago

Robert, I follow your reasoning now, but let it go. He will hurt most from the world forgetting about him. Remember, time always wins.

Speyside wrote:



True.
delta1
5 years ago
the primary reason for proceeding with the impeachment trial was not to convict...it was to lay out a record of Trump's misconduct for posterity...it will be part of the legacy of his presidency on which he will be judged by future Americans...leaving a historic mark will serve as a warning to future power-mad autocrats who get elected to POTUS

everybody knew that it was impossible to get 17 GOP senators to convict, damm the evidence...reports are that some GOP Senators are not even watching or attending the House impeachment team's presentation...

oaths don't mean much anymore
Gene363
5 years ago
Soo it's cover for the Biden administration having no plan for COVID.
frankj1
5 years ago
it's about Trump's actions independent of Biden, or Hillary, or Obama, or Hitler, or Nixon, or McCarthy, or anyone else living or dead.
No one else should ever try to undo democracy.
DrafterX
5 years ago
Well, we shoulda had a legal election... and stuff... 😟
frankj1
5 years ago

Well, we shoulda had a legal election... and stuff... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Biden still woulda won big
DrafterX
5 years ago
tonygraz
5 years ago

Well, we shoulda had a legal election... and stuff... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Did you want Biden to win by even more votes ?
RayR
5 years ago

Well, we shoulda had a legal election... and stuff... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Jimmy Carter may have not been right about much but he was right when he chaired along with former Secretary of State James Baker III the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform which stated the fundamental problem is "mail-in voting is fraught with the risk of fraud and coercion.". Countries with more civilized election systems outlaw mail-in voting for just those reasons. Of course Carter is a Reptilian, which are all Chameleons so he changed his position later on.

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