Speyside
5 years ago
You are accountable for your actions. Guess what? Trump did not make you do it. You chose to do it. America owes me because my predecessors were slaves. Guess what? No, we do not owe you. Comments?
DrafterX
5 years ago
Biden sucks... 😟
rfenst
5 years ago
Too late for reparations, if any at all.
Dg west deptford
5 years ago
American blood shed in defense of freedom by the God fearing. Aka The civil war.
That's the payment to defeat our so called democrats.
The debt of American sin can't be paid with anything less
But they didn't eradicate them completely... Thus our current situation.
Freedom only works for a moral population willing to pay for it
DrMaddVibe
5 years ago
Everyone always forgets about the Civil War
tailgater
5 years ago
Reparations. One more tool for the democrats to keep our minority population subservient.

Smooth light
5 years ago
Like I said before, show me your ID that you were really a slave in person, l will gladly pay.
RayR
5 years ago

American blood shed in defense of freedom by the God fearing. Aka The civil war.
That's the payment to defeat our so called democrats.
The debt of American sin can't be paid with anything less
But they didn't eradicate them completely... Thus our current situation.
Freedom only works for a moral population willing to pay for it

Dg west deptford wrote:



The so-called 'Civil War' was waged against the South in the name of the defence of freedom and morality? And God had something to do about it? And the Democrats of the 19th Century are the same as the Democrats of today?
I love American myths, they are like cartoons, anything no matter how unbelievable and unsubstantiated can be made to sound plausible.

tonygraz
5 years ago
I heard that RayRay was a nearly intelligent person until he went on a binge watch of the Flintstones a couple of years ago.
RayR
5 years ago

I heard that RayRay was a nearly intelligent person until he went on a binge watch of the Flintstones a couple of years ago.

tonygraz wrote:



All I can say is Tony is a parrot 🦜 of cartoonish progressive babble.
Someday he may say something relevant, but don't count on it.
delta1
5 years ago
some white people sure do like to wash away the historic barbaric stains of their pure evil racist forebears, even though there are many who still harbor those atrocious beliefs and attitudes about racial minorities...as evidenced by anti-asian hate incidents during the past year and the vociferous push-back against the Black Lives Matter public protests...

none of the pure evil racist incidents that killed thousands of indigenous, black, brown or yellow people in the US past are included in our publicly taught history lessons...there are ample incidents where large numbers of minority people were killed by angry white mobs: Tulsa, Rosewood, Chinese Massacre of 1871, genocide of Indians in California from 1850-70...the genocide of indigenous people by the Franciscan Missionaries in California....and on and on...

https://www.zinnedproject.org/collection/massacres-us/ 


and until recently, exclusionary regulations that kept minorities in designated and less desirable geographic locations, separated from white neighborhoods

is it too much to ask that we all treat each other like how we want to be treated?
BuckyB93
5 years ago
Yeah, it's just a white thing. Your Asian ancestors have been super nice and accepting of others throughout history haven't they?

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5 years ago

You are accountable for your actions. Guess what? Trump did not make you do it. You chose to do it. America owes me because my predecessors were slaves. Guess what? No, we do not owe you. Comments?

Speyside wrote:



I don't know who you're talking to, but for my ancestors, treaties were signed and then later broken.

The U.S. government continues to lose lawsuits still to this day for the broken treaties of the past.

Your statement was very generalized and could be aimed at anyone (except for the part where you said your predecessors were slaves... then I guess the statement is more specific).

So there you go, I'll go ahead and let you defend "we" or "us" in this case, but you may need to define "you", "us", "we" and "it" first.
tailgater
5 years ago

some white people sure do like to wash away the historic barbaric stains of their pure evil racist forebears, even though there are many who still harbor those atrocious beliefs and attitudes about racial minorities...as evidenced by anti-asian hate incidents during the past year and the vociferous push-back against the Black Lives Matter public protests...

none of the pure evil racist incidents that killed thousands of indigenous, black, brown or yellow people in the US past are included in our publicly taught history lessons...there are ample incidents where large numbers of minority people were killed by angry white mobs: Tulsa, Rosewood, Chinese Massacre of 1871, genocide of Indians in California from 1850-70...the genocide of indigenous people by the Franciscan Missionaries in California....and on and on...

https://www.zinnedproject.org/collection/massacres-us/ 


and until recently, exclusionary regulations that kept minorities in designated and less desirable geographic locations, separated from white neighborhoods

is it too much to ask that we all treat each other like how we want to be treated?

delta1 wrote:



Some people are mean.
Many of those people are white.
Your post says nothing new or enlightening. Nobody has claimed that everybody is nice.
As for your golden rule conclusion? How does that relate to reparations?
tailgater
5 years ago
Does anyone honestly believe that monetary reparations to people of color is a good thing? Is it "fair"? Is it a solution to a problem?
RayR
5 years ago
Delta, have you washed away the historic barbaric stains of your pure evil racist Asian ancestors? Since it's guilt by racial association time, Asians have accounted for hundreds of millions of acts of butchery over the centuries of other races and other Asians. What say you?

And who was responsible for the anti-Asian hate incidents during the past year? Was it whitey? No it was BLM types, black Marxists and their cronies.

It seems to me that hatred and butchery transcends race, skin color, religion, politics and ethnicity. It's been the human condition egged on by governments.

Spare me the myth of the peaceful Indians, tribes were slaughtering each of well before Europeans got to N. America.
And who was likewise committing genocide and atrocities to Native Americans during the post Civil War period, well it was those same butchers, those same "God fearing" Union generals and officers who waged total war against their neighbouring republic to the South, in the name of in the "defence of freedom" I've been told. Lincoln called it "Saving the Union"

Ah, but it's always those that excelled in butchery and atrocity who write the myths to glorify themselves, deify their leaders and whitewash their dark deeds, and then feed it to school children. Name a barbaric nation state that hasn't.
These myths are raised up as sacred doctrine, to be looked on in wonder by the proles and never criticized.

Take one called 'Lincoln's Gettysburg Address' for instance. As long as there is still free speech, there will luckily be those that will step outside of groupthink and commit sacrilege to the conventional dogma.

This is just the last paragraph of the essay, "H.L. Mencken on Abraham Lincoln and the Gettysburg Address"

"But let us not forget that it is oratory, not logic; beauty, not sense. Think of the argument in it! Put it into the cold words of everyday! The doctrine is simply this: that the Union soldiers who died at Gettysburg sacrificed their lives to the cause of self-determination — ā€œthat government of the people, by the people, for the people,ā€ should not perish from the earth. It is difficult to imagine anything more untrue. The Union soldiers in that battle actually fought against self-determination; it was the Confederates who fought for the right of their people to govern themselves. What was the practical effect of the battle of Gettysburg? What else than the destruction of the old sovereignty of the States, i. e., of the people of the States? The Confederates went into battle an absolutely free people; they came out with their freedom subject to the supervision and vote of the rest of the country—and for nearly twenty years that vote was so effective that they enjoyed scarcely any freedom at all. Am I the first American to note the fundamental nonsensicality of the Gettysburg address? If so, I plead my aesthetic joy in it in amelioration of the sacrilege."

https://faithandheritage.com/2012/07/h-l-mencken-on-abraham-lincoln-and-the-gettysburg-address/ 

Oh yes, and some moron will inevitably come along and say, that means you must be for slaverrrry! ( Ķ”ā—“ā€ÆĶœŹ– ͔◓)
DrMaddVibe
5 years ago

some white people sure do like to wash away the historic barbaric stains of their pure evil racist forebears, even though there are many who still harbor those atrocious beliefs and attitudes about racial minorities...as evidenced by anti-asian hate incidents during the past year and the vociferous push-back against the Black Lives Matter public protests...

none of the pure evil racist incidents that killed thousands of indigenous, black, brown or yellow people in the US past are included in our publicly taught history lessons...there are ample incidents where large numbers of minority people were killed by angry white mobs: Tulsa, Rosewood, Chinese Massacre of 1871, genocide of Indians in California from 1850-70...the genocide of indigenous people by the Franciscan Missionaries in California....and on and on...

https://www.zinnedproject.org/collection/massacres-us/ 


and until recently, exclusionary regulations that kept minorities in designated and less desirable geographic locations, separated from white neighborhoods

is it too much to ask that we all treat each other like how we want to be treated?

delta1 wrote:




We're told to believe that only Black Lives Matter.

If you say All Lives Matter you're called a racist.

Get with the program.
HockeyDad
5 years ago
I was at a ā€œstop anti-Asian hateā€ protest yesterday. (Well it was more like I walked by it on the way to the car after eating lunch). I did not see any black people there. I’m thinking it will be ineffective.
teedubbya
5 years ago
If you watched do the right thing you would know why
ZRX1200
5 years ago
No it’s not too much to ask that we treat others as we want to be treated. I think that’s exactly the issue the people pushing back on the political BLM movement not the actual TREATMENT of humans in regard to the idea of BLM felt.

Roof top Asians are badass, I’m waiting for them to make a comeback against the knock out cowards.
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