rfenst
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4 years ago
He still cries ‘fraud’ even after the audit he demanded found none.



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Former President Trump claims Arizona’s ballot audit found “massive fraud,” yet the new recount says he actually lost the state by 360 more votes than originally reported. He is now demanding an audit of the 2020 election in . . . Texas, which he won by nearly six points. When are Republicans going to quit playing this game?

Arizona’s official results say President Biden won by 10,457 votes. Mr. Trump never accepted the loss, so the GOP state Senate launched an “audit” by hiring Cyber Ninjas, a company without experience reviewing elections. After repeated delays and various pratfalls, here’s the result: A hand recount of Maricopa County’s 2.1 million ballots says that Mr. Biden won the state by 10,817 votes.

There’s no reason to prefer this tally over the certified one, given the audit’s erratic process and lack of transparency. For details, see a June report co-written by Trey Grayson, Kentucky’s former GOP Secretary of State, warning that Cyber Ninjas “will not produce findings that should be trusted.” The good news is they don’t need to be trusted, since the result is the same, except with worse numbers for Mr. Trump.

True to his nature, Mr. Trump is claiming vindication based on the audit’s analysis of voter files. As the biggest example, he says Arizona’s results include “23,344 mail-in ballots, despite the person no longer living at that address. Phantom voters!” No. Did he read the report? This figure comes from comparing voter records to a commercial database on change-of-address filings, but look at the caveats.

Cyber Ninjas says errors are normal when using commercial data. Most of these voters barely moved: 15,035 stayed in Maricopa County, and another 1,718 went somewhere else in Arizona. Only 40% were Democrats and 33% Republicans. The audit also admits there are “ways that a voter could receive their ballot which in some cases would not violate the law.”

College students move often, but they could easily pick up ballots that were inadvertently sent home or to old roommates. What about people serving in the military, taking extended vacations, or working remotely? Address changes were probably noisier than usual last year, given how the pandemic scrambled life. The report offers no evidence that any of these people voted illegally.

The audit takes aim at other alleged discrepancies, but without providing conclusive explanations, much less proof of wrongdoing. The state’s official results, the report claims, show 3,432 more ballots than can be accounted for using the voter files. Yet in the middle of his presentation Friday, the CEO of Cyber Ninjas, Doug Logan, said Maricopa County recently gave a benign explanation: Arizona has a separate protected voter list, which is used to shield the locations of judges, battered women, and so forth.

Another set of 9,041 voters, 34% Democrats to 30% Republicans, show up in the data as having returned multiple ballots. This “could be explained in any of the possible ways,” Cyber Ninjas speculates, ranging from clerical error to fraud. Or not. “The majority of these,” says a spokeswoman for the Maricopa County Elections Department, “are voters that had questionable signatures that were cured or blank signatures that were eventually signed.” In other words: “This shows our Early Voting team was doing their job.”

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The audit documents exceed 100 pages, and it will take time for local authorities to comb through all the claims. Elections are human endeavors, so it’d hardly be surprising if an outside review found some goofs or ways to improve. But that isn’t Mr. Trump’s aim, as one official acknowledged Friday. “I have already started to hear from people saying that, well, the audit failed,” said Ken Bennett, the GOP state Senate’s liaison to Cyber Ninjas, “because it didn’t prove that the election was overturned or that there was a different result.”

On Friday Mr. Trump was set to Defcon 1, saying the audit found “incomprehensible Fraud at an Election Changing level,” and demanding that Arizona “immediately decertify their 2020 Presidential Election Results.” Is anyone surprised? This is what Mr. Trump does, regardless of the facts. Remember in 2016, when he said the results of the Iowa Caucus should be “nullified” based on “the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz ”?

The GOP should quit chasing him down rabbit holes. Mr. Trump lost last year by 74 electoral votes, so even flipping Arizona would have left him two states short. He can’t admit to his fans that he lost, since it would undermine his rally attendance, fundraising and teasers about 2024. Perhaps Mr. Trump can’t even admit to himself that he lost, and in his final days he’ll be raging on the heath about “ballot dumps.”

But Democrats this coming week are going to try to pass $2.1 trillion in new taxes and $5 trillion in spending, the greatest expansion of government entitlements since LBJ, or maybe FDR. Where’s a Republican leader who wants to pick up the party’s mantle and talk about that?
bgz
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4 years ago
Trump's like the biggest looser ever.


Go big or go home!
bgz
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4 years ago
New breed "Republicans" don't care about spending. All they care about is hanging on to old orange nuts.
RayR
4 years ago

Trump's like the biggest looser ever.


Go big or go home!

bgz wrote:



No, America is the biggest loser ever, look at that creepy old f*ck that it got as POTUS. I mean Com'on Man!
In part thanks to you BTW.
He's coming after your crypto and cigars too, he wants his "fair share"
rfenst
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4 years ago
Ray,

Who do you think were the top ten worst Presidents?
Smooth light
4 years ago
There's a definite pattern here. Demonrats jump on any news with out researching it all the way, desperate to make a loser win. Give it time what's the rush, it's only going to get debunked too.

They been doing it for at least five years plus. Especially with the unamerica news in lock step with them.
bgz
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4 years ago

There's a definite pattern here. Demonrats jump on any news with out researching it all the way, desperate to make a loser win. Give it time what's the rush, it's only going to get debunked too.

They been doing it for at least five years plus. Especially with the unamerica news in lock step with them.

Smooth light wrote:



You forgot to logout Ray.
ZRX1200
4 years ago
I assume every opinionated person here has been keeping track of the audit process and how “clean” it’s been…..
delta1
4 years ago
Trump: "You know why I lie? Because the more I say stuff, the more people will believe me"
ZRX1200
4 years ago
Stare at the symptom like you’re supposed to…
MACS
4 years ago

Trump's like the biggest looser ever.


Go big or go home!

bgz wrote:



LMAO! Calling someone a loser and spelling it wrong... priceless.
Smooth light
4 years ago
How's that KOOL AID taste,🦜🦜🦜's, I see you got another refill.
tonygraz
4 years ago

LMAO! Calling someone a loser and spelling it wrong... priceless.

MACS wrote:



He also told you to go big or go home.
bgz
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4 years ago

LMAO! Calling someone a loser and spelling it wrong... priceless.

MACS wrote:



You're right... my original was loozah evah... but I figured stretching the o's a tad was enough.

Guess I should have went with the original...

Don't even know why I bother...
tonygraz
4 years ago
Yep, MACS is a lost cause.
bgz
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4 years ago

You forgot to logout Ray.

bgz wrote:



Am I the only one that didn't know definitively that RayRay was smoothlight?

I suspected it, but I didn't know it for certain until now.
BuckyB93
4 years ago

Trump: "You know why I lie? Because the more I say stuff, the more people will believe me"

delta1 wrote:



Got a source for this quote or is it just more of your invented falsehoods in your delusional reality?
rfenst
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4 years ago

Got a source for this quote or is it just more of your invented falsehoods in your delusional reality?

BuckyB93 wrote:


Are you going to take the position that Trump is NOT a pathological liar?
bgz
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4 years ago
One thing he said was true... he can walk outside, shoot someone in the face and his followers would still be all up on his d*ck.

(I'm paraphrasing... too lazy to look up the actual quote)
Smooth light
4 years ago
bgz when you assume you doomed,...ESND💩 chrip 🦜 chrip!!!
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