Hear directly from an FDA Exec about the vaccines

Dirty Basturds! Again it's just more proof of cronyism and corporatism at the highest levels of the bureaucratic managerial state.

I've heard that some people believe gubment bureaucrats are selfless public sevants. 😂 😂 😂 Pretty dumb huh?😕

Wonder how long before that video gets taken down by YouTube?

Soon comrade soon

DMV, if he would have posted the video in your thread, I wouldn't have watched it.

Anyway, Moderna on a dip

I don’t have pet peeves. I have major psychotic f**king hatreds.
- GC

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/how-the-cdc-abandoned-science 

Doctor wrote an article on the CDC and how they're making decisions based on politics and not science.

MACS it’s only science when it fits the narrative/purpose, otherwise it’s racist/sexist/subversive.

The whole COVID thing and how it's been handled, in my opinion, has been a bastardization of "science."

I do find it interesting that those here during the start of this fiasco who claimed to be the forefront of this "science" were unable to present the and back up the "science" they claimed to be privy of along the way and have been AWOL for sometime now.

I also find it interesting that Fauci and those that have been pulling the strings along the way are not being investigated and held accountable for the mess that has been created which seems to be unraveling as of late.

I can tell you medics billing is gonna be a hoot after this, and I’m real curious how JACHO is going to handle things and if Medicare is going to do audits.

I roll my eyes at some of these chart notes, multiple negative tests but true diagnosis listed as “likely”. This is stuff that would have put business on the streets 15 years ago.

Bucky, much of the early science was all we had. For instance when science supported droplets as the only airborne way to catch it masks made sense. Mandating was an absolute contradiction with our rights. When we learned areosol was the primary form of transmission the masking made no sense. It was logical to say a new vaccine was a solution.. Once it was clear we knew that the primary danger was from whole body inflammation and congestion there was a very valid treatment that was never discussed, using antiflamitores and decongestants. For instance the lungs are not damaged by the virus itself, rather inflamed capillaries in the lungs bursting.

My point is this, science when done properly is amazing. When science is weaponized for political gain, or net profit gain is pure evil. Also, using those here I consider inaccurate, as I am one of those.

We have multiplied our possessions but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We've learned to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life, not life to years
- GC

It will be a cold day in hell b4 they make me get a fucckin annual vaccine. FDA is crooked as all get up now with them receiving funds from the companies they are supposed to be regulating. That should be illegal.

I agree, you can only go on the data you have at the time. With that said, many conclusions based on early data were taken and presented as fact and scripture. Every Tom, D!ck and Harry were doing experiments and writing papers and got their 5 minutes of fame on places like the Today Show. As with many studies, the results are only valid within the boundaries and conditions in which the study was done. In the researchers defense they do use qualifiers like "it can be shown that..." and "based on the conditions used in the study we found signs of..." and "XYZ has been detected..." and so on.

These qualifiers are not digested by the general public. What they hear is what MSM and glamor experts and politicians present as truth and gospel.

For example, read this https://www.houstonmethodist.org/blog/articles/2020/mar/how-long-can-coronavirus-survive-on-surfaces/

What hits the news wire is this:
"The new coronavirus seems to be able to survive the longest on plastic and stainless steel — potentially as long as three days on these surfaces. It can also live on cardboard for up to 24 hours.

This is what people hear and the fear has been seeded.

What ends up on the cutting room floor is this:
"But while surface-to-person transmission of the new coronavirus is definitely possible, the likelihood sharply reduces with time. The same laboratory study also found that the virus degrades relatively rapidly on surfaces — as quickly as just a few hours in some cases. In fact, at the end of the three-day mark, less than 0.1% of the starting virus material could be detected on plastic."

Let's look at a Today Show article
https://www.today.com/health/how-long-does-coronavirus-live-surfaces-how-disinfect-kill-viruses-t175738

Excerpt:
How long does coronavirus live on surfaces?

Coronaviruses found on surfaces and objects "naturally die within hours to days," with warmer temperatures and exposure to sunlight reducing that time, according to the CDC.

But in the fall of 2020, Australian researchers reported the virus that causes COVID-19 can survive on paper money, glass and stainless steel for up to four weeks, much longer than the flu virus.

At about room temperature, the study found the virus "was extremely robust, surviving for 28 days on smooth surfaces such as glass found on mobile phone screens and plastic banknotes."

The research involved drying virus in "artificial mucus" on different surfaces and at concentrations similar to those reported in samples from infected patients. The experiments were done in the dark to remove the effect of ultraviolet light, which can quickly inactivate the virus.

Which part of this presentation do you think the common person's ears perk up log in their memory banks, and freak out about? The part that COVID can (there's that qualifier again) survive on... and was "extremely robust for 28 days on surfaces such as glass found on mobile phones..."

OR the part where the research was done using "artificial mucus" and the experiments were done in the dark to remove the effect of ultraviolet light which can quickly inactivate the virus.

I agree that I'm cherry picking. But the MSM, the "experts", and the politicians cherry pick much more so.

Why put in the part of cell phone contamination as an example? Because that's what the average person can relate to.

The part of using artificial mucus and lack of UV light in the study so as to feed the virus in a laboratory controlled environment and isolate it from a natural real world environment. Those critical points of the study/experiment is not digested by the average Joe and Jane watching the Today Show.

Again, I get it. To do real research, you have to be able to control the conditions (variables) where you can, collect results. Adjust the conditions, collect results... and so on.

One of my major issues with this topic is the findings on preliminary studies have been stated as facts. As new findings come with more time and research, the "experts" and politicians were still oubling down. However, lately they've been slowly moving into another direction to back off a bit. Not because of science but because election time in on the horizon.

This has been theatre of the absurd. The abuse of medical science has caused so many people to lose trust in medical science. It is shameful. There is so much good information, medication, and treatment available, yet the same can be said for lies and deceit, like the information you listed. That is not real scientific experimentation, as they do not seek truth, they seek per say artificial truth that is fear mongering in nature. Another example is how fast antibodies decrease in effectiveness. What, no talk about T cell blueprints that will probably last for decades? I have no fear of SARS-COVID2 now. I will always protect myself as best as possible due to age and past heart issues. I do the same for flu and pneumonia. This simply put is common sense, not fear. I read an article from a paper near where HD lives yesterday. They went to 3 grocery stores and found 90% of the people shopping at those stores still wearing masks. I don't think of them as people, they are lemmings. Ugh, use your own damned brain.

Just a point about the budget contributions, I'd be curious to see how money contributed by drug companies is actually spent. If the funds come with a drug the company wants to have evaluated it's really no different than a plan review fee most government building departments charge to review plans for anything you want to build. In other words, the company wants their new drug to be reviewed and pays the costs for the review, they are not paid by the taxpayers.

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Mask Freedom Day + 3:

Went to the Asian grocery store - still had their masks required signs up. 100% compliance.

Went to Safeway - no masks signs. 95% wearing masks still.

Sometimes you just have to applaud a great psychological operation. We ran a terror campaign on our own people.

I still see some people wearing them in their cars.


Alone.


Remember when those that said masks were wholly ineffective were called science deniers? Pepperidge Farms remembers...

I swear people don't use logic any more. "Take a bite of food, then put your mask back up!"

Science!

MACS, I am curious. I mean no slight by this question. How dangerous or not dangerous do you think Covid19 is? Maybe you could use the flu as your comparison baseline.