| 1. Author: KingoftheCove | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 10:25AM EST | |
It passed a few hours ago.......
Some of the boutiques gonna be outa business......
Gonna be hard to be a small startup too......
Bummer... |
| 2. Author: DrafterX | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 10:39AM EST | |
Thanks Obama..!!  |
| 3. Author: cacman | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 12:12PM EST | |
Welcome the the U S A and the land of "Freedom of Choice".
It many States it's becoming easier to smoke MJ than tobacco. Go figure... |
| 4. Author: tamapatom | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 12:34PM EST | |
They come after the freedoms that have the smallest constituency first. Easy pickins. |
| 5. Author: sd72 | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 1:49PM EST | |
Won't be long before they're rationing ribeyes.
And stuff. |
| 6. Author: sd72 | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 1:53PM EST | |
Was just gonna give it a quick skim. 7 page index for 499 pages. I'll have to check it out later. |
| 7. Author: Stinkdyr | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 2:13PM EST | |
Just wait until Hitlery takes over the rest of your life.  |
| 8. Author: Bur | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 2:48PM EST | |
How to be a Despot for Dummies, Lesson One
Regulate things instead of making them illegal in the name of "Protecting Their Health and Safety". Make small changes over time, and like the frog killed in now boiling water, they will never notice.
George Orwell didn't write fiction-it was prophecy. |
| 9. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 3:35PM EST | |
*holding my breath for thoughtful left wing responses* |
| 10. Author: tamapatom | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 4:29PM EST | |
Our concerns have been heard! See below..............
Some comments also argued that an exemption for premium cigars is appropriate,
because premium cigars are unique in the way that they are made, marketed, sold, purchased,
and used. They stated that regulation would stifle innovation in the premium cigar market,
devastate a long-time social and cultural phenomenon, and limit the freedoms of businesses and
consenting adults to sell and purchase a legal product.
(Response) FDA understands these concerns. The Agency has determined that cigar use
presents health risks and that all cigars should be brought under its regulatory authority. |
| 11. Author: DCLover | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 4:33PM EST | |
ZRX1200 wrote:*holding my breath for thoughtful left wing responses* FDA regulation of tobacco signed into law by GWBush. Holding my breath for thoughtful right wing responses. |
| 12. Author: jjanecka | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 4:39PM EST | |
Just in time for Cuba. Lol |
| 13. Author: KingoftheCove | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 4:50PM EST | |
From the FDA website
Today’s rule also requires manufacturers of all newly-regulated products, to show that the products meet the applicable public health standard set forth in the law and receive marketing authorization from the FDA, unless the product was on the market as of Feb. 15, 2007. The tobacco product review process gives the agency the ability to evaluate important factors such as ingredients, product design and health risks, as well as their appeal to youth and non-users.
Under staggered timelines, the FDA expects that manufacturers will continue selling their products for up to two years while they submit – and an additional year while the FDA reviews – a new tobacco product application. The FDA will issue an order granting marketing authorization where appropriate; otherwise, the product will face FDA enforcement.
 So, for the short term...............not too much will change.........especially with the coming lawsuits that are sure to be filed. Then, maybe by summer, 2017, there's gonna be some GREAT deals on certain boutique cigars?? Then there's the potential Cuban option........... Difficult to predict the extent of the fallout on the new operators (started after Feb 15 2007), shpos, cbid, and of course us poor saps. Any guesses? |
| 14. Author: tamapatom | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 4:51PM EST | |
jjanecka wrote:Just in time for Cuba. Lol And people actually thought the Cuba thing would influence FDA. Give some bureaucrats rule making authority to implement a law - don't expect them to listen to anyone. |
| 15. Author: KingoftheCove | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 4:53PM EST | |
Oh crap!
Just thought of something.
Is this the end of the Latin Plums?? |
| 16. Author: tamapatom | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 7:35PM EST | |
KingoftheCove wrote:Oh crap!
Just thought of something.
Is this the end of the Latin Plums?? No. In fact you'll have to be a member of the Plums in order to still get the cigars after the new regs. |
| 17. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 7:43PM EST | |
DCLover wrote:FDA regulation of tobacco signed into law by GWBush.
Holding my breath for thoughtful right wing responses. Are you blue yet? |
| 18. Author: DaQueenBeez | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 7:55PM EST | |
Sooo...tell me again why the marijuana industry isn't being dragged into this?
Oops...I mean...
PROHIBITION WORKS!!! It has a proven track record! Just check the history boo.....wait. Come to think of it, there's no need to check the history books. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. |
| 19. Author: SMOKEYOU | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 8:05PM EST | |
In short, federal policy has created a "circular policy trap that hinders scientific research," according to Hudak and Wallack. Research into medical applications of marijuana is constrained by the Schedule 1 designation. And the plant is designated Schedule 1 because there isn't enough research into medical applications. |
| 20. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 8:22PM EST | |
SMOKEYOU wrote:In short, federal policy has created a "circular policy trap that hinders scientific research," according to Hudak and Wallack. Research into medical applications of marijuana is constrained by the Schedule 1 designation. And the plant is designated Schedule 1 because there isn't enough research into medical applications. Nixon's plan when he made it Schedule 1. Very similar to the original MJ Tax Act. You had to have a stamp to possess or deal MJ but the stamps were never made available. |
| 21. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 8:57PM EST | |
If cigarbid moves to North Carolina
Then I won't have to pay the 6% sales tax...
And I'll FEEL A WHILE LOT F#CKING BETTER
WHEN THEY SHIP MY $183.00
9 pound order over 3+? States for
FREAKING !!!
$24.99
Instead of 100 miles as a crow flies
In Pennsylvania....
(I Could take $12.00-$15.00 BUCKS resistantly...
But $24.99 is gouging, Big time in my book) |
| 22. Author: sd72 | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 9:28PM EST | |
I heard you were broke, had no job or savings, and drove a 2000 Malibu with two broken windows.
Maybe get your resume, and car fixed for 183 + shipping. |
| 23. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 11:00PM EST | |
We're blaming Bush for these new regulations that were proposed in the last year Greg? |
| 24. Author: sd72 | Date: Thu, 5/5/2016, 11:54PM EST | |
They were proposed in 2007 |
| 25. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 12:26AM EST | |
Look I'm not blaming Barry. I'm pointing out that big government supporters who smoke cigars/pipes are very quiet right now.
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| 26. Author: danmdevries | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 2:34AM EST | |
So, what I gather from this all is that most of my cigars will be coming from overseas. Well... they mostly do anyway, but even more |
| 27. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 11:00AM EST | |
#22 sd72
I'd rather buy cheap Cigars....
And drink cheap beer
From flea market EARNINGS....
Do some research about
"WORKPLACE MOBBING"...
then make another complete moronic comment like that...
you imbecile...
Getting a job opens you up to
8 hours straight of harrassment ( 40 hours of intense skull-f#cking verbal directed conversation) and WORKPLACE organized gangstalking
In a closed environment, then they frame you into
Theft charges or worse...
Why the F#ck do I need a resume' to put myself into an SSG WET DREAM SCENARIO? |
| 28. Author: sd72 | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 11:19AM EST | |
Ok. I did my research.
Workplace mobbing is when a group of office workers team up to bully a coworker they dislike for various reasons. Not pulling their weight, being an azzhole, ect. Basically getting losers to quit. Sorry you're a victim of this, I just wonder which you were. An azzhole, lazy or both.
SSG is a highly specialized counter intelligence team within the fbi that works with terrorism suspects, and treason, which they are more known for.
So, having been mobbed, and stalked by an anti treason branch of the fbi, I no longer wonder whether you're a nut job. I'll just assume it from here on out. |
| 29. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 11:33AM EST | |
#28 sd72
Dear Mr. IMBECILE,
That is only one definition of MANY....
Not only Do you tailor Your comebacks With
Half answers but you have no idea what The SSG
Really does....
Research , The COINTELPRO hearings
With Sen. Frank Church in the 1970's...
From now on I KNOW your an IMBECILE. |
| 30. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 11:43AM EST | |
CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!! |
| 31. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 11:45AM EST | |
Calling all Muslims and CROS.... |
| 32. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 11:47AM EST | |
I think sd72 is REALLY...
SCOTTY PATERNO...incognito
sd72 is a "TWEETER" social media user too.. |
| 33. Author: sd72 | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 12:07PM EST | |
I do have Twitter.
who you calling cripple, fattie? |
| 34. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 12:27PM EST | |
CROS !!!
Calling all CROS's !!!
"Please...HEP' ME.... HEP' ME ...and
bring your wheelchair"...
"Tweety Paterno" (sd72) is roughing me on a discount cigar forum...
But I heard he can take a joke...
When he's cornered,
By a crip. |
| 35. Author: DrafterX | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 12:30PM EST | |
poor CROS....  |
| 36. Author: tamapatom | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 12:59PM EST | |
This thread sure is has devolved..................FOOD FIGHT! |
| 37. Author: Bur | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 1:07PM EST | |
Hate to admit I was missing the drama, flamings, mention of precious metals and ban-hammering around here.
It was almost like we weren't all juvenile and stuff. |
| 38. Author: sd72 | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 1:29PM EST | |
I know, right. It's not like I wouldn't sit down for a drink with mr. jones and his voices. Or jamie for that matter, as long as we aren't splitting the food bill. |
| 39. Author: frankj1 | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 3:50PM EST | |
sounds like a fun table! |
| 40. Author: DCLover | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 4:45PM EST | |
ZRX1200 wrote:We're blaming Bush for these new regulations that were proposed in the last year Greg? Point taken. We'd have ended up here eventually. Just pissed me off when GWB got the whole thing rolling. |
| 41. Author: tamapatom | Date: Fri, 5/6/2016, 9:15PM EST | |
DCLover wrote:Point taken. We'd have ended up here eventually. Just pissed me off when GWB got the whole thing rolling. They are implementing the 2009 law. |
