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jpotts Offline
#101 Posted:
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^ Something like that I'd think you'd have to have bronzed first.

At the very least for Posterity's sake.
teedubbya Offline
#102 Posted:
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Tough call with the price of corn being what it is
jackconrad Offline
#103 Posted:
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Ah Victor, I do have Insurance Licenses, . Everyday people , young people get turned down for Health insurance because they have Rhemetoid Arthritis and Kidney stones or are overwieght but you think it's ok for peope having Anal same sex or shooting Heroin to have Coverage even thoug it will cause your premiums to go up 25 to 30 per cent as it has in DC and California.
My Heart bleeds for the unfotunate but not when they make choices of risk..
Gene363 Offline
#104 Posted:
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borndead1

What is more innocent than an unborn child?
victor808 Offline
#105 Posted:
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Actually Jack, I don't give a crap about people with aids. you want to have unprotected sex, or shoot up drugs you take the risk. Let them buy their own medicine or die.

But I feel the same way about diabetics, cancer patients and whatnot.

People do game the insurance system, I don't argue that. But that isn't a "gay" thing. Straight people get married simply so one member of the couple can use the others health insurance, hell, at one time i discussed that with my girlfriend. This isn't a valid reason to deny an entire class to marry, unless you want to deny straights too.
donutboy2000 Offline
#106 Posted:
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But they do not buy their own insurance. You and I pay for it.
jpotts Offline
#107 Posted:
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"This isn't a valid reason to deny an entire class to marry, unless you want to deny straights too."

Gay's are now a "class"? I thought they were just like everybody else?

Silly me.

Giving them a "right" that has never been had before, pretty much in the history of mankind, somehow doesn't wash with me.

You can make legal arrangements however you want. You can take vows in front of your god or partner, that's fine by me. But it isn't a union defined as a "marriage." That had traditionally been between 1 man and one woman. Even in ploygamist sects, a marriage is between a man and a woman - the women are not married to one another.




I take issue when the word "class" is thrown around. This is a "later" edition to the societal lexicon that does this country no good.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#108 Posted:
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106. Author: donutboy2000

in addition to medicare, which i pay for, i pay $3600.00 per year for insurance for me and a little less for toby's insurance

that's seven thousand a year plus whatever medicare is charging. my meds are not covered by any plan.

it costs money to remain alive and healthy.
donutboy2000 Offline
#109 Posted:
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victor was referring to people with AIDS and drug users.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#110 Posted:
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putzman

86% of the country is convinced this country is in the dumper.

people go to bed hungry.
people die because they can't afford a doctor.
gas prices are so high, most people can barely afford to go to work

you focus on gay marriage and blow jobs.

you think big. solve the same-sex marriage delllemma and prevent men from getting a BJ and you have solved all our problems.

god bless tiny ptuzman.
donutboy2000 Offline
#111 Posted:
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"86% of the country is convinced this country is in the dumper". Where does 86% come from?

"people go to bed hungry." What percentage are in the US illegally?

"people die because they can't afford a doctor." No hospital can turn away an emergency patient.

"gas prices are so high, most people can barely afford to go to work" More than 50% of workers can barely afford to go to work?

How will Obama solve these "problems"?
borndead1 Offline
#112 Posted:
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76. Author: jpotts Date: 06/17/2008 12:38 PM Reply
borndead1:

"What I never understood is people who are anti-abortion and pro-death penalty."

When a person is sentanced to death, that individual has had at least one jury trial, has had numerous appeals, and gets to keep their life for several years before the sentance is carried out...all at taxpayer expense.

When a child is aborted, it is given no trial, offered no voice in the matter, not provided any defense, offered no appeals, and terminated often on a whim. This too is also often done at taxpayer expense.

It's called "due process". Murderers are given it, unborn children are not.

I hope that clarifies things for you.




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It does not clarify things one bit. How is abortion murder, but lethal injection is not? It is the premeditated taking of someone's life. Leaving out the rhetoric, explain to me the difference between abortion and the gas chamber.

jackconrad Offline
#113 Posted:
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" People do game the insurance system, I don't argue that. But that isn't a "gay" thing. Straight people get married simply so one member of the couple can use the others health insurance, hell, at one time i discussed that with my girlfriend."




VIC , NOW THAT WHAT I CALL ROMANCE !
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#114 Posted:
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111. Author: donutboy2000

good question. i hope we find out.
qmechanics Offline
#115 Posted:
Joined: 09-06-2002
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Rick Said: me, push buttons, you make the joke, no?

My reply: Ha ha no Rick you never push people's buttons, never, not happening lol.

Rick: actually the only button i push is the one i started to push and will continue to push, stop.

Reply: Interesting

Rick: but the bush elevator continuous it's downward spiral
as he makes his world tour along with his hundreds of secret service agents to protect his worthless ass.

Reply: Well we all have our issues don't we?

Rick:i know he may not have any influence on the price of gas, but is that any reason not to blame him.

Reply: It does get a bit tired after a while. But I appreciate your humor.


Rick Said: i have already blamed him for some of my surgeries, so why not the price of gas.

Relpy: The difference is Bush is responsible for your surgeries ;-).

Rick: the other button i push lightly and that is the christian religion button. i don't push the button for any other religion, because no other religion attempts to influence my life.

Reply: This depends on how you define religion. There are many moral forces out there attempting to tell us how we should live. Please go to a PETA or Green Peace meeting etc. and I think you might see my point. Christians are some what marginalized in most western societies. It is the left leaning utopianisms I fear the most as they appear to wield the most power at least for now (I do fear right leaning utopianists as well. I believe as history plays out the Islamic radicals will be more of a threat to our way of life than Christendom. You may not feel this in your life as Islam is not a strong force in America at least not yet.
Rick: religions go about their business tending to their followers as they should and minding their own business.
Reply: What religions traditional or otherwise do this? The very nature of human beings with strong beliefs is to express these ideas to others. If they have no desire to do so then one could ask what worth are such beliefs? I think the right to speech should be tolerated for freedom's sake. Freedom has its price (you or I listening or turning away) and its limits (No compulsion to comply unless agreed upon by the chosen system of government(another complex arrangement open to change)).
Christians have good reason to think they are one of the last persecuted minorities this country. They might also be one of the last things standing between us and the end of our country as we know it. As a country looses a sense of Itself, morality, history, heart, duty, and purpose it fails and falls. And whether we like to admit this or not Christian concepts helped form the bedrock of America. Now before you go off on me understand I did not say Christians are the sole source or the only part of the foundation for our countries principles (There were other. ideas/ forces that played their roles as well just read: Adam Smith, John Locke, Jefferson, Adams, Hamilton etc.). I am just saying that Christianity of one form or another played an important role. And to say they should just go back to their churches and attend to their own is a bit short sighted. Why because for all of the faults many Christians have they also can be the most generous and kind of folks, ready to take up a cause and creating balance in a society wishing to be free of all traditions, even those that keep us safe and secure. I think you might find Christians provide a bit of balance to the equation, that is if you take a step back and look around you: just food for thought.


Rick:as far as herfing together, you are correct. we would enjoy each other's company.

Reply: No doubt, but I believe you are on the west coast and I am in the east. Perhaps at a big herf one day, I would look forward to it.

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qmechanics Offline
#116 Posted:
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PS
Hi
I have to admit this is a funny picture.
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jpotts Offline
#117 Posted:
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"putzman"

This coming from the guy who condemns others as being "little children". Yeah, I haven't heard this since...oh...elementary school.

Consequently, 5th grade was the highest level Rick completed. This is the reason why he was an unsuccessful door-to-door salesman, and eventually went into being a second-rate insurance salesman. And it seems he sucked at doing that as well.

Maybe you should go back into the military where you "accidentally" lost people's medical information.



"86% of the country is convinced this country is in the dumper."

If they listed to people like you, 86% of this country would have hung themselves by now.



"people go to bed hungry."

Really? Get out!

These same people also collect their own urine, and talk to people who aren't there. (Someone might want to check Rick's house to see if he's got a urine collection going...his own, not those of his pets. They use his carpet.)


"people die because they can't afford a doctor."

That's 100% bull.

People go to emergency rooms all the time and get healthcare for free. You, Rick, are a liar. Either that or you're stupid. I'm betting it's a perfect storm of both.



"gas prices are so high, most people can barely afford to go to work."

Well then maybe you should start drilling and refining oil, selling it on the open market, and help the situation out.

Oh, wait, I forgot - you could barely sell insurance.



"you focus on gay marriage and blow jobs."

No, actually I don't. Everybody else seems to, though. And it appears that this is the first thing you cued-in on.

Then again, when both of your hands reject you, I guess you're left to idle fantasies.



"you think big. solve the same-sex marriage delllemma and prevent men from getting a BJ and you have solved all our problems."

You don't think at all. That's part of your problem. It's also why your moronic posts are so amusing.



"god bless tiny ptuzman."

Thanks. You're kinda screwed, though.

Hey Rick, while we're on the subject of God, why don't you lecture the rest of us about being Jewish. You know, that religion whose central focus is a omnipotent diety that you could care less about?

If there is a legacy that you one day leave behind, it is that one can bumble their way through life without having to rely on intelligence, talent, manners, or even good genetics. "Bumble" being the integral word in that sentence.
jpotts Offline
#118 Posted:
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borndead1:

"It does not clarify things one bit. How is abortion murder, but lethal injection is not? It is the premeditated taking of someone's life. Leaving out the rhetoric, explain to me the difference between abortion and the gas chamber."

The Declaration of Independence - the founding document for what are your basic inalienable rights - stated that all Men were endowed by their Creator with three basic rights: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

All punishment for crimes and violations require, by their very nature, a revocation of at least ONE of these rights. When you imprison someone, you violate (at a bare minimum) the right to Liberty. Consequently, you also violate an individual's right to Life, as while incarcerated, an inmates life is not their own. Pursuit of Happiness also takes an obvious hit.

The Founding Fathers understood this, and it is the reason why they implemented the notion of Due Process. Rights cannot be revoked without proper Due Process. Generally, this means that a person is given a trial of their peers before any revokation of one or more rights is metted out. They are also publicly charged with a crime, and also have the right to defend themselves.

Criminals get Due Process. Aborted children do not.

No where in any of the founding documents does it say that your rights are established at birth, given to you by your parents, and so on. They are given to you by a Creator, by virtue of your existence.

Now, if you don't understand these very basic, basic differences between lethal injection and abortion it's because you don't want to.

By the way, I would also like to point out that Capital Punishment has been around since the inception of this country. In fact, the Founding Fathers had no problems with the use of death as a form of ultimate punishment.

So the concept of the death penalty being a form of "cruel and unusual punishment" kinda falls flat when the people who actually COINED the phrase didn't see it that way.

Imprisonment for one's natural life serves the same function. However, a death sentance - when finally carried out - prevents all possibility of a criminal ever seeing the streets again.

So, as before, I hope this *finally* clarifies the issue for you.
jpotts Offline
#119 Posted:
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You know, the sad part is that they baby in the picture probably has a better grasp of reality than RICKAMAVEN does.

Aside from that, there are similarities. Both use baby-speak, both wear diapers, and so on...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#120 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
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PUTZBOY

r u employed now again? before i pull down the ignore window again, i thought i would mention that your attempts to make light of my successful life, will not do one thing to add anything to what can only be considered your feelings of inadequacy in you pursuit of your goals, assuming you had any and were not floundering along hoping for the best, without knowing what that would be.

a little simpler for you to understand.

rick's car is dirty, does not make your car clean or cleaner.

window down for a while.
borndead1 Offline
#121 Posted:
Joined: 11-07-2006
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118. Author: jpotts



Again, no you did not *finally* clarify things for me.

I'm not asking about a murderer's "rights".

I'm not commenting on the "cruel and unusual punishment" of the death penalty. Truth be told, I think that rotting in prison is a much worse fate than death.


Murder is taking someone's life with forethought and intention. Like I said in my last post, it is the premeditated taking of someone's life. Whether it is done by a woman aborting a fetus or the state executing someone, by definition it is the same thing.




Webster's dictionary:

1. To deprive of life, animal or vegetable, in any manner or by any means; to render inanimate; to put to death; to slay.

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