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So when's Obummer gonna address the gas crises?
kwenner Offline
#101 Posted:
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I have already changed. I don't drive unless I have to, I combine all stops to one trip instead of separate trips, so on and so on...

If you stop and look at the way of life in Dubai, you should figure out where your money went and is still going.

Hearsay: GW Bush owns an island in the "World" in Dubai...
Papachristou Offline
#102 Posted:
Joined: 10-20-2010
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they are all so corrupt its unreal. repubs, dems, city, state, locals. buying ipads, cars, i saw some officer in a dodge srt-8 a few weeks ago. thats like a $50k car. give me a break.
DrafterX Offline
#103 Posted:
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Think Think
looking back at the Bush 'Gas Crisis', our suppliers raised the prices because we were at war and our imported oil & gas supplies were at risk. so we paid what ever they asked....

today looking at the Obama 'Gas Crisis', our suppliers don't see a danger of not being able to get us oil & gas... they see us not producing our own... so we are paying them what ever they want...
d'oh! d'oh!
DrafterX Offline
#104 Posted:
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maybe it's not that simple but it's still Obama's fault... Mellow
Papachristou Offline
#105 Posted:
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No, HD has it right. we are slaves to global companies. however, they will push until we break.
DrafterX Offline
#106 Posted:
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Papachristou wrote:
No, HD has it right. we are slaves to global companies. however, they will push until we break.



we should stand up and sing that 'We're not going to Take it' song... that'll show them... Mellow
kwenner Offline
#107 Posted:
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Look in the future... We have sucked their land dry of oil and now they have to come to us for the stuff...

Hahahaha... Who gets the last laugh now???

Not me!!! Brick wall
DrafterX Offline
#108 Posted:
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Saving the Dunes Sagebrush Lizard Could Endanger Oil Production, Lawmakers Say
By Patrick Manning

Published May 10, 2011



WildEarth Guardians

The Dune Sagebrush Lizard.
The push for federal protection of the dunes sagebrush lizard -- a tiny 3-inch reptile -- is causing big headaches for oil drillers and ranchers who say doing so will kill their livelihood.

Oil company owners say they support conservation, but fear what will happen to the economy if the brakes are put on local oil production.

“This could cripple what is now a very healthy job environment,” said Douglass Robison, president of ExL Petroleum in Midland, Texas.

The dunes sagebrush lizard lives off of a shrub called shinnery oak in the Permian Basin, which cuts through New Mexico and West Texas -- and is also one of the richest resources of oil and gas in the United States.

Environmental groups say that oil production has destroyed much of its shinnery oak, which has led to a dramatic decline in the lizard’s population.


“[The dune sagebrush lizard] exists on less than 1 percent of the land proposed during the study,” said Jay Lininger, an ecologist with the Center for Biological Diversity who conducted the study.

Lininger based his study on the land leased to oil and gas companies by the Bureau of Land Management and found that 5 percent of nearly 53,000 acres offered for lease since January 2010 included habitat for the lizard.

But Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Tex.) disagrees with the report done by the Center for Biological Diversity. “They have seen 1,000 drilling locations that would be potentially inaccessible,” he said.

“They have only looked at 1 percent out of potential habitats,” he said. “The science is weak,” he added. He says giving the dunes sagebrush lizard federal protection status wouldn’t be threatening just Texas, it would be damaging to the entire United States because of less domestic drilling, resulting in higher gas prices.

Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) said if the lizard ends up on the list, it would shut down any industry that interrupts the land, including oil drilling and ranching. “Almost every job [in the counties] is at risk,” Pearce told FoxNews.com. “Workers will have to go someplace else.”

Film at 11... Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall
DrafterX Offline
#109 Posted:
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Screw the Lizards!!! Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

ram27bat
DrMaddVibe Offline
#110 Posted:
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I thought Texas was on fire?

They should be smarter than that and run away.Frying pan
FuzzNJ Offline
#111 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I thought Texas was on fire?

They should be smarter than that and run away.Frying pan


Sure, go ahead and have your laugh while Texas burns. Sarcasm
DrafterX Offline
#112 Posted:
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so, can we drill on burned fields..?? Huh
FuzzNJ Offline
#113 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
so, can we drill on burned fields..?? Huh


Watch out Kipp is gonna be pissed. Unless he just gets mad at 'liberals' who he perceives as joking about Texas fires, but that couldn't be it, could it?
teedubbya Offline
#114 Posted:
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Tejas.... The Hamptons.... no big deal either way.
DrafterX Offline
#115 Posted:
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Energy in America: House to Vote on Lifting Offshore Oil Moratorium
By William Lajeunesse

Published May 11, 2011

On Wednesday, Congress will consider a bill to void that. The House is expected to pass H.R. 1231, a bill titled, "Reversing President Obama's Offshore Moratorium Act".

Here's what it would do:

-- Require the administration to allow drilling in at least 50 percent of the Outer Continental Shelf areas known to contain the most oil and gas. Specifically, that means southern California, the Arctic, mid-Atlantic and Eastern Gulf of Mexico.

-- Open up other areas in the southern Atlantic and allow governors there to to opt in to the plan if they chose.

-- Require the federal government to establish production targets for oil and gas. Currently, that would mean 3 million barrels a day of oil, or roughly three times more than the U.S. currently produces from offshore sources.

The bill is one of three recent pieces of legislation aimed to open up coastal waters that Obama declared off-limits in a seeming reversal of his own policy.

Less than three years ago, a Democratically-controlled House and Senate lifted a 27-year congressional ban on offshore drilling off the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic. The move was accompanied by then-President George W. Bush announcing he was lifting a presidential ban on offshore drilling imposed by his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and renewed by Bill Clinton.

In March 2010, Obama sounded like he wanted to expand the plan with more oil and gas exploration on the Outer Continental Shelf. But he left out the Northeast and West coast to appease political supporters opposed to drilling. The policy included expanded drilling in the Arctic and Gulf of Mexico.

The president then changed his mind about those plans after the April 2010 BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, and a six-month moratorium was instituted in the Atlantic and eastern Gulf areas -- set to expire Nov. 30, 2010.

On Dec. 1, 2010, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar announced a new moratorium on drilling, effective for seven years. The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement is continuing to approve proposals for exploratory wells in approved locations in the western side of the Gulf, including five new ones announced Wednesday to be constructed by Shell Oil.

But congressional Republicans say from the start, the president's plan wasn't really an expansion of drilling, but an attempt to cut off large percentages of coastal waters to exploration.

Supporters say the bill being debated Wednesday would reduce dependence on foreign oil by one-third in about 10 years.

"We would probably have enough oil to drive our 60 million cars for about 25 years and heat 60 million homes for probably about 50 years," Randall Luthi, president of the National Ocean Industries Association and a former director of Mineral Management Service under President GeorgeW. Bush, told Fox News.

"For 25 years, as other nations of world were actively exploring their Outer Continental Shelf, we basically shut off the all the West Coast and East Coast. This bill will help at least open up the idea of looking at these areas again," Luthi said.

But California politicians remain opposed and will fight any plan to drill off the coast despite the 10 billion barrels of shallow and easily accessible oil.

"We could replace every drop of oil that California imports for 36 years if we were able to develop that resource," says Tupper Hull of the Western States Petroleum Association.

Opponents add that more oil production at home has nothing to do with prices.

"These three measures (by congressional Republicans) do nothing to reduce gasoline prices but would increase the risk of another oil disaster and open pristine areas to drilling," California Lt Gov. Gavin Newsom said in a letter Tuesday to congressional leaders. "This package of bills is contradictory to the renewable energy policies we should be pursuing."

Hull agrees that California and the federal government should aggressively pursue alternative technologies, but says that won't eliminate America's need for domestic oil.

"The reality is, according to the U.S. Department of Energy, in 2035 better than 80 percent of our energy will come from fossil fuels. And that assumes an explosive growth in volume of the alternative and renewable fuels," Hull said.

As for the bill's prospects, after likely House passage Wednesday, it will die in the Senate. Sources say Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will not allow any bill that allows drilling to come to the Senate floor.

Instead, Republicans will have to nibble at the corners and try to get amendments attached to existing bills that call for limited and narrow offshore drilling in areas where the politics allow for it, even if that means America's dependence on foreign oil grow and prices continue to increase for years to come.

Film at 11... Mellow
Papachristou Offline
#116 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:


"The reality is, according to the U.S. Department of Energy, in 2035 better than 80 percent of our energy will come from fossil fuels. And that assumes an explosive growth in volume of the alternative and renewable fuels," Hull said.



yep, we are definitely moving forward......... Sarcasm
HockeyDad Offline
#117 Posted:
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There is no oil crisis.
fishinguitarman Offline
#118 Posted:
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And yet he will, mark this down, suddenly 'fix' it come election year...


Oh, our HERO!




This clown is....well...What a pathetic joke...
rfenst Offline
#119 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Energy in America: House to Vote on Lifting Offshore Oil Moratorium



My eyes glazed over early in the article, but if the bill passes in both houses, won't it still require the President's signature? If he plans to sign it, why wouldn't he just lift his ban?


(Like I said, my eyes glazed over...)
DrafterX Offline
#120 Posted:
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I know Robert. it's good to see an effort being made but it's far from a done deal. I haven't looked into this in a few days... I'll try to get more info..
rfenst Offline
#121 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I know Robert. it's good to see an effort being made but it's far from a done deal. I haven't looked into this in a few days... I'll try to get more info..


Just seemed a bit ironic to me and kind of made me chuckle when I thought about it... nothing more.
gringococolo Offline
#122 Posted:
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Don't think I will have a great effect on the price of gas at the pump, but it will put lots of people to work.
DrafterX Offline
#123 Posted:
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gringococolo wrote:
Don't think I will have a great effect on the price of gas at the pump, but it will put lots of people to work.



LOTS of people.... not just for the guys on the rigs either... Mellow
gringococolo Offline
#124 Posted:
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I know it. Truckers, trains, boats to haul it. Mechanics to fix all that stuff. Manufacturing of the equipment. Refineries (that will be new and safer). All the construction jobs. The list goes on.

It will likely have to come with a price of more govt workers also. Biologists, security, regulators, etc...
Papachristou Offline
#125 Posted:
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too much relies on oil. like many have show here, lots of jobs and industries have much of their veins deep into the oil industry. Everyone from the federal govt to the cashier at BP
DrafterX Offline
#126 Posted:
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damn EPA.... Mad
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