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WAL-MART Costs Taxpayers $1,557,000,000,00 to Support its Employees
FuzzNJ Offline
#1 Posted:
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"The Democratic Staff of the Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that one 200-person Wal-Mart store may result in a cost to federal taxpayers of $420,750 per year - about $2,103 per employee. Specifically, the low wages result in the following additional public costs being passed along to taxpayers:

$36,000 a year for free and reduced lunches for just 50 qualifying Wal-Mart families.

$42,000 a year for Section 8 housing assistance, assuming 3 percent of the store employees qualify for such assistance, at $6,700 per family.

$125,000 a year for federal tax credits and deductions for low-income families, assuming 50 employees are heads of household with a child and 50 are married with two children.

$100,000 a year for the additional Title I expenses, assuming 50 Wal-Mart families qualify with an average of 2 children.

$108,000 a year for the additional federal health care costs of moving into state children's health insurance programs (S-CHIP), assuming 30 employees with an average of two children qualify.

$9,750 a year for the additional costs for low income energy assistance."


The total figure is based on the average $420,750 per-store figure, multiplied by 3700 (the approximate number of stores currently in the United States).


Source: Rep. George Miller / Democratic Staff of the Committee on Education and the Workforce, "Everyday Low Wages: The Hidden Price We All Pay for Wal-Mart", February 16, 2004.

http://www.walmartmovie.com/facts.php
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted:
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At least they're workin mooch.
donutboy2000 Offline
#3 Posted:
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22. Author: FuzzNJ Date: 02/08/2010  02:32 PM Reply   
19: I’m just barely smart enough to realize how stupid I am. 

VaMtnMan Offline
#4 Posted:
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Walmart currently pays a lot of taxes. Last year, for example, the company paid $7 billion of taxes

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay#ixzz1LpdBcl2R



I also think it is better that those people are working. They could be like most liberals, and just sit at home sucking at Obama's Teet.
DadZilla3 Offline
#5 Posted:
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Important clue that tells me that these 'statistics' are nothing more than socialist disinformation:

Quote:
The Democratic Staff of the Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that...
calavera Offline
#6 Posted:
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The actual flaw in this post can be found in the original post very easily.

Free and reduced lunches. Section 8. S-CHIP.

The problem is not Walmart. The problem is the federal government feeling that it has a mandate to give away taxpayer money to all those on these entitlement programs.

The federal government should stick to running the military and making treaties and those few other things that they were actually given the authority to handle by the founding fathers. All the bs that they have done since then needs to go.

More government at the local level, less federal piracy.






J
Gene363 Offline
#7 Posted:
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Feel good folks say, Democrats, set up welfare programs that enable Wall-Mart to pay crappy wages and maintain the underclasses.

A fancy way to, "Let them eat cake."


The laws of physics and the law of unintended consequences remain unbroken.
kwenner Offline
#8 Posted:
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I was offered a job at the New Super Wal-Mart that they are building in town, they wanted to start me out at $7.85 an hour. I laughed them and said, "you would think a company that sold $240,000,000,000.00 worth of stuff could pay me more than a company who sold $24,000,000,000.00 worth of stuff last year." They also weren't offering any benefits or anything else. A few of the past managers at Wal-Mart are now employees and managers at the Lowe's where I am employeed and they say that place does not want to pay their employees.

Its sad, Wal-Mart has become a LARGE company off of the people of America and the people of China. These the main reasons why I won't step foot in a Wally World ever again. At least at Lowe's they are willing to give their employees AWESOME benefits, the best that I have ever seen minus a pension plan....
JadeRose Offline
#9 Posted:
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Don't like it? Stop going there. I haven't set foot in a WalMart in over 3 years. Do some items cost me a little more? Maybe...but I walk my talk and keep my sanity. I HAAAAAAAATE WalMart. My local KMart always has what I need and it is never as crowded because all the mooks are at Walmart.
DrafterX Offline
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I'd go to Target if I had the choice... only have Walmart here... scenery is usually pretty nice tho.... Mellow
kwenner Offline
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Where my wife is from, Cranberry PA, there is only a Wal-Mart. They have put all other places out of business.

So, everytime we go up there we HAVE to go into the place. But here in Lincolnton, NC, I shop at Lowe's and anywhere else that I can rather than Wal-mart...

I pay a little more, but I am not that worried about it.
daveincincy Offline
#12 Posted:
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Walmart can only benefit from this poor economy. If the democrats want to put Walmart out of business then perhaps they should consider doing something to get the economy ROARING again.
HockeyDad Offline
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Looks like the ball is back in FuzzNJ's court.
Papachristou Offline
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VaMtnMan wrote:


I also think it is better that those people are working. They could be like most liberals, and just sit at home sucking at Obama's Teet.


oh thank you for that, i almost fell out of my chair laughing.


yes, the problem here clearly isnt walmart. If you are applying for a job at wallyworld, you are already in a low income class. at least they are getting out trying to work and earn some kind of money to support their family. The problem is exactly as VaMtnMan put it. The libs thinking they have to pop a teet in everyones mouth.

if you dont like it, dont shop there.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted:
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the gubment should give us all $800 checks to go shop at Walmart... Mellow
Papachristou Offline
#16 Posted:
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no, checks are too degrogatory. they will give you gov. debit cards.
chiefburg Offline
#17 Posted:
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kwenner wrote:
I was offered a job at the New Super Wal-Mart that they are building in town, they wanted to start me out at $7.85 an hour. I laughed them and said, "you would think a company that sold $240,000,000,000.00 worth of stuff could pay me more than a company who sold $24,000,000,000.00 worth of stuff last year." They also weren't offering any benefits or anything else. A few of the past managers at Wal-Mart are now employees and managers at the Lowe's where I am employeed and they say that place does not want to pay their employees.

Its sad, Wal-Mart has become a LARGE company off of the people of America and the people of China. These the main reasons why I won't step foot in a Wally World ever again. At least at Lowe's they are willing to give their employees AWESOME benefits, the best that I have ever seen minus a pension plan....

I'm so amused right now. You are complaining about Walmart yet you work at a Lowes. Lowe's comes into towns and runs all the mom and pop lumber yards out of business. Lowe's and Home Depot are the Walmarts of the lumber and home supply yuppies.....

For the OP: Fuzz - you do realize this theory applies to any business who pays low wages. Those places include virtually ALL the fast food joints, flower shops, gas stations, restaurants, etc. So, this isn't really a Walmart problem at all - they are just someone to pick on.
dpnewell Offline
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chiefburg wrote:
I'm so amused right now. You are complaining about Walmart yet you work at a Lowes. Lowe's comes into towns and runs all the mom and pop lumber yards out of business. Lowe's and Home Depot are the Walmarts of the lumber and home supply yuppies.....

For the OP: Fuzz - you do realize this theory applies to any business who pays low wages. Those places include virtually ALL the fast food joints, flower shops, gas stations, restaurants, etc. So, this isn't really a Walmart problem at all - they are just someone to pick on.


+1 to the entire post.
robertknyc Offline
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So Wal Mart does things more efficiently than other stores and offers people low prices and that's a bad thing? Sorry, maybe we should go back to the horse and buggy and punch card computers. This is capitalism, competition lets the entity that offers the best deal rise to the top. If mom and pop stores can't compete then their model is obviously not the best one, sorry. And as far as wages go, if you have more skills and can earn more that $7.85/hr. then you don't have to work at Wal Mart. If you chose not to finish high school and can't find a job anywhere, Wal Mart may be the place for you. What of the line of thousands of people that typically apply to work there when they open new stores? Spare me all the whining about Wal Mart.

And in the OP the Rep. that is the source of the story is one of the most whacked out libs in the congress.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Important clue that tells me that these 'statistics' are nothing more than socialist disinformation:




98.2% of all statistical references are B$!!!!Beer
chiefburg Offline
#21 Posted:
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robertknyc wrote:
So Wal Mart does things more efficiently than other stores and offers people low prices and that's a bad thing? Sorry, maybe we should go back to the horse and buggy and punch card computers. This is capitalism, competition lets the entity that offers the best deal rise to the top. If mom and pop stores can't compete then their model is obviously not the best one, sorry. And as far as wages go, if you have more skills and can earn more that $7.85/hr. then you don't have to work at Wal Mart. If you chose not to finish high school and can't find a job anywhere, Wal Mart may be the place for you. What of the line of thousands of people that typically apply to work there when they open new stores? Spare me all the whining about Wal Mart.

And in the OP the Rep. that is the source of the story is one of the most whacked out libs in the congress.

Personally, I'm a fan of Walmart. I'm a fan because Walmart does offer very low prices on tons of items. Everyone wants to stretch their dollar as far as possible. I'm also a fan because of the free enterprise system - Walmart knows their business and how to get the most from it. I'm also a fan because Walmart employees thousands upon thousands of people who cannot get a job anywhere else due to little to no education, age, and a myriad of other influences. I have a sister-in-law that wouldn't be employed if Walmart didn't exist. So, it keeps tons of folks off Welfare and gives them an opportunity to be productive citizens rather than collect a handout from the Government.

While I don't always enjoy shopping at Walmart, I do applaud them and what they bring. We can argue the China issues, the insurance issues, and the wage issues until we are blue in the face. Frankly, if Walmart paid their employees all the benefits, we wouldn't have anything but another Target, KMart or Sears.
gringococolo Offline
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When you become a Walmart associate, you can take advantage of a variety of great benefits for you and your family, including:

Health & Wellness Benefits
•Consumer-directed health plans including Health Reimbursement Accounts (HRA) plans and a High-deductible plan with an Health Savings Account (HSA). Plans include:◦No lifetime maximum
◦100% coverage for eligible preventive care when you use a network provider
◦Coverage for dependents up to age 26
◦No pre-existing condition limits for anyone under age 19
◦80% coverage for eligible network services after you meet your total annual deductible
◦$4 co-pay on more than 2,000 eligible generic drugs
◦Ask Mayo Clinic Nurse Line - speak to a registered nurse 24/7
◦Life with Baby Maternity Program - your own personal support network before, during and after pregnancy
◦Quit Tobacco program

•Dental Insurance
•Resources For Living® -- confidential counseling and health information service free to all associates 24/7
•Company-paid life insurance
•Optional and dependent life insurance
•Accidental death & dismemberment insurance (AD&D)
•Critical illness and accident insurance
•Short- and long-term disability insurance
•Business Travel Accident Insurance
•Illness protection (sick time)
•Associate Eyewear Program

Financial Benefits
•Matching contributions to your 401(k) up to 6%
•Associate Stock Purchase Plan with a company match of 15% up to the first $1,800 purchased each Plan year
•Associate Discount Card for Walmart associates, spouses and dependents for 10% discount on regular priced general merchandise and fresh produce purchased at a Walmart store.
•Sam’s Club memberships for Sam’s Club associates
•Discounts travel, entertainment and more
•Retirement account rollover
•Military differential pay
•Paid time-off including: holidays, vacation, personal, bereavement and jury duty
rfenst Offline
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Why should Walmart-Mart pay one single cent more than it has to for labor or management?

It is in business to make a profit for its owners/shareholders. Its obligation to employees is to provide a work environment that meets minimum legal standards and to pay their employees whatever they owe them. Nothing more.

To a major extent, I would try to do what Walmart without any second thought or regret. If we didn't have minimum wage laws, Walmart would probably only pay some employees even less than it does. This is nothing other than the current American version of capitalism.

Now, as to liberal v. conservative (whatever those two terms mean to the user(s)) and which Walmart employs, what the hell does that have to do with any portion of a rational discussion on the issue?
ZRX1200 Offline
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^ yup......

I shop for my weekly luch stuff at walmart. The proximity to me house is convenient but not their prices. They are actually high on alot of things.....if it wasn't for bread, deli meat, photo processing and dog food id never go there.
HockeyDad Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
^ yup......

I shop for my weekly luch stuff at walmart. The proximity to me house is convenient but not their prices. They are actually high on alot of things.....if it wasn't for bread, deli meat, photo processing and dog food id never go there.




I refuse to eat Walmart dog food.

Shame on you
chiefburg Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I refuse to eat Walmart dog food.

Shame on you

Frickin' French think they are better than us.......nothing wrong with eating Walmart dog food - it's made with real dogs!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Better hope more republicans don't get elected....everyone will be eating walmart dog food.
Stinkdyr Offline
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Fuzzy, these are good reasons to eliminate welfare in all its various forms.......not to persecute WallyWorld.

Brick wall

gringococolo Offline
#29 Posted:
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Lets do the math since it doesn't appear that the OP is capable of using a calculator.

$420,750.00 x 3700 = $1,556,775,000.00 or "one billion, five hundred fifty six million, seven hundred seventy five thousand dollars"

Walmart paid $5,300,000,000.00 in federal taxes. So the federal governtment made $3,443,225,000.00 off of them last year.

They paid $677,000,000.00 in state and local taxes.

They paid $1,100,000,000.00 on international taxes.


Their actual rate of taxes was around 32% (corporate rate is 35%) on the $22,000,000,000.00 in profit they made.


Once again Fuzz, you are no more than a "stay at home idiot" and pot stirring fool.



Tax bills for 5 corporate giants

The 2009 income tax bills for America's biggest companies ranged from $0 to $15 billion.
Here's why.
1 of 5

Wal-Mart Stores: $7.1 billion

U.S. federal: $5.3 billion

U.S. state and local: $677 million

International: $1.1 billion

Before taxes, the world's largest retailer banked $22.1 billion in profit. After deductions and factoring in its international operations, the company still paid just under a third of that back in taxes to various governments.

The federal tax rate for corporations is 35%. Wal-Mart's effective income tax rate came in just under that, at 32.4%

It works the same way for individuals. Just as a person can lower his or her tax rate through deductions and credits, so too can major corporations, said Scott Hodge, president of the Tax Foundation.

But remember, income taxes aren't the only payments major companies make to the IRS. "Wal-Mart probably collects and pays more sales taxes than any other company on earth," Hodge said.

By Annalyn Censky, staff reporter



http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/news/1004/gallery.top_5_tax_bills/index.html

HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted:
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Someone just got served. Can you smell that burn in the air?
robertknyc Offline
#31 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Looks like the ball is back in FuzzNJ's court.


Maybe he's at a Garden Club meeting. I'm sure he'll be back in a while.
dpnewell Offline
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Even the title of this thread shows how twisted Liberal thinking is. How it should read is:

"Government Programs, Initiated By Liberal Law Makers, Cost Taxpayers $1,557,000,000.00, Just In Benefits Paid To Wal-Mart Employees."
JadeRose Offline
#33 Posted:
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I just hate Walmart because the customers all smell bad and none of the employees have any toofusses.


...plus they stopped stocking Key Lime Water because some a$$hole kept stealing it.
jpotts Offline
#34 Posted:
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I think what Fuzz is trying to get at is that these people working at Wal-Mart should be fired.
bdrizzle Offline
#35 Posted:
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How does Walmart even make money when everyone who shops there works there?
kombat96 Offline
#36 Posted:
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Lets Go Krogering!
DrafterX Offline
#37 Posted:
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kombat96 wrote:
Lets Go Krogering!




That would be gay.... Mellow
chiefburg Offline
#38 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
That would be gay.... Mellow

Took 37 posts for this thread to turn gay.......is that record????
DadZilla3 Offline
#39 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Better hope more republicans don't get elected....everyone will be eating walmart dog food.

C'mon, that's a gross exaggeration and you know it. The fact of the matter is, come next election with Republicans in the Senate and White House, only the elderly, minorities, and The Children will have to live on dog food.

Has to be true. I saw it in a Michael Moore movie. Not talking
FuzzNJ Offline
#40 Posted:
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So it seems the consensus is:

Walmart pays enough taxes to cover the government expenditure.
The government should end the programs the Wal-mart employees need to cover for their low wages.

If the programs are ended, would market forces require Wal-mart to raise their wages and provide benefits or would the workers then start a union to force them to?

Capitalism sure works great for a Wal-Mart when they are big enough to come into an area, get land free of property taxes for building, lower all their prices until nearly all the competition is gone and then raise those prices. Not so great for everyone else, including those who make products, not just sell them.

robertknyc Offline
#41 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:

Capitalism sure works great for a Wal-Mart when they are big enough to come into an area, get land free of property taxes for building, lower all their prices until nearly all the competition is gone and then raise those prices. Not so great for everyone else, including those who make products, not just sell them.



I'm still pissed about the bath my grandfather took in some wagon wheel company stock. I would have inherited millions if it wasn't for that damn capitalism!
Whistlebritches Offline
#42 Posted:
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FUZZ YOU IGNORANT SLUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Walmart is not now nor has it ever been the problem.People such as yourself come along looking to cast blame....WHY NOT PICK ON WALMART???????Well lets see.......because every business in America has some low wage workers.OH except the one that the in-laws let you run.....yes I'm sure your janitors make 6 figures and have a very healthy golden parachute waiting on them.Please tell us all about it.


I'd venture to say that 98.2% of all the responses to this thread have disagreed with you......But the Fuzz we all know and despise is going to keep returning and telling us how wrong we are and right he is.

Fuzz....it's a damn good thing those in-laws of yours feel obligated to provide for you.You wouldn't last a week in the real world.


Ron
chiefburg Offline
#43 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So it seems the consensus is:

Walmart pays enough taxes to cover the government expenditure.
The government should end the programs the Wal-mart employees need to cover for their low wages.

If the programs are ended, would market forces require Wal-mart to raise their wages and provide benefits or would the workers then start a union to force them to?

Capitalism sure works great for a Wal-Mart when they are big enough to come into an area, get land free of property taxes for building, lower all their prices until nearly all the competition is gone and then raise those prices. Not so great for everyone else, including those who make products, not just sell them.


Walmart is just one of thousands doing the same thing. Talk to McDonalds, Burger King, restaurants, every store in every mall in the U.S., every gas station and mini-mart, etc.

I still believe that Walmart offers employment to thousands and thousands of people who couldn't get work elsewhere. Believe what you will - they are paying tons in taxes and doing good.

Not sure what else to say......I can't think of anything that would sway your thought patterns. I see your point clearly but not sure it's a valid argument when so much good comes from it.
robertknyc Offline
#44 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So it seems the consensus is:

If the programs are ended, would market forces require Wal-mart to raise their wages and provide benefits or would the workers then start a union to force them to?


If the programs were ended (yah, like that will ever happen) maybe people would actually have to get off their ass and work and maybe get a GED or a tech school degree. I guess that's asking too much of these hallowed charity recipients if you're a liberal. If the programs actually WERE ended there would be more people clamoring for work and it might actually LOWER wages, perish the thought!
DadZilla3 Offline
#45 Posted:
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FuzzNJ wrote:
If the programs are ended, would market forces require Wal-mart to raise their wages and provide benefits or would the workers then start a union to force them to?


Wal-Mart pays their workers whatever they need to pay them in order to attract a work force capable of keeping their stores running. No more, no less. This is what every organization that hopes to stay in business in the real world does.

Regarding your claim of 'no benefits'...from the Wal-Mart website:

http://walmartstores.com/careers/7750.aspx

Quote:
When you become a Walmart associate, you can take advantage of a variety of great benefits for you and your family, including:
Health & Wellness Benefits

Consumer-directed health plans including Health Reimbursement Accounts (HRA) plans and a High-deductible plan with an Health Savings Account (HSA). Plans include:
No lifetime maximum
100% coverage for eligible preventive care when you use a network provider
Coverage for dependents up to age 26
No pre-existing condition limits for anyone under age 19
80% coverage for eligible network services after you meet your total annual deductible
$4 co-pay on more than 2,000 eligible generic drugs
Ask Mayo Clinic Nurse Line - speak to a registered nurse 24/7
Life with Baby Maternity Program - your own personal support network before, during and after pregnancy
Quit Tobacco program
Dental Insurance
Resources For Living® -- confidential counseling and health information service free to all associates 24/7
Company-paid life insurance
Optional and dependent life insurance
Accidental death & dismemberment insurance (AD&D)
Critical illness and accident insurance
Short- and long-term disability insurance
Business Travel Accident Insurance
Illness protection (sick time)
Associate Eyewear Program

Financial Benefits

Matching contributions to your 401(k) up to 6%
Associate Stock Purchase Plan with a company match of 15% up to the first $1,800 purchased each Plan year
Associate Discount Card for Walmart associates, spouses and dependents for 10% discount on regular priced general merchandise and fresh produce purchased at a Walmart store.
Sam’s Club memberships for Sam’s Club associates
Discounts travel, entertainment and more
Retirement account rollover
Military differential pay
Paid time-off including: holidays, vacation, personal, bereavement and jury duty



Peoria Perfecto Purveyor Offline
#46 Posted:
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Hey, whether or not if I agree with the political views on Walmart ... I don't have a choice. Frying pan

They beat every other stores prices for vitamins and over the counter drugs, and most merchandise.

I get migraines and must have a constant supply of ibuprofen.

I get a bottle of Equate ( Walmart house brand ) 500 tablets for under $ 7

It is double the price or more anywhere else ( even house brands ) ... lucky to find a sale at $ 12

I also bought 35 pound box of cat litter for $11.

14 pound tubs at just about every other store run $ 6-7

Thats approximately $ 18 bucks for 35 pounds.

I cannot afford to shell out an extra $ 14 ( $ 15.25 with tax ) whether or not I agree with their policies.

That's the bottom line.

d'oh!

RICKAMAVEN Offline
#47 Posted:
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VaMtnMan

YOU DON'T KNOW S H I T ABOUT LIBERALS.

I STARTED MY FIRST JOB IN 1949 WHEN I WAS 17 AND
EVEN THOUGH I RETIRED IN 2001, I STILL WORK PART
TIME, NOW THAT I'M 78.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR FIRST FIVE
YEARS OF WORK REPUBLICON

DON'T TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW,
DrMaddVibe Offline
#48 Posted:
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Posts: 55,528
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
DON'T TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW,




Um...hey Dear Abby...take your own advice.

Case in point...

GW Bush

Sarah Palin

Crop Circles

Cleaning supplies

Paint

God

Cigars

Politics

Capitalism

The US of A

and just about every other topic you want to talk down to everyone on.


RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Kawak

I HAVE AWAYS THOUGH YOU WERE AN IDIOT AND NOW I REALIZE YOU R AN A S S HOLE TOO.



It's pathetic.
gringococolo Offline
#49 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
VaMtnMan

YOU DON'T KNOW S H I T ABOUT LIBERALS.

I STARTED MY FIRST JOB IN 1949 WHEN I WAS 17 AND
EVEN THOUGH I RETIRED IN 2001, I STILL WORK PART
TIME, NOW THAT I'M 78.

LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR FIRST FIVE
YEARS OF WORK REPUBLICON

DON'T TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW,





Rick,

This post should have ended with a thank you. You should be thanking all of us for paying more into Social Security than you ever had too. The rate of SS taxes has risen as have wages.


You are welcome.

Enjoy your retirement on the backs of us that have paid more and will receive less because of the ravenous appetite for government teat of your "entitlement" generation.

Once again you are welcome. I appreciate all that you have done for this country, but you guys needed to have more tax-paying children.




DrMaddVibe Offline
#50 Posted:
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gringococolo wrote:
Rick,

This post should have ended with a thank you. You should be thanking all of us for paying more into Social Security than you ever had too. The rate of SS taxes has risen as have wages.


You are welcome.

Enjoy your retirement on the backs of us that have paid more and will receive less because of the ravenous appetite for government teat of your "entitlement" generation.

Once again you are welcome. I appreciate all that you have done for this country, but you guys needed to have more tax-paying children.







Well, he did just have his first grandkid...a mighty waterfall starts with a drop!

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