America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 12 years ago by Kawak. 195 replies replies.
4 Pages<1234
Romney: Obama 'threw Israel under the bus'
DrMaddVibe Offline
#151 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
Well, I dunno if I can handle being raptured twice!

Besides...he reminds me of the guy in Poltergeist.

http://home.comcast.net/~mlpaul/polt/happyka.jpg

Not feeling the "lovin' spirit" from Grandpa if ya know what I mean...besides he ain't doin' interviews!

http://mobile.gothamist.com/2011/05/22/rapture_hangover_where_the_hell_is.php
HockeyDad Offline
#152 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
There was nothing new in Netanyahu's speech and I think everyone can agree that there is enough of a gap between what President Obama laid out and the EU and Middle East Quartet backed in comparison to what Netanyahu laid out as well as what the Palestinian leadership has laid out to pretty much guarantee there won't be any restarting of peace talks. With all the preconditions out there, it is silly to think there will be any movement.

At this point it is game over for that phase and now it is time to move on to the UN in September. In the meantime I'll back the Wheelrite Peace Solution of annexation of the West Bank and Gaza and citizenship and assimilation for all. That really is just the final step in the Egyptian and Jordanian peace treaties anyway.

As for the USA, it is time to disengage from the peace process. There isn't one. The Middle East Quartet can continue to meet and enjoy lavish dinners but their work is done. We don't need to be there.

The remaining detail is for the USA to cut off foreign military aid gifts to the region. We can't afford it and they don't need it. Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt can pay cash like everyone else. It is time for the USA to butt out.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#153 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
Going to the UN isn't a viable solution either.

Unless the UN backs terrorist regimes...oh wait a minute...they do!

Look at Labia!
HockeyDad Offline
#154 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
DrMaddVibe wrote:
W
Not feeling the "lovin' spirit" from Grandpa if ya know what I mean...besides he ain't doin' interviews!




He did an interview today and revised the prediction.

I'm actually wondering if maybe he was right all along and all of mankind is so rotten that nobody actually raptured. Maybe we're all toast.
DrafterX Offline
#155 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,566
HockeyDad wrote:
He did an interview today and revised the prediction.

I'm actually wondering if maybe he was right all along and all of mankind is so rotten that nobody actually raptured. Maybe we're all toast.




ThumpUp


can you get a refund from the Vatican..?? Huh
HockeyDad Offline
#156 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
If you can find any church that gives a refund, let me know!

I don't think their accounting books work that way.
frankj1 Offline
#157 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,234
HockeyDad wrote:
Actually Israel started the 1967 war and that is why returning to those pre-war borders always comes up and is backed by UN resolutions.

However since Israel's peace treaties with Jordan and Egypt released any claims on that land to Israel, I would make the same case that Israel doesn't have to return that land to anyone just like the USA doesn't have to return the southwest to Mexico. I believe a peace treaty between nations takes priority over some old UN resolution.

This supports Wheelrite's solution.

now you know better than to try to slip the ol' "israel fired first so they started it" BS. We have pretty much covered the whole preemptive strike was legitimate defense to the entire world at the time.

And I believed you when you said no more of that crap., let's talk solution.

And for whoever mentioned the big change in borders between the maps of 1949 and 1967...FYI, the Arabs REFUSED their bigger homeland in 1949 too! Why? Because they did not want Israel to exist!!!

frankj1 Offline
#158 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,234
As for the Indians, first in the American League central!
HockeyDad Offline
#159 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
frankj1 wrote:
now you know better than to try to slip the ol' "israel fired first so they started it" BS. We have pretty much covered the whole preemptive strike was legitimate defense to the entire world at the time.

And I believed you when you said no more of that crap., let's talk solution.




Israel fired first in the 1967 war. Israel attacked first in the 1967 war. Nothing I said was incorrect. If you launch a preemptive strike, you fired first. It is no big deal and doesn't even need any historical revision. It was a genius attack.

The key thing is Israel gained the West Bank from Jordan through peace treaty. Israel gained the Gaza Strip from Egypt through peace treaty. I'm on board with the Wheelrite One State Solution. My message to those in the West Bank and Gaza is "Welcome to Israel! Now assimilate."

Nobody else even offered a plan for a 2 state solution.
HockeyDad Offline
#160 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
Israeli politics rock! Nobody is ever happy with anything. From the Jerusalem Post:



PM's opponents on Left and Right urged him to stay in Washington, continue to receive nearly unanimous affirmation from US politicians,


Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu may have received 26 standing ovations from Senators and Congressmen during his speech to them on Tuesday but Knesset members from across the political spectrum were much tougher on him.

His political opponents on the Left and hard Right urged Netanyahu to stay in Washington, where he could continue to receive nearly unanimous affirmation from American politicians, with the exception of US President Barack Obama.

One of the only MKs who released a statement praising Netanyahu was Otniel Schneller of Kadima, who said the prime minister had succeeded in speaking for a consensus of Israelis. Schneller urged his faction to put politics aside in favor of the national interest.

But a Kadima spokesman accused Netanyahu of unnecessarily harming relations with the United States and said he would be judged by his actions and not his oratory capabilities. Kadima MK Yoel Hasson accused the prime minister of staging an election campaign from Washington.

"Netanyahu's speech to Congress was an election commercial," Hasson said. "It was an attempt by Netanyahu to present a false impression that he is willing to enter negotiations. The people of Israel should not be enticed and should understand that Netanyahu's policies will lead not only to international isolation, but also to a bi-national state."

Further to the Left, MK Zehava Gal-On of Meretz called Netanyahu "dangerous" and "extremist" and rejected his statement that Israel would never return to the pre-1967 borders.

"Even Netanyahu knows that there is no such thing as peace that is not based on '67 borders and dividing Jerusalem," she said.

The prime minister received even harsher criticism from MKs on the Right who were upset about his statement about some settlements being left outside of Israel's final borders. MK Tzipi Hotovely from his own Likud party said the speech was "a dangerous precedent from a right-wing prime minister." National Union MK Michael Ben-Ari slammed Netanyahu for offering the Palestinians a state, saying that he had become the Palestinian Herzl.

"Netanyahu received the greatest applause when he said that Israel is the land of our forefathers and that Jerusalem will not be divided, so there was no need for him to declare that he is willing to give up large portions of our homeland to the Arabs," Ben-Ari's National Union colleague Aryeh Eldad said. "Saying that he is willing to abandon settlements will only encourage the Arabs to ask for more and we are liable to pay for this in blood."

Likud ministers Gideon Sa'ar, Limor Livnat and Yuli Edelstein praised Netanyahu for presenting Israel's case well. They said the Palestinian reaction to the speech proved that there was no partner on the Palestinian side. Likud officials expressed confidence that Netanyahu's coalition would not be endangered by the speech.

A Sarid Institute poll broadcast on Channel 2 Tuesday night found that 38 percent of Israelis found Netanyahu most fit to be prime minister and 35% opposition leader Tzipi Livni. The poll found that the Likud had grown in support at Kadima's expense.

Since the last poll taken by the institute during a crisis over gas prices, Kadima fell by five seats and Likud rose by four. The poll found that if elections were held now, Likud would win 34 seats, Kadima 29, Israel Beiteinu 14, and Labor eight.
topper7788 Offline
#161 Posted:
Joined: 06-21-2006
Posts: 4,719
HockeyDad wrote:
Israeli politics rock! Nobody is ever happy with anything. From the Jerusalem Post:



PM's opponents on Left and Right urged him to stay in Washington, continue to receive nearly unanimous affirmation from US politicians,


Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu may have received 26 standing ovations from Senators and Congressmen during his speech to them on Tuesday but Knesset members from across the political spectrum were much tougher on him.

His political opponents on the Left and hard Right urged Netanyahu to stay in Washington, where he could continue to receive nearly unanimous affirmation from American politicians, with the exception of US President Barack Obama.

One of the only MKs who released a statement praising Netanyahu was Otniel Schneller of Kadima, who said the prime minister had succeeded in speaking for a consensus of Israelis. Schneller urged his faction to put politics aside in favor of the national interest.

But a Kadima spokesman accused Netanyahu of unnecessarily harming relations with the United States and said he would be judged by his actions and not his oratory capabilities. Kadima MK Yoel Hasson accused the prime minister of staging an election campaign from Washington.

"Netanyahu's speech to Congress was an election commercial," Hasson said. "It was an attempt by Netanyahu to present a false impression that he is willing to enter negotiations. The people of Israel should not be enticed and should understand that Netanyahu's policies will lead not only to international isolation, but also to a bi-national state."

"Netanyahu received the greatest applause when he said that Israel is the land of our forefathers and that Jerusalem will not be divided, so there was no need for him to declare that he is willing to give up large portions of our homeland to the Arabs," Ben-Ari's National Union colleague Aryeh Eldad said. "Saying that he is willing to abandon settlements will only encourage the Arabs to ask for more and we are liable to pay for this in blood."

Likud ministers Gideon Sa'ar, Limor Livnat and Yuli Edelstein praised Netanyahu for presenting Israel's case well. They said the Palestinian reaction to the speech proved that there was no partner on the Palestinian side. Likud officials expressed confidence that Netanyahu's coalition would not be endangered by the speech.

A Sarid Institute poll broadcast on Channel 2 Tuesday night found that 38 percent of Israelis found Netanyahu most fit to be prime minister and 35% opposition leader Tzipi Livni. The poll found that the Likud had grown in support at Kadima's expense.

Since the last poll taken by the institute during a crisis over gas prices, Kadima fell by five seats and Likud rose by four. The poll found that if elections were held now, Likud would win 34 seats, Kadima 29, Israel Beiteinu 14, and Labor eight.


Polititians playing at politics? Who would have thought? Personally I'm SHOCKED !!!

Thankfully this wouldn't happen here!!! LOL
DrMaddVibe Offline
#162 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
Netanyahu says will give up some land for peace

By Jeffrey Heller
1 hr 35 mins ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Israel is prepared to make "painful compromises" for peace with the Palestinians, including the handover of land they seek for a state, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Congress on Tuesday.

Palestinians swiftly dismissed the Israeli leader's terms for a deal as placing more obstacles in diplomacy's way, casting doubt as to whether frozen peace talks would resume anytime soon.

Netanyahu received frequent standing ovations in addressing the joint meeting of Congress, a bastion of support for Israel. The speech came after a testy exchange last week with President Barack Obama over the contours of a future Palestine and Netanyahu used it to reiterate his expectations ahead of any talks.

They included Palestinian recognition of Israel as the homeland of the Jewish people and the scrapping of Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' unity accord with the Islamist movement Hamas.

"Tear up your pact with Hamas. Sit down and negotiate. Make peace with the Jewish state," Netanyahu said.
"I am willing to make painful compromises to achieve this historical peace. As the leader of Israel, it is my responsibility," the right-wing leader said, echoing a pledge in a speech to Israel's parliament on May 15.
"Now this is not easy for me. It's not easy because I recognize that in a genuine peace we will be required to give up parts of the ancestral Jewish homeland," he said, referring to the occupied West Bank.

Netanyahu explicitly suggested for the first time that Israel would cede some Jewish settlements in the West Bank, although others would be annexed under any future agreement.

"In any peace agreement that ends the conflict, some settlements will end up beyond Israel's borders. The precise delineation of those borders must be negotiated," Netanyahu said.

'COMPROMISE MUST REFLECT DRAMATIC CHANGES'

Netanyahu said any "compromise must reflect the dramatic demographic changes that have occurred," referring to Israel's construction of hundreds of settlements on land Palestinians want for a state.

Repeating a message he has delivered consistently during a five-day visit to Washington, Netanyahu said "Israel will not return to the indefensible boundaries of 1967," narrow lines from before Israel captured the West Bank in a war 44 years ago.

Obama drew Israeli anger when he said on Thursday a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip should largely be drawn along the pre-1967 frontiers.

A frosty meeting with Netanyahu followed at the White House on Friday when the Israeli leader, with Obama sitting at his side, rejected those borders.

On Sunday, Obama seemed to ease Israeli anger by making clear Israel would likely be able to negotiate keeping some settlements as part of a land swap in any deal with the Palestinians.

The White House offered a low-key response to Netanyahu's speech. Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser, said in London that the Israeli leader had "reaffirmed the strength of the U.S.-Israeli relationship" and had "pointed to the importance of peace." Obama is visiting London.

Nabil Abu Rdainah, a spokesman for Abbas, said Netanyahu's vision for ending the conflict put "more obstacles" in front of the Middle East peace process.

"What came in Netanyahu's speech will not lead to peace," Rdainah said in the West Bank city of Ramallah, rejecting Netanyahu's call to hold onto swathes of West Bank land including East Jerusalem, where Palestinians want their capital.

Hani Masry, a Palestinian analyst said Netanyahu "wants the Palestinians to give up everything and get a state of leftovers."

On the other side, settler leaders and members from Netanyahu's own Likud party also voiced their objections, but with no diplomatic breakthrough in sight, his ruling coalition did not seem to be in jeopardy.

Netanyahu's address was greeted warmly by congressional leaders. Some Israelis pointed to that reception as a success while others thought he had not offered enough to break the diplomatic deadlock.

"What he's offering I don't think you would find even the most moderate Palestinians would buy into," David Newman, an Israeli political scientist, said. "He's offering a truncated West Bank. He wants to leave as many settlements as possible."

Netanyahu called on Palestinians to see their future "homeland," rather than Israel, as the place to resolve the issue of Palestinian refugees.

He again voiced opposition to a planned bid by the Palestinians to seek U.N. recognition of statehood in September in the absence of peace talks.

"Peace cannot be imposed," he said. "It must be negotiated."
HockeyDad Offline
#163 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
topper7788 wrote:
Polititians playing at politics? Who would have thought? Personally I'm SHOCKED !!!

Thankfully this wouldn't happen here!!! LOL




You would think they wouldn't play politics over such a life or death situation in the face of imminent war. I've been conditioned to believe the attack from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinians could come at any moment.

Perhaps there has been a slight exaggeration?

topper7788 Offline
#164 Posted:
Joined: 06-21-2006
Posts: 4,719
HockeyDad wrote:
You would think they wouldn't play politics over such a life or death situation in the face of imminent war. I've been conditioned to believe the attack from Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and the Palestinians could come at any moment.

Perhaps there has been a slight exaggeration?




Like I said, thankfully it would never happen here!!! (trying not to laugh)
wheelrite Offline
#165 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
topper7788 wrote:
Like I said, thankfully it would never happen here!!! (trying not to laugh)


Why has HD moderated his postings since his OP ???

fishinguitarman Offline
#166 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2006
Posts: 69,152
wheelrite wrote:
Why has HD moderated his postings since his OP ???







Puberty
HockeyDad Offline
#167 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
wheelrite wrote:
Why has HD moderated his postings since his OP ???





You made a compelling argument and Netanyahu offered nothing new. I accept your peace plan.
frankj1 Offline
#168 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,234
HockeyDad wrote:
You made a compelling argument and Netanyahu offered nothing new. I accept your peace plan.

please stop the idiotic pretense of Wheelrite suggesting what you have posted a thousand times.
frankj1 Offline
#169 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,234
HockeyDad wrote:
Israel fired first in the 1967 war. Israel attacked first in the 1967 war. Nothing I said was incorrect. If you launch a preemptive strike, you fired first. It is no big deal and doesn't even need any historical revision. It was a genius attack.

The key thing is Israel gained the West Bank from Jordan through peace treaty. Israel gained the Gaza Strip from Egypt through peace treaty. I'm on board with the Wheelrite One State Solution. My message to those in the West Bank and Gaza is "Welcome to Israel! Now assimilate."

Nobody else even offered a plan for a 2 state solution.

fired first is much different, given the circumstances of being under seige, than starting a war and you absolutely know the difference and the truth despite some nonsense that is written...you really do know the truth.
wheelrite Offline
#170 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
Netanyahu's speech today was a masterpiece.He is is a true leader that has a grasp of the real world situation.Not, some Ivory Tower Acacdemia crap.

His speech today will be be remembered as the time he educated America on the reality of the mid east.

Obama is dwarfed by BB
FuzzNJ Offline
#171 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
wheelrite wrote:
Netanyahu's speech today was a masterpiece.He is is a true leader that has a grasp of the real world situation.Not, some Ivory Tower Acacdemia crap.

His speech today will be be remembered as the time he educated America on the reality of the mid east.

Obama is dwarfed by BB


Yikes. That's taking a dislike of Obama and moving it to some serious anti-american bullsh*t right there.
wheelrite Offline
#172 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
FuzzNJ wrote:
Yikes. That's taking a dislike of Obama and moving it to some serious anti-american bullsh*t right there.


no,,,

Obama is truly a light weight.He seriously is not up to the task when it comes the Israel and Palestine.
FuzzNJ Offline
#173 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2006
Posts: 13,000
wheelrite wrote:
no,,,

Obama is truly a light weight.He seriously is not up to the task when it comes the Israel and Palestine.


Whatever you say.
HockeyDad Offline
#174 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
frankj1 wrote:
please stop the idiotic pretense of Wheelrite suggesting what you have posted a thousand times.



If you don't like Wheelrite's plan you are more than welcome to debate it and offer something that might be better.
HockeyDad Offline
#175 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
frankj1 wrote:
fired first is much different, given the circumstances of being under siege, than starting a war and you absolutely know the difference and the truth despite some nonsense that is written...you really do know the truth.




Israel first first and started that war. That history is pretty well established. I'm not sure why you feel the need to rewrite it.

HockeyDad Offline
#176 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
I am expecting another round of outrage based on the fact that Obama didn't stick around for Netanyahu's speech to congress and instead jetted off to Europe to have a Guinness and hang with the Brits and talk about our special relationship.

Netanyahu and Obama are both up for reelection and had to do what they did. Obama has the added pressure of trying to grab on to the "Arab Spring" upheaval and try to act like the USA is leading not following on that turmoil. The funny thing is that neither Obama or Netanyahu actually stated anything new.

My prediction......they both win!
rfenst Offline
#177 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,383
My overall impression is that since there are no ongoing impressions, Obama just repeated what PLO's demand is to try to get a dialogue going.

The real issue is Jerusalem and religious sites and each side's impression of what G-D said to them. Christians, Jews and Muslims have rights to access their holly sites. Unless Jerusalem UN puts troops on the ground with real authority to fight (not even possible!)- the world issue or at least they American Jewish and Religious right Christians would likely prefer Israel to retain majority of control

All the rest, other than military security for Israel and is no increased, potentially hostile borders, being increased (contiguity between West Bank and Gaza).

Israel will never go for a one state Solution. Neither will Palestinians. Non-starter already beat to death x10 by HockeyDad.
HockeyDad Offline
#178 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
rfenst wrote:


Israel will never go for a one state Solution. Neither will Palestinians. Non-starter already beat to death x10 by HockeyDad.



So now that I'm on board with Wheelrite's solution, you tell me it is a non-starter?

Jesus H Christ!
teedubbya Offline
#179 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
Ive been staying out of this one because I really don't know enough about it. It has been an interesting thread and I have learned a bit....albiet some of it may not be accurate or at a minimum presented through a biased filter.

Near as I can tell nothing has happened.

The big O didn't say anything earth shattering and those who dislike him still do. They see his speech as something horrifying like bowing to the chinks/japs or giving the queen an ipod. (side note - I'm confused because during the last admin we decided we didn't care what the world thought about us, and now we aparantly do). Some say the jews should finally realize the dems hate them (there is a bit of irony given the black/jew relationship/stereotype...ala heimetown and JJ). Interesting dynamic there. The big O lovers for the most part are still ok with the dolt.

In reality, it was a nothing speech with no action/teeth. big ben didn't say anything new either. Those entranched in the anti-obama (and some big o folks that are especially strong Israel supporters) cheer it loudly and see it as ben showing the O the what for. It is also a weird dynamic when Americans start cheering and hoping foriegn leaders, and recently arab news outlets, will chastise our Prez and by extention US. Very weird. That used to piss us off at them, not at ourselves.

If this was a chess game no peice would have been moved and we would still be waiting for the timer to go off. And the grass would keep growing.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#180 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
...and Leon is getting LARGER!!!whip
HockeyDad Offline
#181 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
teedubbya wrote:
Ive been staying out of this one because I really don't know enough about it. It has been an interesting thread and I have learned a bit....albiet some of it may not be accurate or at a minimum presented through a biased filter.

Near as I can tell nothing has happened.

The big O didn't say anything earth shattering and those who dislike him still do. They see his speech as something horrifying like bowing to the chinks/japs or giving the queen an ipod. (side note - I'm confused because during the last admin we decided we didn't care what the world thought about us, and now we aparantly do). Some say the jews should finally realize the dems hate them (there is a bit of irony given the black/jew relationship/stereotype...ala heimetown and JJ). Interesting dynamic there. The big O lovers for the most part are still ok with the dolt.

In reality, it was a nothing speech with no action/teeth. big ben didn't say anything new either. Those entranched in the anti-obama (and some big o folks that are especially strong Israel supporters) cheer it loudly and see it as ben showing the O the what for. It is also a weird dynamic when Americans start cheering and hoping foriegn leaders, and recently arab news outlets, will chastise our Prez and by extention US. Very weird. That used to piss us off at them, not at ourselves.

If this was a chess game no peice would have been moved and we would still be waiting for the timer to go off. And the grass would keep growing.





Pretty good summary. The only thing missing is the fact that a tornado knocked the whole outrage way off the front page and it won't make it back. Deservedly so.
teedubbya Offline
#182 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
HockeyDad wrote:
Pretty good summary. The only thing missing is the fact that a tornado knocked the whole outrage way off the front page and it won't make it back. Deservedly so.


Just got back from an hour and a half trip to the shelter myself. it's now headed north towards my home.
DrafterX Offline
#183 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,566
bummer..... has been a bad week for storms.... stay safe...
teedubbya Offline
#184 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
DrafterX wrote:
bummer..... has been a bad week for storms.... stay safe...


My youngest has two more days of school then she moves from an ancient rickety old school on a slab to a much safer building. Just got a text from the principal and they are huddled in the cafeteria.
DrafterX Offline
#185 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,566
that's good... they used to make us just crawl under our desks... didn't really feel any safer doing that... could still see the big wall of glass bending and stuff...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#186 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
DrafterX wrote:
that's good... they used to make us just crawl under our desks... didn't really feel any safer doing that... could still see the big wall of glass bending and stuff...



Stay away from the brown acid
HockeyDad Offline
#187 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
DrafterX wrote:
that's good... they used to make us just crawl under our desks... didn't really feel any safer doing that... could still see the big wall of glass bending and stuff...




Crawling under desks is better suited for protection from a nuclear attack.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#188 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
I don't think Lewinsky was doing a nuclear drill!Frying pan
teedubbya Offline
#189 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
DrMaddVibe wrote:
I don't think Lewinsky was doing a nuclear drill!Frying pan


No but I bet Clinton wanted to give her the nuclear drill
DrMaddVibe Offline
#190 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,528
Wanted to?

Well that would depend on what his defination of is...iswhip
HockeyDad Offline
#191 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,169
There definitely was fallout.
DrafterX Offline
#192 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,566
prolly should have been some pull-out too.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#193 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
DrafterX wrote:
prolly should have been some pull-out too.... Mellow



nah. if he left it in the blue dress would have had no evidence
DrafterX Offline
#194 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,566
teedubbya wrote:
nah. if he left it in the blue dress would have had no evidence




you're assuming this only happened once.... Mellow
Kawak Offline
#195 Posted:
Joined: 11-26-2007
Posts: 4,025
Instead of throwing Isreal under a bus can't he just throw rocks like all good Muslim children are taught?
Users browsing this topic
Guest
4 Pages<1234