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DrafterX Offline
#101 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:06 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Again, choice is conscious and active and requires thought as the word implies consideration of more than one option. An unconscious action one has no choice, one just does. So I am saying that there is no such thing as an unconscious choice.



so, it's not your fault you're gay..?? Huh
HockeyDad Offline
#102 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:07 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
I thought it was hormonal or anxiety/stress and some regular functions are followed or the brain, unconsciously makes a choice as to what to do... surely any psychologist or something like that would know this, and be able to expand on it.



Apparently it is pre-programed in the nervous system through evolution as it is a trait that allowed us to live longer, it's innate in our autonaumic nervous system, the stuff our bodies do unconsciously.

It is odd that we've evolved a trait that allows us to live longer yet also evolved a trait (the gay) that eliminates our ability to reproduce and maintain the survival of the species.
ZRX1200 Offline
#103 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:07 PM EST
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So poor people have made a choice.
HockeyDad Offline
#104 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:07 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
so, it's not your fault you're gay..?? Huh




There is the 800 lb gorilla everyone was trying to ignore!!!!
Nicar Offline
#105 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:10 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Again, choice is conscious and active and requires thought as the word implies consideration of more than one option. An unconscious action one has no choice, one just does. So I am saying that there is no such thing as an unconscious choice.


Is there such a thing as unconscious decision?

You would also further say that there is nothing subliminal? That you always have to be aware of something and hence, subliminal cannot exsist?
FuzzNJ Offline
#106 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:10 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Apparently it is pre-programed in the nervous system through evolution as it is a trait that allowed us to live longer, it's innate in our autonaumic nervous system, the stuff our bodies do unconsciously.

It is odd that we've evolved a trait that allows us to live longer yet also evolved a trait (the gay) that eliminates our ability to reproduce and maintain the survival of the species.


I'm sure there is quite a lot people could and do consider odd. But being gay doesn't eliminate the species ability to reproduce at all, unless all are gay.
Nicar Offline
#107 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:12 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
So poor people have made a choice.



Yes, they indirectly made the choice to be poor! By being lazy and such, this was their choice.. or to chose not to learn sufficient skills... or to have chosen no other way to not be poor! Or by chosing to be married to a skanky b!tch... or to chose to invest in Enron
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#108 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:15 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Yes, they indirectly made the choice to be poor! By being lazy and such, this was their choice.. or to chose not to learn sufficient skills... or to have chosen no other way to not be poor! Or by chosing to be married to a skanky b!tch... or to chose to invest in Enron




but what about the poor children..?? nobody ever thinks about the poor children.... Sad
HockeyDad Offline
#109 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:15 PM EST
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Maybe people are genetically inclined to be poor.
FuzzNJ Offline
#110 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:18 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Is there such a thing as unconscious decision?

You would also further say that there is nothing subliminal? That you always have to be aware of something and hence, subliminal cannot exsist?


Now you are bringing in more and different terminology. Subliminal is completely different, but I would say decision is the same as choice. So no, there is no such thing as an unconscious decision and/or choice, but there are reactions.

Subliminal is a stimuli that may trigger you to do a certain action. But I don't put all that much stock in subliminal targeting that would cause a person to make a choice against their will. I do think that certain stimuli can trigger memories though, like the smell of a perfume, a song, etc.
DrafterX Offline
#111 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:20 PM EST
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or waterboarding..... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#112 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:22 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Now you are bringing in more and different terminology. Subliminal is completely different, but I would say decision is the same as choice. So no, there is no such thing as an unconscious decision and/or choice, but there are reactions.

Subliminal is a stimuli that may trigger you to do a certain action. But I don't put all that much stock in subliminal targeting that would cause a person to make a choice against their will. I do think that certain stimuli can trigger memories though, like the smell of a perfume, a song, etc.




He just tricked you into answering using the Socratic method.

WYLD STALLYNS!
FuzzNJ Offline
#113 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:25 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
He just tricked you into answering using the Socratic method.

WYLD STALLYNS!


He did use the socratic method. Tricked?
Nicar Offline
#114 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:27 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Now you are bringing in more and different terminology. Subliminal is completely different, but I would say decision is the same as choice. So no, there is no such thing as an unconscious decision and/or choice, but there are reactions.

Subliminal is a stimuli that may trigger you to do a certain action. But I don't put all that much stock in subliminal targeting that would cause a person to make a choice against their will. I do think that certain stimuli can trigger memories though, like the smell of a perfume, a song, etc.



Stimuli to make you do something... so you're saying people are being made against their will... their choice.. to do things?

Also, subliminal cannot be anything that is not either seen or heard... it's not like playing a record backwards.. it has to actually be there, might be a split second, but your brain, subconscious can pick it up. If that stimulates you into doing an action, to do something.. isn't that unconsciously make a choice?
DrafterX Offline
#115 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:29 PM EST
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you can still refuse to go buy a hotdog and popcorn at the theatre.... Mellow
Nicar Offline
#116 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:31 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
you can still refuse to go buy a hotdog and popcorn at the theatre.... Mellow


If you dont consciously say no.. are you refusing? Would you refuse to do so for a poor child?
HockeyDad Offline
#117 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:32 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Tricked?



Perhaps?
DrafterX Offline
#118 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:35 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
If you dont consciously say no.. are you refusing? Would you refuse to do so for a poor child?



look man... I don't mind buying a poor kid some popcorn or fixing her car... but I'm not going gay-homo for nobody... Not talking
Nicar Offline
#119 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:37 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
look man... I don't mind buying a poor kid some popcorn or fixing her car... but I'm not going gay-homo for nobody... Not talking



Not even for a "hot dog" LOL
DrafterX Offline
#120 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:40 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Not even for a "hot dog" LOL



no way man... Not talking Not talking
Nicar Offline
#121 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 4:46 PM EST
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Guess anyone can make or not make the choice they want or dont know that they are making.

Cause and affect ya know...
FuzzNJ Offline
#122 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 5:19 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Stimuli to make you do something... so you're saying people are being made against their will... their choice.. to do things?

Also, subliminal cannot be anything that is not either seen or heard... it's not like playing a record backwards.. it has to actually be there, might be a split second, but your brain, subconscious can pick it up. If that stimulates you into doing an action, to do something.. isn't that unconsciously make a choice?


No, I actually said the exact opposite of that. "But I don't put all that much stock in subliminal targeting that would cause a person to make a choice against their will. I do think that certain stimuli can trigger memories though, like the smell of a perfume, a song, etc."

But your second paragraph that is what you are saying, and I do not agree. The example you gave, a backwards record, is nothing and has not shown that it causes anyone to do anything against their free will.
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#123 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 5:49 PM EST
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Reread it a bit... i said the backwords recorddoes not work... one must actually see it or hear it, even for a split second. The brain or subconscious must pick it up.
ZRX1200 Offline
#124 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 5:51 PM EST
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These are not the droids you're looking for.......
FuzzNJ Offline
#125 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 6:57 PM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Reread it a bit... i said the backwords recorddoes not work... one must actually see it or hear it, even for a split second. The brain or subconscious must pick it up.


Ok then, we agree. I was in a hurry earlier and misread.

Edit: Maybe we don't agree. Do you think subliminal stimuli can cause a person to perform an action without making a choice or against their will?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#126 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 8:03 PM EST
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HockeyDad 102


"
'It is odd that we've evolved a trait that allows us to live
longer yet also evolved a trait (the gay) that eliminates
our ability to reproduce and maintain the survival of the
species."

WE HAVE NO TRAIT THAT ALLOWS US TO LIVE LONGER. ADNVANCES IN MEDICAL
TECHNIQUE. AND DRUGS TO WARD OFF DISEASE HAVE INFLUENCED OUR INCREASE
IN LIFE EXPECTANCY. WITHOUT THE DRUGS AND THE INOCULATIONS MANY OF US
WOULD BE DEAD FROM CHILDHOOD DISEASE LIKE SCARLET FEVER, MEASELS AND
THE INFAMOUS POLIO.

PEOPLE THAT USED TO DIE FROM CARDIAC FISEASE, LIVE THROUGH HEART ATTACKS
AND LIVE LONGER BECAUSE OF BY PASS SURGERY.

GOD MUST LOVE GAYS, HE MAKES SO MANY OF THEM.


YOU ARE ASSUMING WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTENT SPECIE ON THE PLANET.

WE ARE THE SPECIE THAT HAS DESTROYED MORE SPECIE THEN ANY OTHER SPECIE.

The Passenger Pigeon or Wild Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius) is an extinct bird that
existed in North America and lived in enormous migratory flocks until the early 20th
century. One sighting in 1866 in southern Ontario was described as being 1 mile wide, 300
miles long, and taking 14 hours to pass a single point with number estimates in excess of
3.5 billion birds in the flock. That number, if accurate, would likely represent a large
fraction of the entire population at the time/ CAN YOU IMAGINE WE DESTROYED ALL OF
THEM.
Nicar Offline
#127 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 8:21 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
HockeyDad 102


"
'It is odd that we've evolved a trait that allows us to live
longer yet also evolved a trait (the gay) that eliminates
our ability to reproduce and maintain the survival of the
species."

WE HAVE NO TRAIT THAT ALLOWS US TO LIVE LONGER. ADNVANCES IN MEDICAL
TECHNIQUE. AND DRUGS TO WARD OFF DISEASE HAVE INFLUENCED OUR INCREASE
IN LIFE EXPECTANCY. WITHOUT THE DRUGS AND THE INOCULATIONS MANY OF US
WOULD BE DEAD FROM CHILDHOOD DISEASE LIKE SCARLET FEVER, MEASELS AND
THE INFAMOUS POLIO.

PEOPLE THAT USED TO DIE FROM CARDIAC FISEASE, LIVE THROUGH HEART ATTACKS
AND LIVE LONGER BECAUSE OF BY PASS SURGERY.

GOD MUST LOVE GAYS, HE MAKES SO MANY OF THEM.


YOU ARE ASSUMING WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTENT SPECIE ON THE PLANET.

WE ARE THE SPECIE THAT HAS DESTROYED MORE SPECIE THEN ANY OTHER SPECIE.

The Passenger Pigeon or Wild Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius) is an extinct bird that
existed in North America and lived in enormous migratory flocks until the early 20th
century. One sighting in 1866 in southern Ontario was described as being 1 mile wide, 300
miles long, and taking 14 hours to pass a single point with number estimates in excess of
3.5 billion birds in the flock. That number, if accurate, would likely represent a large
fraction of the entire population at the time/ CAN YOU IMAGINE WE DESTROYED ALL OF
THEM.


Guess they didn't adapt and survive.... so much for evolution...survival of the fittest? Did they taste good with bacon wrapped around them?
wheelrite Offline
#128 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 8:35 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
HockeyDad 102


"
'It is odd that we've evolved a trait that allows us to live
longer yet also evolved a trait (the gay) that eliminates
our ability to reproduce and maintain the survival of the
species."

WE HAVE NO TRAIT THAT ALLOWS US TO LIVE LONGER. ADNVANCES IN MEDICAL
TECHNIQUE. AND DRUGS TO WARD OFF DISEASE HAVE INFLUENCED OUR INCREASE
IN LIFE EXPECTANCY. WITHOUT THE DRUGS AND THE INOCULATIONS MANY OF US
WOULD BE DEAD FROM CHILDHOOD DISEASE LIKE SCARLET FEVER, MEASELS AND
THE INFAMOUS POLIO.

PEOPLE THAT USED TO DIE FROM CARDIAC FISEASE, LIVE THROUGH HEART ATTACKS
AND LIVE LONGER BECAUSE OF BY PASS SURGERY.

GOD MUST LOVE GAYS, HE MAKES SO MANY OF THEM.


YOU ARE ASSUMING WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTENT SPECIE ON THE PLANET.

WE ARE THE SPECIE THAT HAS DESTROYED MORE SPECIE THEN ANY OTHER SPECIE.

The Passenger Pigeon or Wild Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius) is an extinct bird that
existed in North America and lived in enormous migratory flocks until the early 20th
century. One sighting in 1866 in southern Ontario was described as being 1 mile wide, 300
miles long, and taking 14 hours to pass a single point with number estimates in excess of
3.5 billion birds in the flock. That number, if accurate, would likely represent a large
fraction of the entire population at the time/ CAN YOU IMAGINE WE DESTROYED ALL OF
THEM.



What is Cardiac Fisease?
A Kosher dish ?
ZRX1200 Offline
#129 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 9:07 PM EST
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Thanks Rick, for naming an animal I will never get to eat....jerk!

We call pigeons "hobo chickens".
DadZilla3 Offline
#130 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 9:12 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
WE ARE THE SPECIE THAT HAS DESTROYED MORE SPECIE THEN ANY OTHER SPECIE.

Nature seems to get that job done just fine all on its own, way before we came along and started driving diesel SUV's all over the virgin rainforests...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous%E2%80%93Tertiary_extinction_event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triassic%E2%80%93Jurassic_extinction_event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian%E2%80%93Triassic_extinction_event
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Devonian_extinction
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordovician%E2%80%93Silurian_extinction_event

Something like 98% of all the species that ever lived have become extinct.

Sh*t happens.
HockeyDad Offline
#131 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 9:35 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
HockeyDad 102


"
'It is odd that we've evolved a trait that allows us to live
longer yet also evolved a trait (the gay) that eliminates
our ability to reproduce and maintain the survival of the
species."

WE HAVE NO TRAIT THAT ALLOWS US TO LIVE LONGER. ADNVANCES IN MEDICAL
TECHNIQUE. AND DRUGS TO WARD OFF DISEASE HAVE INFLUENCED OUR INCREASE
IN LIFE EXPECTANCY. WITHOUT THE DRUGS AND THE INOCULATIONS MANY OF US
WOULD BE DEAD FROM CHILDHOOD DISEASE LIKE SCARLET FEVER, MEASELS AND
THE INFAMOUS POLIO.

PEOPLE THAT USED TO DIE FROM CARDIAC FISEASE, LIVE THROUGH HEART ATTACKS
AND LIVE LONGER BECAUSE OF BY PASS SURGERY.

GOD MUST LOVE GAYS, HE MAKES SO MANY OF THEM.


YOU ARE ASSUMING WE ARE THE MOST IMPORTENT SPECIE ON THE PLANET.

WE ARE THE SPECIE THAT HAS DESTROYED MORE SPECIE THEN ANY OTHER SPECIE.

The Passenger Pigeon or Wild Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius) is an extinct bird that
existed in North America and lived in enormous migratory flocks until the early 20th
century. One sighting in 1866 in southern Ontario was described as being 1 mile wide, 300
miles long, and taking 14 hours to pass a single point with number estimates in excess of
3.5 billion birds in the flock. That number, if accurate, would likely represent a large
fraction of the entire population at the time/ CAN YOU IMAGINE WE DESTROYED ALL OF
THEM.



YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR ARGUMENT UP WITH FUZZNJ.
HockeyDad Offline
#132 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 9:40 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:


WE ARE THE SPECIE THAT HAS DESTROYED MORE SPECIE THEN ANY OTHER SPECIE.




SCOREBOARD BITCHES, WE WON!
FuzzNJ Offline
#133 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 9:42 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
YOU NEED TO TAKE YOUR ARGUMENT UP WITH FUZZNJ.


/backs away slowly
wheelrite Offline
#134 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 9:51 PM EST
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Boobs Extends Male Life by 5 Years
By Riyad Kalla on December 2, 2007


The best German researcher ever has published in the New England Journal of Medicine that a study including 200 health men over 5 years, including 3 separate hospitals, has concluded that men looking at “busty women” for 10mins every day, will extend their lifespan by 5 years.

The actual statistics are surprising, as it’s said to be equal to 30-min of aerboic excercise:

“Just 10 minutes of staring at the charms of a well-endowed female such as Baywatch actress Pamela Lee is equivalent to a 30-minute aerobics work-out,” said author Dr. Karen Weatherby, a gerontologist.

The key seems to be from lower blood pressure and lower resting pulse rate… oh yea, and BOOBS. The other reason Weatherby is my new hero is her following suggestion for men over 40:

…Weatherby, who even recommended that men aged over 40 should spend at least 10 minutes daily admiring breasts sized “D-cup” or larger.

Keep in mind, this is different from the study done years ago that say having a pet cat or dog lowers your blood pressure and makes your healthier. The trick here is that looking at large breasts ups your blood pressure, gets your cardio system going and equates to 30mins worth of workout (for being sexually arouse by boobs for 10mins).

So no need to get rid of the cat just yet so you can justify your obsessive subscription to Playboy and Barnfun magazine
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#135 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 10:06 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
.

The Passenger Pigeon or Wild Pigeon (Ectopistes migratorius) is an extinct bird that
existed in North America and lived in enormous migratory flocks until the early 20th
century. One sighting in 1866 in southern Ontario was described as being 1 mile wide, 300
miles long, and taking 14 hours to pass a single point with number estimates in excess of
3.5 billion birds in the flock. That number, if accurate, would likely represent a large
fraction of the entire population at the time/ CAN YOU IMAGINE WE DESTROYED ALL OF
THEM.



CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING TO CLEAN ALL THAT PIGEON POOP OFF OF YOUR UNPAINTED HOUSE?!! BE THANKFUL FOR LITTLE THINGS.
FuzzNJ Offline
#136 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 10:17 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING TO CLEAN ALL THAT PIGEON POOP OFF OF YOUR UNPAINTED HOUSE?!! BE THANKFUL FOR LITTLE THINGS.


Dude, it would be painted at that point.
gringococolo Offline
#137 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 10:26 PM EST
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I didn't read the whole thread but who suggested that gay's taste better with bacon wrapped around them?
FuzzNJ Offline
#138 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 10:40 PM EST
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gringococolo wrote:
I didn't read the whole thread but who suggested that gay's taste better with bacon wrapped around them?


Dude, EVERYTHING tastes better with bacon.
nnightmar Offline
#139 Posted: Wed, Jun 1 2011, 11:06 PM EST
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Current crop reminds me of the Dems class of 88! Unmitigated disaster. Like rubernecking at the accident on the freeway. You really don't wanna look but you just can't help it...
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#140 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 12:07 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Dude, it would be painted at that point.


Okay... Now THAT made me laugh!!!!
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#141 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 3:53 AM EST
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wheelrite

obviously disease mispellef
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#142 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 4:07 AM EST
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dpnewell

who are you and what about my unpainted house bothers you.

it was painted when it was built in 1950 and the paint was guaranteed for life.

i'm still alive.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#143 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 6:26 AM EST
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WATERBOARD PIGEONS!!!
wheelrite Offline
#144 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 6:31 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
dpnewell

who are you and what about my unpainted house bothers you.

it was painted when it was built in 1950 and the paint was guaranteed for life.

i'm still alive.


Jello in the day Room !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#145 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 6:33 AM EST
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CODE BROWN IN THE HALL!!!


CODE BROWN IN THE HALL!!!
Nicar Offline
#146 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 7:57 AM EST
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Can one make in unconscious choice,after looking at boobs with subliminal messages for 10 minutes to eat some bacon wrapped carrier pigeons? And no BS about a definitive no because they are extinct since they were not fit to survive... even with 3.5 billion of them. Better learned to adapt!
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#147 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 8:07 AM EST
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Confused

I see pigeons all the time.... you guys need to get out more.... Mellow
Nicar Offline
#148 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 8:35 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Confused

I see pigeons all the time.... you guys need to get out more.... Mellow



Oh really? Passenger pigeons? You must not live in North America according to Rick... cause, they're extinct according to his vast research!
HockeyDad Offline
#149 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 9:26 AM EST
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Nicar wrote:
Oh really? Passenger pigeons? You must not live in North America according to Rick... cause, they're extinct according to his vast research!



Passenger pigeons......


NOBODY RIDES FOR FREE OUTRAGE!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#150 Posted: Thu, Jun 2 2011, 9:28 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Confused

I see pigeons all the time.... you guys need to get out more.... Mellow



African or European?Frying pan
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