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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, May 28 2011, 11:07 PM EST
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248


70 % more or less of the country do not want to change
either medicare of social security. the republicans blew
district 26 in new york and elected a democrat for the
first time in 70+ years and had to spend a ton of money
to accomplish failure.

what drives them into such idiotic behaviour. they are
either stupid or so intrenched in their ideology, they
can't think rationally.

nothing they are working onhas anything to do with
helping the country recover from the financial collapse
caused by the rich trying to get richer.

if you give a "middle class" family an extra couple of
hundred bucks, every month, the money would be
circulating through the economy. if you give a wealthy
family a couple of thousand extra each month, since
they can afford to live comfortably on what they had
available, it would not cause them to spend any of that
extra money.

now the republicans are heavily into women's vaginas,
attempting to eliminate roe vs wade. part of the country
like the idea of eliminating abortions.

they are called christians and they have no business
telling other people what to do.i

i am glad i never had to face the abortion problem, but i
wouldn't want any input from anyone but my wife, and
not people who think people lived alongside dinosaurs.

sarah is now trying to fill the sarahpac bank balance so
she can steal more money from you religious schmucks

the tea party has had it's day. they played in the major
league and couldn't hit a curve.

when president obama wins his second term he will
have both houses and only his good graciousness will
prevent him from telling the republicans to STFU, no one
is interested in their self destrucion.

i hope ensign does time and his "adviser" coburn gets
thrown out on his a s s.

scott whatever, governor of florida, if he is handed a
recall petition will loose the recall and allen grayson will
take his place as governor of florida. they will lose an
idealogue to be replaced by some one with a three digit
iq,

now you all can show me how smart you all are by talking
like a bunch of dumb a s s e s instead of trying to refute
anything i have said.

very truly yours,
rick miller

ps celebrate decoration day properly by cleaning and
decorating the grave of a veteran who died
in the service of his/her country
jackconrad Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, May 28 2011, 11:13 PM EST
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Guliani will run and crush OBAMA..
schusler Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, May 28 2011, 11:19 PM EST
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jackconrad wrote:
Guliani will run and crush OBAMA..

who the hell is Guliani






























Sarcasm
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, May 28 2011, 11:49 PM EST
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schusler

jack is funnin you.
donutboy2000 Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, May 28 2011, 11:54 PM EST
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Why are the



Democrats trying




to destroy




America?
elk hunter Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 12:20 AM EST
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You know Rick, I am religious and registered as a Republican... I hate abortion... However, I absolutely do not have the right to tell someone else what they can or cannot do with their body...

I do not agree with most of what the Republicans are doing, and I agree with nothing the Democrats are doing...

I believe that you take care of your own house, if someone else needs help, extend a hand up.... I also believe that what happens on your side of the fence is your business, and what happens on my side is mine.... Too many people are worried about controlling what the other guy is doing and not tending to their own business, exactly what is going on in the Government...

You should step back and take a look at yourself Rick... These posts make you look ridiculous, from the colored font, to the off the wall things you post...

I am but a lowly mechanic Rick who busts my knuckles and my tail to earn a living... I see how much goes out to support public programs, and frankly Rick, it pisses me off...

I take offense to the generalization, and term religious schmucks...

Why is it that you and others that think like yourself have to call names and belittle other people to get by? Is it because you don't have the substance of whipped cream? Or maybe you are just so far more intelligent than the rest of us that we just don't get it... I would be willing to believe you believe it is the latter don't you Rick...
chiefburg Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 12:40 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
You know Rick, I am religious and registered as a Republican... I hate abortion... However, I absolutely do not have the right to tell someone else what they can or cannot do with their body...

I do not agree with most of what the Republicans are doing, and I agree with nothing the Democrats are doing...

I believe that you take care of your own house, if someone else needs help, extend a hand up.... I also believe that what happens on your side of the fence is your business, and what happens on my side is mine.... Too many people are worried about controlling what the other guy is doing and not tending to their own business, exactly what is going on in the Government...

You should step back and take a look at yourself Rick... These posts make you look ridiculous, from the colored font, to the off the wall things you post...

I am but a lowly mechanic Rick who busts my knuckles and my tail to earn a living... I see how much goes out to support public programs, and frankly Rick, it pisses me off...

I take offense to the generalization, and term religious schmucks...

Why is it that you and others that think like yourself have to call names and belittle other people to get by? Is it because you don't have the substance of whipped cream? Or maybe you are just so far more intelligent than the rest of us that we just don't get it... I would be willing to believe you believe it is the latter don't you Rick...


Ditto for the most part. And, Rick is one of those religious schmucks he speaks - just not mainstream Bible-belt type.

And, I have difficulty agreeing with either the libs or the conservatives right now. I think both have officially gone off the deep end and are pursuing THEIR own interests, not ours. It's a pissing contest to see who can out-stupid the other and I'm not sure who is winning right now.

I find it sad that I have to feel this away about my country.......
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 9:45 AM EST
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elk hunter

did you agree when the democrats raised the minimum wage?

did you agree when the democrats threw out "don't ask, don't tell.?

do you wonder why we are the only industrialized nation on the planet does not offer medical care to
all it's citizens?

i don't believe you are one of the religious schmucks, but my reference doesn't sound like you are
in the group i generalized.

i don't know about others. but calling a group of religious schmucks by my title, is mild compared
to what i have been called and pointed to a specific group. remember it isn't libel if it is true.

you are free to take offense at anything you feel is offensive, you do not need anyone's permission.

why would you demean yourself because you think you are a lowly mechanic., when i need a
mechanic, he is a god, because he can fix my problem.

how much goes out to support public programs and how much either goes out or doesn't come in
to provide support for corporations that make lots of money and do not pay their share of taxes.
are you offended by general electric a corporation that pays nothing to support the country where
it makes it'sw profit.

i look forward to hearing more from you, but i still have to put up with people like poster #5, who
has nothing to say.
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 12:42 PM EST
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GE owns MSNBC and the White House!!!!!

All welfare should end, corporate as well. Get outta the way and let this nation be what it can.

Rick......many here have lots of issues with our "party" and would agree with some of what you say. And feel free to call any names you feel necessary, it adds to your legend. My crazy uncle.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 12:56 PM EST
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ZRX1200

thank you from your crazy uncle rick.
elk hunter Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 1:29 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
elk hunter

did you agree when the democrats raised the minimum wage?

did you agree when the democrats threw out "don't ask, don't tell.?

do you wonder why we are the only industrialized nation on the planet does not offer medical care to
all it's citizens?

i don't believe you are one of the religious schmucks, but my reference doesn't sound like you are
in the group i generalized.

i don't know about others. but calling a group of religious schmucks by my title, is mild compared
to what i have been called and pointed to a specific group. remember it isn't libel if it is true.

you are free to take offense at anything you feel is offensive, you do not need anyone's permission.

why would you demean yourself because you think you are a lowly mechanic., when i need a
mechanic, he is a god, because he can fix my problem.

how much goes out to support public programs and how much either goes out or doesn't come in
to provide support for corporations that make lots of money and do not pay their share of taxes.
are you offended by general electric a corporation that pays nothing to support the country where
it makes it'sw profit.

i look forward to hearing more from you, but i still have to put up with people like poster #5, who
has nothing to say.



#1. Nope, minimum wage should not be a living wage, but a starting point to grow out of. Don't care if the Dems or Rep did it...

#2. I believe that your preference is you business. Keep it to yourself. The only reason for someone to say LOOK AT ME I AM GAY!!!! is to gain something from it. I have no problem with someone who chooses to be gay, just don't expect to get ahead BECAUSE you are gay... Get there on merit...

#3. Rick, the real problem is the price of medical care and insurance no? If it was affordable, we wouldn't have to "offer" it as an entitlement now would we? Usually you get a better product if you pay for it yourself rather than someone else paying for it for you...

#4. Don't generalize...

#5. So, because somebody else does it, you should do it? Two wrongs don't make a right Rick...

#6. You are correct, I can take offense to anything that offends me... I try and live my life as not to step on toes or offend...

#7. It was a little sarcasm... I take pride in my work. I work with my father in a business that has been around since 1952. I don't want to be referenced to as God... I am NOT and would never claim to be...

#8. Too much goes out to support the un-needy... Those truly in need I have no problem with... You want to make vilify Corporations... I never understood why we are punished for working. We should tax on expenditures not income. From what I understand, GE makes MOST of it's money overseas and pays taxes to those countries because GE is smart enough to do most of it's business in countries more business friendly than the U.S so no, it does not offend me that they payed no taxes... Again Rick, worry about yourself... If you want to be rich and get all of the "tax breaks" then go be rich...

Rick, there is a lot of joking and some jabbing that goes on here. Some do it just to get under other's skin, and some are just being funny... In my opinion, the Dems are just as guilty as the Reps at destroying America.

At the end of the day, you and I will more than likely not agree with each other, nor will we be able to change one another's mind or way of thinking.

Beer
topper7788 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 1:29 PM EST
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Rick, the problem with your post is of course your post! It is basically impossible to have a rational debate over almost any issue here because basically nobody wants too.. Your posts are basicaly rants, which of course will be replied to as such.. People here on the right don't want to hear people's views from the left etc etc.. And visa versa... So basically almost all political posts here turn into this

I happen to agree with you that the Republican party is heading for a train wreck if they don't put a a plan on Midicare and Social Security that will fly with people over 50. All anyone has to do is look at the population mix. What I don't understand is why the Republicans are not addressing this. And if they are CLEARLY explaining it. As a 57 year old Republican I can say i could be voting for democratic candidates for the first time in 30 plus years if the party keeps on this course. I 100% agree both Social Securiy and Medicare need to be addressed, but a plan must be done that will actually work for both the young and the people closer to retirement. You change the game in the 8th inning and expect people to buy into it.. A viable plan would probably be someting like anyone over 55 is grandfathered into the current program, people 50 to 55 probably should have a choice of the new program or say 75 to 85% of the old program and those under 50 I guess will be stuck with the new program.. You just can't have what you cant pay for... But if the people closer to retirement are not addressed there will clearly be voter push back. I guess the popular political speak would be to say it's a 3rd rail issue. Scare older Americans with the fear of cutting their benefits, and they simply are going to vote for the party that says they won't. While many here will post a long winded rant how selfish this is etc... Basically it is what it is.. And everyone knows it or certainly should

I really have no idea what the fuss is with Rick Scott? He is doing EXACTLY what he said he would. while I agree that some of what he is doing is probably wrong, he is just taking the business approach that says yon can't spend what you dont have! I guess many of the people are upset with him just didn't listen to what he said prior to being elected...There are no surprises here...

Sorry for the attempt of a rational reply, and I know I should have just done what I usually do which is to read, snicker, and just jump over to another board.. But hey I'm bored..
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, May 29 2011, 5:06 PM EST
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It sounds like the Republicans hit one of their baseballs onto Rick's yard and he's not going to return it.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 2:46 AM EST
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elk hunter

2. being gay is genitic like brown eyes. it is not a
choice. if you don't know that, you are starting with
information that is wrong and anything that follows would
not be a conclusion that you should learn about it.

3. are you not aware that i pay for medicare monthly? i
also pay for a supplement because medicare coveaa rs
only 80% of the medicare charge and the doctor is free
to bill whatever he feels his skills are worth, but he has
to accept a preagreed value that medicare has for any
service.

i also have to pay for any supleemental insurance for
coverage that is not paid for by medicare.

both toby and i have reached the age, as you will if you
have a long life, that parts are wearing out and need
medicines to keep the parts in good working order or
replace them.

8. how have you determined the amount of money that is
payed to the un-needy?

it is not necessary for either of us to convince the other
to accept our personal point of view. what we should do
is try to understand the other's point of view and
negotiate something that can satisfy as much as
possible both of our needs and wants, without infringing
on the other's

as far as am i more intelligent then others, i know i am
more open to learing and changing my conclusionswhen
morfe moe facts become available.
DadZilla3 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 3:42 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
the tea party has had it's day. they played in the major
league and couldn't hit a curve.

You might want to read up on the midterm election results and rethink this one.
Homebrew Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 10:32 AM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
You might want to read up on the midterm election results and rethink this one.



I hate to say it,
but I believe the teaparty is past their prime. I believe that they peaked, during the midterm elections. The republicans are having a tough sell on the Ryan plan, which have driven many former teapartiers, those under 55, away from the teaparty. It will be interesting to watch the 2012 elections, if the republicans can find a candidate, that the party faithful can stomach, and that will appeal to independents. Right now, I see no one emerging from the primaries that independents will vote for.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
jackconrad Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 10:44 AM EST
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(='.'=)
(")_(") Bunny - Guliani 2012 !
DadZilla3 Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 10:49 AM EST
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Homebrew wrote:
I hate to say it,
but I believe the teaparty is past their prime. I believe that they peaked, during the midterm elections. The republicans are having a tough sell on the Ryan plan, which have driven many former teapartiers, those under 55, away from the teaparty. It will be interesting to watch the 2012 elections, if the republicans can find a candidate, that the party faithful can stomach, and that will appeal to independents. Right now, I see no one emerging from the primaries that independents will vote for.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)


The only candidates that will hurt the Republican party's chances are, with few exceptions, RINOs.
elk hunter Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 10:50 AM EST
Joined: 03-20-2009
Posts: 10,331
RICKAMAVEN wrote:
elk hunter

2. being gay is genitic like brown eyes. it is not a
choice. if you don't know that, you are starting with
information that is wrong and anything that follows would
not be a conclusion that you should learn about it.

3. are you not aware that i pay for medicare monthly? i
also pay for a supplement because medicare coveaa rs
only 80% of the medicare charge and the doctor is free
to bill whatever he feels his skills are worth, but he has
to accept a preagreed value that medicare has for any
service.

i also have to pay for any supleemental insurance for
coverage that is not paid for by medicare.

both toby and i have reached the age, as you will if you
have a long life, that parts are wearing out and need
medicines to keep the parts in good working order or
replace them.

8. how have you determined the amount of money that is
payed to the un-needy?

it is not necessary for either of us to convince the other
to accept our personal point of view. what we should do
is try to understand the other's point of view and
negotiate something that can satisfy as much as
possible both of our needs and wants, without infringing
on the other's

as far as am i more intelligent then others, i know i am
more open to learing and changing my conclusionswhen
morfe moe facts become available.





Rick, the gay lifestyle is a choice. Having said that, I have no problem with people who make that choice, and would defend them should anybody try and hurt them for it. On the other side of that, I will call it every time they want to get further BECAUSE they are gay.

I don't know what you pay for Medicare... Unlike many, I don't believe health care is a right... Want it? buy it... The Government has no business telling anybody what to charge... Wouldn't you say that you could have done things different earlier on to make heal care more affordable to you now, like investing better for the future? Do you believe that this country owes you health care?( if you are a veteran then I do believe we do BTW)

Rick, how were things done long ago before all of the give aways?

Can you determine where a dollar goes once payed out in taxes? The way I see it, unless a person has mental or physical disabilities, or not able to work due to age, in my opinion should not get a dime in hand outs, or if they do get said hand out, there are plenty of things they could do to earn it like road clean up, graffiti removal, maintaining city parks(lawn mowing and weeding) just to name a few... I am sick of able bodies people getting money from the Government out of the pockets of the hard working citizens of this country...
wheelrite Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 10:54 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Rick, the gay lifestyle is a choice. Having said that, I have no problem with people who make that choice, and would defend them should anybody try and hurt them for it. On the other side of that, I will call it every time they want to get further BECAUSE they are gay.

I don't know what you pay for Medicare... Unlike many, I don't believe health care is a right... Want it? buy it... The Government has no business telling anybody what to charge... Wouldn't you say that you could have done things different earlier on to make heal care more affordable to you now, like investing better for the future? Do you believe that this country owes you health care?( if you are a veteran then I do believe we do BTW)

Rick, how were things done long ago before all of the give aways?

Can you determine where a dollar goes once payed out in taxes? The way I see it, unless a person has mental or physical disabilities, or not able to work due to age, in my opinion should not get a dime in hand outs, or if they do get said hand out, there are plenty of things they could do to earn it like road clean up, graffiti removal, maintaining city parks(lawn mowing and weeding) just to name a few... I am sick of able bodies people getting money from the Government out of the pockets of the hard working citizens of this country...














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borndead1 Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 11:13 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
the gay lifestyle is a choice.


Why or how would anyone choose to be gay?
elk hunter Offline
#22 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 11:17 AM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
Why or how would anyone choose to be gay?



I don't know, nor do I care...
wheelrite Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 11:27 AM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
Why or how would anyone choose to be gay?


They all love Cher.That's the common thread...
ZRX1200 Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, May 30 2011, 11:48 AM EST
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Elk all those tasks you listed are union jobs for city workers...that'll never do!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 12:54 AM EST
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elk hunter

YOU ARE FLAT OUT WRONG ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY BEING A CHOICE AND YOU ARE TOO DOGMATIC TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WRONG.

WHERE DID YOU EVER LEARN THAT? WHAT HAVE YOU STUDIED THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO SAY THAT?
HockeyDad Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 5:59 AM EST
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Rick Found the Gay Gene Outrage!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 6:38 AM EST
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpNVD5GMUw
elk hunter Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 10:23 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
elk hunter

YOU ARE FLAT OUT WRONG ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY BEING A CHOICE AND YOU ARE TOO DOGMATIC TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WRONG.

WHERE DID YOU EVER LEARN THAT? WHAT HAVE YOU STUDIED THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO SAY THAT?



Can you prove positively without interpretation, that they have proven there is a homosexuality gene?

Everything I have read says they THINK there is but, has not been proven yet...

Once again for the record, because this is a touchy subject, I am not anti gay... My whole argument is that, there should not be any special treatment or promotion BECAUSE someone is gay OR straight....
FuzzNJ Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 10:29 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Can you prove positively without interpretation, that they have proven there is a homosexuality gene?

Everything I have read says they THINK there is but, has not been proven yet...

Once again for the record, because this is a touchy subject, I am not anti gay... My whole argument is that, there should not be any special treatment or promotion BECAUSE someone is gay OR straight....


When did you choose to be straight and how hard of a choice was it to make?
elk hunter Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 10:35 AM EST
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Fuzz, You can do better than that...

You of all people should understand my philosophy in that to you, there is no God until proven... Am I correct? The same goes for the homosexuality gene...

I really don't care if they find it or not to be totally honest here... Let me pose the question here...

Does anybody here believe that because somebody is gay(by gene or by choice) they should get special rights?

Be careful how you answer my question...
FuzzNJ Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 10:46 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Fuzz, You can do better than that...

You of all people should understand my philosophy in that to you, there is no God until proven... Am I correct? The same goes for the homosexuality gene...

I really don't care if they find it or not to be totally honest here... Let me pose the question here...

Does anybody here believe that because somebody is gay(by gene or by choice) they should get special rights?

Be careful how you answer my question...


You said that being a homosexual is a choice, so you've taken a stand on the issue.

If it is a choice, when did you decide to be straight and how hard of a choice was it to make?

What are 'special rights'?
fishinguitarman Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 10:49 AM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Fuzz, You can do better than that...

You of all people should understand my philosophy in that to you, there is no God until proven... Am I correct? The same goes for the homosexuality gene...

I really don't care if they find it or not to be totally honest here... Let me pose the question here...

Does anybody here believe that because somebody is gay(by gene or by choice) they should get special rights?

Be careful how you answer my question...









He is incapable of answering questions with a straight answer...Always with a question...
FuzzNJ Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 11:09 AM EST
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Posts: 13,000
fishinguitarman wrote:
He is incapable of answering questions with a straight answer...Always with a question...



lol considering I first asked a question in post 29 that was ignored. But whatever.

I do enjoy using the Socratic method. It can lead to a more interesting conversation rather than just I'm right/you're wrong.
elk hunter Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 11:49 AM EST
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Posts: 10,331
FuzzNJ wrote:
When did you choose to be straight and how hard of a choice was it to make?


Sorry Fuzz, I honestly thought you were being sarcastic...

Honestly, I would say that probably in or around the 5th or 6th grade... We had some family friends that we were around quite a bit... Their son and I were pals... When he wanted to touch my **** was when I decided that wasn't for me... Long before I really knew what gay or straight meant... (He never touched me BTW)

Maybe it had to do with being brought up in a religious home, or maybe I just thought it was icky... LOL

I am perfectly content and secure with my decision...

Will that answer work?
elk hunter Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 11:51 AM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
You said that being a homosexual is a choice, so you've taken a stand on the issue.

If it is a choice, when did you decide to be straight and how hard of a choice was it to make?

What are 'special rights'?


I have taken a stand... If or when they prove there is a homosexuality gene, I will change my mind.

Special rights? Any promotion or raise given BECAUSE someone is homosexual... The same goes for minorities, men vs women, or any other circumstance...

We are all equal right?

Now, answer my question please?
fishinguitarman Offline
#36 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 12:10 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I do enjoy using the Socratic method. It can lead to a more interesting conversation rather than just I'm right/you're wrong.










And there u have it....Fuzz is right and everybody else is wrong.....
ZRX1200 Offline
#37 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 12:21 PM EST
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Glad you finally cmd around!
fishinguitarman Offline
#38 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 12:23 PM EST
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....and sting like a bee....
FuzzNJ Offline
#39 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 1:11 PM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Sorry Fuzz, I honestly thought you were being sarcastic...

Honestly, I would say that probably in or around the 5th or 6th grade... We had some family friends that we were around quite a bit... Their son and I were pals... When he wanted to touch my **** was when I decided that wasn't for me... Long before I really knew what gay or straight meant... (He never touched me BTW)

Maybe it had to do with being brought up in a religious home, or maybe I just thought it was icky... LOL

I am perfectly content and secure with my decision...

Will that answer work?


You thought it was icky? why? If it's really a decision you shouldn't have had a feeling one way or the other, it would be more of a do I want to be gay or not. You should just as easily decided to be gay.

I knew from very early on I liked girls, and never considered boys as an option. Was a natural thing for me.
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#40 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 1:13 PM EST
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fishinguitarman wrote:
And there u have it....Fuzz is right and everybody else is wrong.....


It didn't say that at all. It was a general statement regarding the way things are 'discussed' here. The 'I'm right/you're wrong' refers to anyone on the board. I'm hoping you knew that because it's elementary reading comprehension.
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#41 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:04 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
You thought it was icky? why? If it's really a decision you shouldn't have had a feeling one way or the other, it would be more of a do I want to be gay or not. You should just as easily decided to be gay.

I knew from very early on I liked girls, and never considered boys as an option. Was a natural thing for me.




LOL!!!!

I was trying to be funny there... You know, little kids use the word icky... LOL

You never considered boys an option Fuzz? Seems pretty closed minded and conservative if you ask me...

OPEN YOUR MIND FUZZ!!!!!! LOL


You still didn't answer my question...
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#42 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:08 PM EST
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Name calling is more fun....


Im just glad this thread turned GhEy before page 2!!
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#43 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:29 PM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
LOL!!!!

I was trying to be funny there... You know, little kids use the word icky... LOL

You never considered boys an option Fuzz? Seems pretty closed minded and conservative if you ask me...

OPEN YOUR MIND FUZZ!!!!!! LOL


You still didn't answer my question...




No, I never considered boys at all. Not close minded, just the way I was born.

So it wasn't icky? You are going back and forth here. Homosexuality was biologically possible for you as in you are equally attracted to both and just needed to make a choice? I guess that's fine for you, there are people like that, they consider themselves bi, and if that's what you are, no problem. You don't think everyone experiences things exactly like you do right?

The question of 'special' rights, there are no such things. The example you gave about a job promotion has nothing to do with rights at all. You don't have a right to a job or a promotion. There are laws against discrimination though.
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#44 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:42 PM EST
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And groups that make their livings strong arming corporations for not meeting certain levels of pillow biters or other groups......

Some folks call this shaking down, or extortion.
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#45 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:47 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
No, I never considered boys at all. Not close minded, just the way I was born.

So it wasn't icky? You are going back and forth here. Homosexuality was biologically possible for you as in you are equally attracted to both and just needed to make a choice? I guess that's fine for you, there are people like that, they consider themselves bi, and if that's what you are, no problem. You don't think everyone experiences things exactly like you do right?

The question of 'special' rights, there are no such things. The example you gave about a job promotion has nothing to do with rights at all. You don't have a right to a job or a promotion. There are laws against discrimination though.


Nice try Fuzz...

You are correct in that I could have chosen to be gay or straight but, I chose to be straight.

I am not at all attracted to men... Nobody has proved there is a homosexual gene, and homosexuality is a choice...

Sorry Fuzz, you are wrong on all accounts...
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#46 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:50 PM EST
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...AGAIN!whip

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#47 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:50 PM EST
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We'll see Elk, when we meet you may change your mind.....I am a handsome devil.
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#48 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:54 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
We'll see Elk, when we meet you may change your mind.....I am a handsome devil.


And apparently, I would be okay with that!!! LOL
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#49 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 2:58 PM EST
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Just lightening the mood a bit.....you seem to be the only one cracking wise so I thought id join!
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#50 Posted: Tue, May 31 2011, 3:10 PM EST
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elk hunter wrote:
Nice try Fuzz...

You are correct in that I could have chosen to be gay or straight but, I chose to be straight.

I am not at all attracted to men... Nobody has proved there is a homosexual gene, and homosexuality is a choice...

Sorry Fuzz, you are wrong on all accounts...


You have just proven your entire theory wrong in just a couple sentences here.

You say you could have chosed to be gay, but also say you are not attracted to men.

How can that be?
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