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FuzzNJ Offline
#101 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 4:41 PM EST
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rwilly wrote:
If only schools and teachers were allowed to hold students accountable like that nowadays. Now, if a kid hasn't done squat all semester and is failing, teachers are expected to offer extra credit or accept make up work from 3 months ago in order for them to pass...


Kids fail here and are kept back. I know of a couple in the neighborhood and my kids tell me of a lot more. I'm personally not seeing this.
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#102 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 4:58 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:

1. According to Department of Education statistics, in 2007-2008 (the latest year available), full-time public school teachers across the country made an average of $53,230 in “total school-year and summer earned income.” That compares favorably to the $39,690 that private school teachers pulled down.


Damn, if I made $53K per year with the school I wouldn't have to work 4 other side jobs during the year to make ends meet! Guess I'm just a below average teacher, I'm not a tested subject after all so I don't really count. I figure teachers would have a lot more time to encourage students and uplift them and blow smoke up their parents a$$es if they didn't have to worry about making ends meet for their own families, but that doesn't matter!

As far as the difference between public and private schools, I'd gladly take a 40 count class of respectful, I know that is a relative term, students in private school where they will get their butts beat when they get home if they are bad in class over a class of 25 inner city disrespecting gang kids with the bubba's thrown in there with them. It then becomes more of a race/babysitting war in the classroom and trying to settle everyone down and then get them something taught in the 40 minutes in your room a day. There is no way in the world that you can even come close to trying to compare private and public school to each other. If you compare them together, then why is it you chosen to put your children into private schools? There has to be some public schools there that have high scores. Or is it the fact that there are far fewer distractions in private schools? All leading to a different learning environment.

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#104 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 5:25 PM EST
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#105 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 5:39 PM EST
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I've been following this story closely ever since it broke, and it is appaling. Can't say that I'm too shocked, but business and civic leaders were putting pressure on APS to improve test scores to attract new companies to the area. What is really shocking is the gigantic failure rates among Atlanta students. I have not looked at the entire report, as it involves hundreds of schools, but numbers like 21% passing rate of 3rd graders in math at school "x", or 94% failure rate of 4th grade reading at school "y", etc.

It makes one wonder why people like Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson aren't here protesting the child abuse that this situation has brought forth. These kids are being set up for failure for life over the basics of the 3 R's. It also makes one wonder about the mentality of my city, and why this is "acceptable".

It also makes one wonder if there is a correlation of drop-outs, sky-high homeless, rampant daily smash & grab robberies, youth gangs that are out of control, drive-by shootings, and a revolving door prison system.

But, Al Sharpton will be here next week to protest the law against illegal immigrants.

Makes one wonder about priorities.
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#106 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 5:44 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
I've been following this story closely ever since it broke, and it is appaling. Can't say that I'm too shocked, but business and civic leaders were putting pressure on APS to improve test scores to attract new companies to the area. What is really shocking is the gigantic failure rates among Atlanta students. I have not looked at the entire report, as it involves hundreds of schools, but numbers like 21% passing rate of 3rd graders in math at school "x", or 94% failure rate of 4th grade reading at school "y", etc.

It makes one wonder why people like Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson aren't here protesting the child abuse that this situation has brought forth. These kids are being set up for failure for life over the basics of the 3 R's. It also makes one wonder about the mentality of my city, and why this is "acceptable".

It also makes one wonder if there is a correlation of drop-outs, sky-high homeless, rampant daily smash & grab robberies, youth gangs that are out of control, drive-by shootings, and a revolving door prison system.

But, Al Sharpton will be here next week to protest the law against illegal immigrants.

Makes one wonder about priorities.


Does Atlanta have a lagre African- American population ?
HockeyDad Offline
#107 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 5:47 PM EST
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Define "large"!
ZRX1200 Offline
#108 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 5:49 PM EST
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Don't you watch meet the Browns???

They are large.
wheelrite Offline
#109 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 5:50 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Define "large"!



large/lärj/Adjective1. Of considerable or relatively great size, extent, or capacity.
2. Of greater size than the ordinary, esp. with reference to a size of clothing or to the size of a packaged commodity.
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#110 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 6:36 PM EST
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That's not a good enough definition, to me a large with reference to a size of clothing isn't large, but it's all perspective.






But the size of my package is large.
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#111 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 6:39 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I blame librarians.




Yup! I'm running a banned book underground rebellion!!!
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#112 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:19 PM EST
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McBryde wrote:
We are pissed off we are so far behind. The problem is that most other countries have cut offs and weed outs. Our country is one that thinks that everyone can learn at the same level, no questions asked. The mentally handicapped kid can learn just as well and to the same standard as the honor student can, it is just the teachers fault if they can't! That is "No child left behind"!

Other countries, like China, have cuts in their education system. About 6th grade, they have a weed out of the kids not making it, they go to the factories and work for the rest of their lives making toys and painting your kids toys with lead based paint. Another cut at 9th grade, those go to train to do medial technical jobs like motor pool and taxi driving and other stuff like that that endanger your life a little more. Another cut at 12th grade for the ones to run the factories and manage the people working, and the rest, the cream of the crop, go to college to get good paying jobs.

Whenever you figure out how to solve that system here, you can run the country, until then, just sit back and watch our country go to crap and keep drinking the coolaid they are giving you!

E



Wow this is one of the scariest posts I've ever read on here I think!

Not sure if anyone has addressed this yet as it's too long of a thread but here are my thoughts:

To simply pull out students by the 6th grade who are not making the cut - wow - what if some of those just didn't have good teachers up to that point? Too bad for them!

Then again at 9th grade if your scores aren't high enough don't worry we got things for you to do. Um how many of you knew what you wanted to do after the 9th grade? Hell most were probably still picking their boogers or learning to jerk themselves off to think of their futures.

Now by 12th grade if you didn't stand out you were put in position to manage the lesser imbeciles but you still worked were "they" told you and you NEVER had the chance to work for yourself. How many High School grads in the US own there own businesses?

Lastly the "cream of the crop" get givin the good paying jobs - so all you have to do is work hard through the 12th grade then screw off the rest of your life cuz you were considered the "cream of the crop"?

Well other countries can have that type of a school system if they want but I'll keep my kids in this one and just make sure myself that they succeed.
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#113 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:31 PM EST
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Hey Wheel ... The corruption from Atlanta Public Schools has spread to Dallas ...

Kathy Augustine, the new superintendent of the DeSoto Independent School District who was linked to cheating at Atlanta Public Schools, reported to work Monday on her first day as chief of the suburban Dallas system.

Augustine, a Harvard University graduate used her credentials on improving test scores at APS to land her $188,000-a-year job.

Augustine’s stay in the executive office could be short lived. Tonight, the Desoto ISD Board of Trustees will decide whether they should terminate her contract. The board also will discuss the Atlanta cheating investigation and allegations about their new superintendent.


In the APS probe, Augustine was accused of "illegally" withholding public documents and "aiding and abetting" former Atlanta superintendent Beverly Hall in "falsifying, misrepresenting or erroneously reporting the evaluation of students" on the 2009 CRCT, according to the investigation released last week. Augustine was also accused of making "false statements" about a testing security breach at Deerwood Academy where a confession on cheating was obtained. Augustine was APS' deputy superintendent of instruction and curriculum, and according to the report, "either knew or should have known that cheating and other misconduct was occurring in schools in the APS system."
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#114 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:34 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Hey Wheel ... The corruption from Atlanta Public Schools has spread to Dallas ...

Kathy Augustine, the new superintendent of the DeSoto Independent School District who was linked to cheating at Atlanta Public Schools, reported to work Monday on her first day as chief of the suburban Dallas system.

Augustine, a Harvard University graduate used her credentials on improving test scores at APS to land her $188,000-a-year job.

Augustine’s stay in the executive office could be short lived. Tonight, the Desoto ISD Board of Trustees will decide whether they should terminate her contract. The board also will discuss the Atlanta cheating investigation and allegations about their new superintendent.


In the APS probe, Augustine was accused of "illegally" withholding public documents and "aiding and abetting" former Atlanta superintendent Beverly Hall in "falsifying, misrepresenting or erroneously reporting the evaluation of students" on the 2009 CRCT, according to the investigation released last week. Augustine was also accused of making "false statements" about a testing security breach at Deerwood Academy where a confession on cheating was obtained. Augustine was APS' deputy superintendent of instruction and curriculum, and according to the report, "either knew or should have known that cheating and other misconduct was occurring in schools in the APS system."



Yep.It's all over the news here.
They paid $14000.00 to a recruiting firm to find a Black Superintendent. Diversity and all...
FuzzNJ Offline
#115 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:36 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Yep.It's all over the news here.
They paid $14000.00 to a recruiting firm to find a Black Superintendent. Diversity and all...


Again with all the black sh*t. Was just reading the Sharpton thread too. You got a real problem with black people dude.
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#116 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:37 PM EST
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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution broke the story of ceasing, when results from one year to the next showed such astonishing gains that were quite frankly unbelievable. The odds of these gains were one in a billion. If you want the full story behind the APS cheating scandal, check out ajc,com
wheelrite Offline
#117 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:51 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Again with all the black sh*t. Was just reading the Sharpton thread too. You got a real problem with black people dude.



Eat me ...

I don't have a problem with any ethnicity,just hypocrits...
The truth is the truth...

deal with it..
FuzzNJ Offline
#118 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 7:53 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Eat me ...

I don't have a problem with any ethnicity,just hypocrits...
The truth is the truth...

deal with it..


Yeah, if you say so.

How are George Jefferson and the stripper in the Duke case related to Sharpton?
wheelrite Offline
#119 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:24 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Yeah, if you say so.

How are George Jefferson and the stripper in the Duke case related to Sharpton?


Sharpton is a Race Baiter carpet bagger and doesn't desrve a public forum.
FuzzNJ Offline
#120 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:27 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Sharpton is a Race Baiter carpet bagger and doesn't desrve a public forum.


That didn't answer the question.
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#121 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:30 PM EST
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By the way, the embattled, and recently resigned head of APS, Beverly Hall was tracked down today by a local TV news station in Maui. Since this scandal took on epic proportions, no one has been able to locate her. When the area's senior TV news anchor surprised her in her hotel lobby, Hall feigned illness & laryngitis. She said she was there to recover her health, and refused comment.
wheelrite Offline
#122 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:40 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
That didn't answer the question.


Um,,
you obviously forgot Sharpton and Jackson were 1st in line to condemn whitey and portray the whore as a victim..

Sharpton is a charlatan.George Jefferson is my favorite African American entrepreneur.

I also like Bill Cosby and Jimi Hendrix and Amos and Andy,,,
FuzzNJ Offline
#123 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:46 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Um,,
you obviously forgot Sharpton and Jackson were 1st in line to condemn whitey and portray the whore as a victim..

Sharpton is a charlatan.George Jefferson is my favorite African American entrepreneur.

I also like Bill Cosby and Jimi Hendrix and Amos and Andy,,,



Um, yeah. And the stripper your favorite too? And it has to do with Sharpton on tv? The diversity search had to do with possible corruption how?

Don't even answer.
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#124 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:50 PM EST
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Sharpton is a racebating anti-semite.

Even liking cigars can't make that turd shine.
wheelrite Offline
#125 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 8:56 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Um, yeah. And the stripper your favorite too? And it has to do with Sharpton on tv? The diversity search had to do with possible corruption how?

Don't even answer.


Ok Rain Man,,,

The Desoto ISD ,a largely black Dallas suburb, was more concerned in finding a Black Superintendent rather than the best person for the job,regardless of race.
That is corrupt,,,



I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
FuzzNJ Offline
#126 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 9:14 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Ok Rain Man,,,

The Desoto ISD ,a largely black Dallas suburb, was more concerned in finding a Black Superintendent rather than the best person for the job,regardless of race.
That is corrupt,,,



I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.


And yet somehow George Jefferson and a black stripper should somehow be connected to a Sharpton tv show. Listen, you can try to explain it away any way you want. You can think I'm an idiot, or an idiot savant. I'm letting you know that that kind of sh*t does not present you in a positive light as it relates to MLK's dream.

Seriously. Sit back, think about it and pretend I'm not the one who said it.
wheelrite Offline
#127 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 9:25 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
And yet somehow George Jefferson and a black stripper should somehow be connected to a Sharpton tv show. Listen, you can try to explain it away any way you want. You can think I'm an idiot, or an idiot savant. I'm letting you know that that kind of sh*t does not present you in a positive light as it relates to MLK's dream.

Seriously. Sit back, think about it and pretend I'm not the one who said it.


So you dislike George Jefferson and whores?

I couldn't care less what light I'm viewed from. My opinions of Sharpton are spot on.

As is the whore and the cheatng lying New ISD Superintendent here..
FuzzNJ Offline
#128 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 9:31 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
So you dislike George Jefferson and whores?

I couldn't care less what light I'm viewed from. My opinions of Sharpton are spot on.

As is the whore and the cheatng lying New ISD Superintendent here..





I think you are smarter than this post, we've had PM conversations when you were drunk that showed you were smarter. You know what I am saying. Quit playing dumb dude.
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#129 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 9:35 PM EST
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Racism runs both ways ...
wheelrite Offline
#130 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 9:45 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
I think you are smarter than this post, we've had PM conversations when you were drunk that showed you were smarter. You know what I am saying. Quit playing dumb dude.


Bro,

I lace sarcasm with editorial.That's who I am...

Btw,,
I'm rarely drunk,really...

well rarely is relative...


burrrrp..
FuzzNJ Offline
#131 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 9:55 PM EST
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jetblasted wrote:
Racism runs both ways ...


And that would have to do with this conversation in what way?
FuzzNJ Offline
#132 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 10:00 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Bro,

I lace sarcasm with editorial.That's who I am...

Btw,,
I'm rarely drunk,really...

well rarely is relative...


burrrrp..


As do I.

Hey, remember that story I posted, can't remember how long ago, where the word n*gger was in the title? Remember how quick people were jumping on me for just posting that story and calling me a racist?

Well, here you are equating random black people with Sharpton, the whole all black people know each other canard, and diversity search = corruption. Now, you may not see that, but it's there.

Tell you what. Print out the thread, show it your African American friends or aquantinces and see what they say. You don't have to report back to the board or anything. I don't care really. Just see if they think that's kosher. Oh sh*t, kosher, a Jewish or Yiddish word. Oy Vey.
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#133 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 10:02 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
As do I.

Hey, remember that story I posted, can't remember how long ago, where the word n*gger was in the title? Remember how quick people were jumping on me for just posting that story and calling me a racist?

Well, here you are equating random black people with Sharpton, the whole all black people know each other canard, and diversity search = corruption. Now, you may not see that, but it's there.

Tell you what. Print out the thread, show it your African American friends or aquantinces and see what they say. You don't have to report back to the board or anything. I don't care really. Just see if they think that's kosher. Oh sh*t, kosher, a Jewish or Yiddish word. Oy Vey.



Ok,,

now you've made me feel bad...
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#134 Posted: Mon, Jul 11 2011, 11:14 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:



Those that can't teach nor be taught, criticize.


Really now? You don't like generalizations yet resort to the same tactic. I find this just as offensive as those that can't, teach.

Please "educate" us as to the difference which makes your statement acceptable.
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#135 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 10:25 AM EST
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hank56 wrote:
Really now? You don't like generalizations yet resort to the same tactic. I find this just as offensive as those that can't, teach.

Please "educate" us as to the difference which makes your statement acceptable.

I must have written 10.000 words and only that one line offended you? Why do I think this runs deeper?

But to answer your only complaint, what I wrote is a play on words, irony was involved, humor was the intent. Showing those that have been belittling tachers for years with the use of a caustic phrase just how easy and superficial it is to do so. And it was McBryde, not me, that was pissed off by "those who can't, teach". I was supporting him. I'm not a school employee.

I'm thinking the only possible group that could have been insulted (for real, not to be provocative) would be those that can't teach...so even they must admire teachers who can.

Honestly, not sure who I hurt with this.

By the way, the rest of the original insult to teachers goes"...and those who can't teach, teach gym". Brilliant critique, no?
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#136 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 10:37 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I must have written 10.000 words and only that one line offended you? Why do I think this runs deeper?



Par for the course here.
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#137 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 11:27 AM EST
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05busa wrote:
i remember getting hit with yardstick by the Nuns in grade school....they were evil



Well-deserved abuse in your case Busa!!

Herfing
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#138 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 12:11 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Par for the course here.

I suppose so. I really have a hard time believing that saying someone is critical when they call teachers inept is just as deeply offensive to the criticizer. And here I was feeling clever for turning out a phrase.

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#139 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 12:23 PM EST
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When the subject of teacher morality come up – I cannot help think about these women teachers in the local news who abused 16 to 20 year old boys by having sex with them. My question about that is, where the hell were these women when I was in school?
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#140 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 12:30 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
When the subject of teacher morality come up – I cannot help think about these women teachers in the local news who abused 16 to 20 year old boys by having sex with them. My question about that is, where the hell were these women when I was in school?



Laughing AT you!!!whip
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#141 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 12:47 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I must have written 10.000 words and only that one line offended you? Why do I think this runs deeper?

But to answer your only complaint, what I wrote is a play on words, irony was involved, humor was the intent. Showing those that have been belittling tachers for years with the use of a caustic phrase just how easy and superficial it is to do so. And it was McBryde, not me, that was pissed off by "those who can't, teach". I was supporting him. I'm not a school employee.

I'm thinking the only possible group that could have been insulted (for real, not to be provocative) would be those that can't teach...so even they must admire teachers who can.

Honestly, not sure who I hurt with this.

By the way, the rest of the original insult to teachers goes"...and those who can't teach, teach gym". Brilliant critique, no?



Nothing "deep" here, just my way of stating that "tit for tat" is pointless, you need not have included that phrase in your argument IMO. It was well stated to that point and lost a bit with the counter punch. I also feel that yes in 10,000 words one line can be offensive, doesn't necessarily negate the entire body of work yet can weaken it.


Just for my edification, if I do have issue with only one line out of 10,000 words it shouldn't/doesn't count?
HockeyDad Offline
#142 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 12:54 PM EST
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The important thing is that you were OK with 9,820 of the words.
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#143 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 1:34 PM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Well-deserved abuse in your case Busa!!

Herfing

It was first grade u prick...i didnt get bad until 2nd
Stinkdyr Offline
#144 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 2:20 PM EST
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05busa wrote:
It was first grade u prick...i didnt get bad until 2nd



well, in that case, call it PRE-CRIME punishment!

ram27bat
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#145 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 5:00 PM EST
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HeHe
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#146 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 5:08 PM EST
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hank56 wrote:
Nothing "deep" here, just my way of stating that "tit for tat" is pointless, you need not have included that phrase in your argument IMO. It was well stated to that point and lost a bit with the counter punch. I also feel that yes in 10,000 words one line can be offensive, doesn't necessarily negate the entire body of work yet can weaken it.


Just for my edification, if I do have issue with only one line out of 10,000 words it shouldn't/doesn't count?

Point taken

Yes, your opinion is valid.

Frank
FuzzNJ Offline
#147 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 5:16 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:


Yes, your opinion is valid.

Frank


When you disagree with most of the righties on this board they need that 'your opinion is valid' line, if you don't give it they think you are arrogant for presenting a different view. I can't keep doing that every time. I don't even know your politics but you are a better person for having noticed this and done it. It might keep him from crying.
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#148 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 5:22 PM EST
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^Victim!
ZRX1200 Offline
#149 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 5:24 PM EST
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Did I miss whinney bïtch mode?


Am I too late?
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#150 Posted: Tue, Jul 12 2011, 5:25 PM EST
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I for one, need no validation.
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