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Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman/Sanford, FL...
ZRX1200 Offline
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Racist crackers.....
dubleuhb Offline
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Now it is said Z's mothers father or grandfather was an African American.
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I heard he gave a kidney to a black guy.... Mellow
dubleuhb Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard he gave a kidney to a black guy.... Mellow

Huh ! Well then I guess that makes it a wash after giving the thug a quick dose of lead poisoning. Brick wall
ZRX1200 Offline
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I did donate my organ regularly....


But not for a black guy.

Papachristou Offline
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^ lmao. so wrong........ but funny
rfenst Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
I'm planning on going to Rfenst's house for the riots.

We should be able to smoke cigars and see the plumes of smoke from the riots in Sanford. Maybe even hear some airstrikes and stuff.



You know you are always welcome.
DrafterX Offline
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Mellow
Gene363 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I did donate my organ regularly....


But not for a black guy.



Sorry, no credit if you keep pulling it out.
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Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting


A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.

Zimmerman faces a second degree murder charge for the Feb. 26 shooting that left the unarmed 17-year-old high school junior dead. Zimmerman has claimed self defense in what he described as a life and death struggle that Martin initiated by accosting him, punching him in the face, then repeatedly bashing his head into the pavement.
Also today, a trove of documents are being examined by lawyers for both the defense and prosecution as part of discovery in Zimmerman's trial -- including 67 CDs worth of documents, video of Martin on the night of the shooting, his autopsy report and videos of Zimmerman's questioning by police.

Zimmerman's three-page medical report is included in those documents that the defense could use as evidence.
The morning after the shooting, on Feb. 27, Zimmerman sought treatment at the offices of a general physician at a family practice near Sanford, Fla. The doctor notes Zimmerman sought an appointment to get legal clearance to return to work.

The record shows that Zimmerman also suffered bruising in the upper lip and cheek and lower back pain. The two lacerations on the back of his head, one of them nearly an inch long, the other about a quarter-inch long, were first revealed in photos obtained exclusively by ABC News last month.

But the report also shows Zimmerman declined hospitalization the night of the shooting, and then declined the advice of his doctor to make a follow-up appointment with an ear nose and throat doctor.

In addition to his physical injuries, Zimmerman complained of stress and "occasional nausea when thinking about the violence." But he was not diagnosed with a concussion. The doctor noted that it was "imperative" that Zimmerman "be seen with [sic] his psychologist for evaluation."

According to the report, prior to the shooting Zimmerman had been prescribed Adderall and Temazepam, medications that can cause side effects such as agitation and mood swings, but in fewer than 10 percent of patients.

A neighbor told ABC News that the day after the shooting he saw Zimmerman as he spoke to officers outside his home. He too recalled seeing black eyes and significant swelling -- as well as a bandage over his nose.
Moments after the shooting Zimmerman told eyewitnesses he shot Martin in self defense. He later told officers his head was being pounded into the pavement and that he feared for his life, but that it was only when Martin seemed to reach for the gun wedges in his waistband that Zimmerman drew his weapon and fired directly into Martin's chest -- killing him.

The medical notes may bolster Zimmerman's claim that he acted in self-defense because he was being attacked. However, the prosecution contends that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation after profiling the teen, who was walking home after buying skittles and ice tea. They prosecution says Martin was breaking no laws and was not disturbing anyone as he walked back to his father's girlfriend's home.

Zimmerman was granted a $150,000 bail and has since been in deep hiding since his April 20 bail hearing.

http://gma.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclusive-zimmerman-medical-report-shows-broken-204911351--abc-news-topstories.html



More facts go trickling in...say Jesse and Al...How's crow taste?
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Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles

SANFORD, Fla. — WFTV has confirmed that autopsy results show 17-year-old Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles when he died.

The information could support George Zimmerman's claim that Martin beat him up before Zimmerman shot and killed him.

The autopsy results come as Zimmerman's attorney, Mark O’Mara continues to go over other evidence in the case.

O’Mara wouldn't comment on the autopsy evidence, but WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said it's better for the defense than it is for the prosecution.

WFTV has learned that the medical examiner found two injuries on Martin’s body: The fatal gunshot wound and broken skin on his knuckles.

When you compare Trayvon’s non-fatal injury with Zimmerman's bloody head wounds, the autopsy evidence is better for the defense, Sheaffer said.

“It goes along with Zimmerman's story that he acted in self-defense, because he was getting beaten up by Trayvon Martin,” Sheaffer said.

The injury to Martin’s knuckle also fits with Zimmerman's story that before he shot and killed Martin, Martin had broken his nose and knocked him to the ground, slamming his head on the sidewalk.

But Sheaffer said there could be another explanation for Martin's knuckle injury.

“It could be consistent with Trayvon either trying to get away or defend himself,” Sheaffer said.

Zimmerman shot and killed the unarmed teenager almost three months ago after calling 911 to report the teenager was acting suspiciously.

Zimmerman said Martin threw the first punch and that he opened fire in self-defense after his screams for help went unanswered.

The FBI was not able to determine whether it was Zimmerman or Trayvon who could be heard crying out for help in 911 calls.

The defense is trying to decide what evidence it wants a judge to keep confidential before the media gets a chance to see it, but WFTV is being told that could happen in the next week or so.

In the meantime, there’s new information surfacing about Zimmerman.

ABC News said it has obtained Zimmerman's medical report from the day after the killing. According to ABC, the report shows Zimmerman had a broken nose and abrasions on the back of his head.



Oh skittles and tea...how'd that get past the media? Where are Jesse and Al now?

Where's the New Black Panthers?
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Where are Jesse and Al now?

Where's the New Black Panthers?




banned.... Mellow
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New info... Trey had THC (marijuana) in his system. The amounts were consistent with having smoked it within three hours. Perhaps that explains the trip to the store?
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It's common knowledge that marijuana increases ones strength and aggression tremendously causing them to violently stalk their neighborhoods. The only appropriate action is shoot to kill. Same thing with zombies.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Thugs can't hold their mary jane......
wheelrite Offline
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Btw,,
Zimmerman's Great Grandpaw was a Negro,,,
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Quote:
Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting

Autopsy results show Trayvon Martin had injuries to his knuckles


So now the spin's gonna be, Zimmerman violently and repeatedly struck Trayvon in the fist with his head...
DrMaddVibe Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
It's common knowledge that marijuana increases ones strength and aggression tremendously causing them to violently stalk their neighborhoods. The only appropriate action is shoot to kill. Same thing with zombies.



Musta got ahold of that Georgetown Ganja strain.
HockeyDad Offline
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Drop the charges before the civil lawsuit gets any larger.

This is a failed show trial.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
It's common knowledge that marijuana increases ones strength and aggression tremendously causing them to violently stalk their neighborhoods. The only appropriate action is shoot to kill. Same thing with zombies.


No, BUT....MJ can cause bad judgement, bad depth perception and the biggest side effect with most users is
paranoia.............like assuming someone is following you too close!
FuzzNJ Offline
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matchew wrote:
No, BUT....MJ can cause bad judgement, bad depth perception and the biggest side effect with most users is
paranoia.............like assuming someone is following you too close!


1. It's not paranoia if you actually are being followed

and

2. You are telling ME the side effects of marijuana? You'd be better off teaching hawking a little bit about physics.
teedubbya Offline
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agreed. Fuzz bakes it right into his cookies
Papachristou Offline
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I never had marijuana so I cant comment on the effects. It's a drug though so it can't help your decision making process.
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Papachristou wrote:
I never had marijuana so I cant comment on the effects. It's a drug though so it can't help your decision making process.



I favor Z having been arrested and for the court to figure this one out. But, I seriously doubt T having THC in his system had anything to do with whatever happened. Besides, one local report, which may or may not be correct, stated the amount of THC found was too low for him to have recently smoked pot.


(Enough of all the American "pot is evil" crap...)
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Papachristou wrote:
I never had marijuana so I cant comment on the effects. It's a drug though so it can't help your decision making process.



Gateway drug
HockeyDad Offline
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wheelrite wrote:
Gateway drug




Yup
ZRX1200 Offline
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Gotta fund american agencies, and keep the banks afloat laundering cartel funds.........



Think globally, grow locally.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Racist crackers.....


Ritz crackers...
rfenst Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Gotta fund american agencies, and keep the banks afloat laundering cartel funds.........



Think globally, grow locally.



NUMBER ONE... "cash crop" in the U.S. Weed is ahead of wheat, corn and even soy beans.
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rfenst wrote:
NUMBER ONE... "cash crop" in the U.S. Weed is ahead of wheat, corn and even soy beans.

which makes it even more amazing how few crimes are committed by users attempting to get more of it, or because people are "under the influence" of it. The crimes are almost 100% related to the mj itself being illegal.
Not a whole lot of people beaten to death by mj crazed addicts...but in bar rooms across the country every night...well
ZRX1200 Offline
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Many pot smokers are lazy POS junkies.


I don't care if its legal but I've seen it KILL my uncle at age 52 and ruin the lives of many if my friends. Most pot smokers I've only met prioritize getting high.

Yes many are functional. La de fuggin da.




telle est la vie

wheelrite Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Many pot smokers are lazy POS junkies.


I don't care if its legal but I've seen it KILL my uncle at age 52 and ruin the lives of many if my friends. Most pot smokers I've only met prioritize getting high.

Yes many are functional. La de fuggin da.




telle est la vie



Weed makes people dumb and fat...
teedubbya Offline
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Bs. Most in here don't smoke weed.
HockeyDad Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:

telle est la vie



Whip out a French-bomb on them potheads! They're gonna think it translates to "Go to White Castle".
ZRX1200 Offline
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manger à Joe !
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teedubbya wrote:
Bs. Most in here don't smoke weed.



A whole lot more should!!! Anxious

FuzzNJ Offline
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topper7788 wrote:
A whole lot more should!!! Anxious



Preach!
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Many pot smokers are lazy POS junkies.


I don't care if its legal but I've seen it KILL my uncle at age 52 and ruin the lives of many if my friends. Most pot smokers I've only met prioritize getting high.

Yes many are functional. La de fuggin da.




telle est la vie


+1
frankj1 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Many pot smokers are lazy POS junkies.


I don't care if its legal but I've seen it KILL my uncle at age 52 and ruin the lives of many if my friends. Most pot smokers I've only met prioritize getting high.

Yes many are functional. La de fuggin da.




telle est la vie


sorry about your uncle. shocked too, never heard of anyone else dying from it in my lifetime.

I feel it is not a "yeah yeah many are successful" but..., it is virtually a zero issue problem in society, other than arrests due to legal status.

my experiences and exposures to pot and pot smokers are the polar opposite of yours. your picture reads like a hippie commune from 1968. must be east coast/west coast thing.

in the early years, teen years mostly, the initial attraction is extremely strong toward the great new feeling of being high, such is the way of youth, but as the decades have rolled on virtually 100% of those I know who still smoke spend very little of their lives even concerned about the role of pot, looking at it as just an alternative to a cocktail after the responsibilities of the day are over...just like drinkers who are not alcoholics consume alcohol the right way. I know lots of people that have had successful careers and families and they dabble in pot...and I mean people well into their fifties, have been using just as responsibly as they use alcohol for over 40 years. I know no adults consumed by the search as you seem to. And I probably have two decades on you. I do know equally as many (myself included) who have totally lost interest in it, that's how weak the urge is normally...funny though that the last few times I have indulged was because I was drinking when it was offered! There's Wheel's real gateway drug, alcohol!

Similar to gambling and other less addictive temptations, the real percent of pot users that develop a problem such as you describe is miniscule. A tiny fraction develop addiction compared to drinkers, cigarette smokers, pain killers and all other potential "problem" issues and substances. The largest number I have ever seen printed by impartial studies was 1 in 15. It happens, but hardly ever, and seems to be the safest bet of all the bad crap out there. You seem to have a higher percentage of people in your life with the rare condition, and I am not being condescending, your circle seems way off the typical experience.

Basedon your experience, I can understand why you'd call smokers POS's, I just haven't seen it that way.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Many pot smokers are lazy POS junkies.


I don't care if its legal but I've seen it KILL my uncle at age 52 and ruin the lives of many if my friends. Most pot smokers I've only met prioritize getting high.

Yes many are functional. La de fuggin da.




telle est la vie



So what IF some pot smokers are lazy POS junkies? What about their individual rights to do as they please- providing it doesn't directly hurt others?

I was a prosecutor for a while over 20 years ago and NEVER saw one single instance of aggression, fighting, thievery, spousal abuse or obviously ruined lives due to pot. Not once- and neither did my fellow prosecutors, which made us think how much of a joke criminalization is.

After 20 or 21 years of practicing auto accident law, I again have Never seen one crash that was caused by marijuana use alone. NOT one.

I don't know why the pot smokers you have met prioritize getting high, but again, why is that your concern if they are otherwise responsible citizens? They overwhelmingly probably get high, hang out, chill out, eat and sleep.

Addicts will be addicts which ever way they manifest their problems: over-eating, obesity, over exercising, alcohol, tobacco, sex, etc. It's not the substance or the activity, but the individual's psychological and psychiatric conditions which are the real culprit. Just because one may manifest their addiction smoking pot because thy have issues doesn't make pot the cause of those problems or the real culprit.
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I'm not for the the criminalization either. However, it's difficult to gauge the amount of damage caused by unreported marijuana abuse. Whether its accidents around the house or local travel misshaps; families torn asunder when the breadwinner or houseparent neglects their parental responsibilities; or people who are veered off the path to success (career & social standing) & pretty much live unfulfilled lives in a blissful stupor. Not to speak of, the probable damage done to body (most notably the lungs & from lack of exercise) and to children exposed to the smoke as well as, the role model's bad example...

I was introduced to "the reefer" when I was about 29 by a Government lawyer buddy of mine who apparently didn't feel that it affected his bureaucratic skills. I, on the hand, lost some of my competitive business edge for several years & it did short term memory damage. I'm sure that it did non quantitative physical damage as well.
Beer
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Stinkdyr wrote:
Just a wag here, but I'll bet that that plenty of dirt is gonna come out that this kid who got shot is in reality a scumbag punk who was up to no good.
Time will tell. And Jesse and Al will cash in regardless.
Think




You, sir, are an oracle. Gonz
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I'm not for the the criminalization either. However, it's difficult to gauge the amount of damage caused by unreported marijuana abuse. Whether its accidents around the house or local travel misshaps; families torn asunder when the breadwinner or houseparent neglects their parental responsibilities; or people who are veered off the path to success (career & social standing) & pretty much live unfulfilled lives in a blissful stupor. Not to speak of, the probable damage done to body (most notably the lungs & from lack of exercise) and to children exposed to the smoke as well as, the role model's bad example...

I was introduced to "the reefer" when I was about 29 by a Government lawyer buddy of mine who apparently didn't feel that it affected his bureaucratic skills. I, on the hand, lost some of my competitive business edge for several years & it did short term memory damage. I'm sure that it did non quantitative physical damage as well.
Beer


OK. I will grant you that pot does damage to the lungs. Now, lets take that out of the equation and look at the rest: I haven't seen household accidents, neglect for parental responsibility, non-success or unfulfilled lives due to pot. Instead I have seen people whose lives are affected by these types of things- some who smoke pot most others of which don't. Sure those are societal concerns, but i just don't buy that they are due to pot alone much at all.

Now, back to one's lungs. There are multiple ways to avoid much or all of the lung damage. But, I see that as the biggest red herring factor of all. If that is such an important concern in the anti-pot movement, there are other dangerous activities- known to damage lungs and other body organs- that society doesn't doesn't put a stop to or make illegal.

I agree with you that those who use pot should be responsible for themselves and their families, but not enough to intrude into their lives.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Preach!


LOL!
Radical Left Wing Marijuana Legalizers/Decriminalizers UNITE!!!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Robert my point was pot isn't all fuggin daises like the druggies pretend it is. Alcoholic, drug junkie they are equally weak to me. Addiction is a sign of weak character and conviction and prioritizing affects everyone in the pseudo scocialist utopia were attempting.....

Freedom is fine by me. But every weak pos can stand on their own or be helped by family/friends not society at large.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Robert my point was pot isn't all fuggin daises like the druggies pretend it is. Alcoholic, drug junkie they are equally weak to me. Addiction is a sign of weak character and conviction and prioritizing affects everyone in the pseudo scocialist utopia were attempting.....

Freedom is fine by me. But every weak pos can stand on their own or be helped by family/friends not society at large.


lol

The Strong vs the Weak
The Rule Followers vs the Rule Breakers
The Deserving vs the non deserving
The Saved vs the Damned

The first group gets it all, screw the rest.

Smoke a joint and calm the f down.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Robert my point was pot isn't all fuggin daises like the druggies pretend it is. Alcoholic, drug junkie they are equally weak to me. Addiction is a sign of weak character and conviction and prioritizing affects everyone in the pseudo scocialist utopia were attempting.....

Freedom is fine by me. But every weak pos can stand on their own or be helped by family/friends not society at large.


Addiction is a psychiatric condition.

To me, the only "weakness" is when, for example, an alcoholic/drug addict chooses not to go to AA or NA and then continues to suffer from their addiction, knowing damn well what the consequences for others will be. Otherwise, it is not a character issue to me. Don't misunderstand this to mean I don't feel they aren't culpable for bad acts. If families want to support them, good for them. As to our society supporting them- I don't want to either.

But, what is the real difference if you drink a couple glasses of scotch and I were to light a joint? Does that make us "weak"? What if we did so every day after work or on weekends? My point is, that mj is a drug of choice for some (while alcohol is for others). It's really not much of anyone else's business.
ZRX1200 Offline
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No. Till it effects others.

Don't forget I'm inside peoples homes all day, I'm not just coming from a family perspective.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
No. Till it effects others.

Don't forget I'm inside peoples homes all day, I'm not just coming from a family perspective.


What do you do that puts you inside people's homes?
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Im not going to talk about it publicly for legal reasons! Ha!


(I told you in a recent p.m. when I emailed you)
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