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DadZilla3 Offline
#101 Posted: Sun, Jul 1 2012, 3:28 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
There are fake religions? No way! How do you spot one of those?

Fake religions are found under many names but 'pro-choice', 'global warming', and 'social justice' are a few of the ones most prevalent these days.
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#102 Posted: Sun, Jul 1 2012, 3:33 PM EST
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DadZilla3 wrote:
Fake religions are found under many names but 'pro-choice', 'global warming', and 'social justice' are a few of the ones most prevalent these days.


bwahahahaha
Whistlebritches Offline
#103 Posted: Sun, Jul 1 2012, 5:24 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
bwahahahaha


Reality is a b*tch.............ya might as well get ya a good laugh.


Ron
calavera Offline
#104 Posted: Tue, Jul 10 2012, 6:19 AM EST
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It is very simple.

If you like how things have been going the last couple of years vote for the guy that is already in there. He won't change.

If you don't like how things have been going the last couple of years, vote for someone else. The other guy might do things the same, but he might be different.


I personally think that if the other guy is even the least bit different, it would be an improvement. I would rather have someone who will close the borders, close the bases overseas, bring all the troops home now, eliminate social programs, legalize all drugs, institute a flat tax and eliminate the irs, shrink the federal government and restore states rights.

Don't see that candidate anywhere, but I will always be looking out for them.
teedubbya Offline
#105 Posted: Tue, Jul 10 2012, 7:41 AM EST
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Dude how many times are you going to cut and paste your genius remark. Just pat your self on the back, give the front a little tug and move on.
HockeyDad Offline
#106 Posted: Tue, Jul 10 2012, 7:44 AM EST
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Oh my!
teedubbya Offline
#107 Posted: Tue, Jul 10 2012, 8:59 AM EST
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Oh my
calavera Offline
#108 Posted: Wed, Jul 11 2012, 9:58 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Dude how many times are you going to cut and paste your genius remark. Just pat your self on the back, give the front a little tug and move on.


You can be as much as a douche as you want, but it does not change the truth of what I said. If anyone feels that they have benefitted from obama, then they should by all means vote for him. If not, vote for the other guy. All the BS that passes for political discussion here is irrelevant.

You think that anything you say is ever going to get Rick to vote for a Republican? Just in case you don't have a clue, the answer is no. If the Democratic candidate opened a club for Jewish people that he called Auschwitz II and if all the people who went there were never seen again, Rick would go out of his way to blame George Bush and to defend the Democrat.

So why bother rehashing the old crap? Vote for who does you good and get on with it.

Didn't say it was a genius remark, but I do feel that it is sound and stands up to scrutiny. So you can go ahead and give your front a little tug. I stand behind what I said.








J
teedubbya Offline
#109 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 10:45 AM EST
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You are going to stand behind me while I give the front s little tug?

Freak.
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#110 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 10:49 AM EST
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at least he doesn't want to watch.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#111 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 11:47 AM EST
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He didn't say that
teedubbya Offline
#112 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 11:49 AM EST
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He is right about ricka though. I'm also quite sure he didn't vote for the bush disaster to continue because he is nothing like ricka.
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#113 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 12:18 PM EST
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Mittens thread is now a who is watching teedubya self pleasure thread.......




Nice.




I bet Rick self pleasures with his left hand, and not just to play stranger. Many here are right only self pleasurers.
teedubbya Offline
#114 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 12:25 PM EST
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I have to use both
teedubbya Offline
#115 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 12:54 PM EST
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I guess the fence post in my arse provides for leverage and an extra hand
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#116 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 12:56 PM EST
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Ram has a bat... ram27bat
teedubbya Offline
#117 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 12:58 PM EST
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You would know
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#118 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 1:00 PM EST
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only cause he talks about it... I've never seen it.. Not talking Not talking

actaully he claims to have two... Mellow
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#119 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 1:05 PM EST
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Some people they got two


Willie Brown he got three!
















Teedubbya I dig the new avatar bro. He was as cool as a cucumber, I always wondered why the old bald doctor always got the babes though.
teedubbya Offline
#120 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 1:10 PM EST
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Drafter wishes he had one
DrafterX Offline
#121 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 1:11 PM EST
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Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you





Laugh
calavera Offline
#122 Posted: Thu, Jul 12 2012, 5:31 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
You are going to stand behind me while I give the front s little tug?

Freak.


You must have me confused with your dad. I want to be nowhere near you while you pull your pud.

Freak
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#123 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:17 AM EST
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About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.
teedubbya Offline
#124 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 4:11 AM EST
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Same for anyone who voted to reelect Bush. Morons in both cases.
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#125 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:05 AM EST
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Oh, for the lost opportunity to have had John Kerry as president...now THAT is moronic.
teedubbya Offline
#126 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:26 AM EST
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We don't know. That is the unknown. We knew what bush was and it was bad....really really bad. We really don't know what Kerry would have been as Prez. We can project but that's really not very accurate.

The same is true this round. We don't know what Romney will do.... he changes all the time anyway.... but we know what we have in Obama.... and its bad.... really really bad.

It is so strange folks can't see that.
teedubbya Offline
#127 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:29 AM EST
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But make no mistake I agree with you. The folks that vote for Obama this time are equally as stupid as the idiots that gave us bush's second term..... and the ones who voted for Carter's reelection etc...
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#128 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:38 AM EST
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Fine, say Bush is bad, but to call people who voted for him morons without even addressing, much less making the case for, his opponent is worthless emotional drivel. Obviously one can never know EXACTLY FOR SURE how someone who was not elected would have governed, that doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. I would take Bush, with his flaws, over Kerry any day.
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#129 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:38 AM EST
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IDIOTS ON BOTH SIDES OUTRAGE!





who'd a thunk it.....
teedubbya Offline
#130 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:40 AM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
Fine, say Bush is bad, but to call people who voted for him morons without even addressing, much less making the case for, his opponent is worthless emotional drivel. Obviously one can never know EXACTLY FOR SURE how someone who was not elected would have governed, that doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. I would take Bush, with his flaws, over Kerry any day.



LOL

yet anyone voting for obama is an idiot
teedubbya Offline
#131 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:41 AM EST
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And I do think those that voted for Bush's second term are political morons. Same about Obama. I think someone should have run against Bush in the Primaries.
teedubbya Offline
#132 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:42 AM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.


robertknyc wrote:
Fine, say Bush is bad, but to call people who voted for him morons without even addressing, much less making the case for, his opponent is worthless emotional drivel. Obviously one can never know EXACTLY FOR SURE how someone who was not elected would have governed, that doesn't mean you can't make an educated guess. I would take Bush, with his flaws, over Kerry any day.



LOL - worthless emotional drivel.
robertknyc Offline
#133 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 11:58 AM EST
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Nice try, but hardly. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Bush, anyone who's not a Kool-Aid drinker or communist knows that. Any opposing candidate that runs in the tradition of the America we have known is vastly preferable. But, feel free to make the case for Obama over Romney.
teedubbya Offline
#134 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:11 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
Nice try, but hardly. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Bush, anyone who's not a Kool-Aid drinker or communist knows that. Any opposing candidate that runs in the tradition of the America we have known is vastly preferable. But, feel free to make the case for Obama over Romney.




It wasn't a nice try, you just apply different standards based on your blinders. I'm voting for Romney, not sure where you get that I am making a case for Obama. Maybe you are just getting emotional and throwing things out there.

They are both failures. You just drank some Bush kool-aid. Bush was awful first term and it continued into the second. Obama is equally as bad (although he didn't start any fresh wars just didn't end one).

All you need to know about Romney is he isn't Obama. But with Bush you need to take a really close look at Kerry.

We are all biased, it's just easier for some to accept, which I do not expect you to.
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#135 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:23 PM EST
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What you are obviously blind to is the fact that the economy during the 2004 election was pretty good, unemployment was about 5.5%, etc. It is not "moronic" to vote to reelect a president when things are going fairly well by that key measure, certainly unless you can make a clear case why his challenger would be significantly better (which you didn't). Now, we have the opposite situation: the economy sucks and there is no plan being offered to make it better. There are plenty of other bad things Obama is doing that could be noted, but the point is that when you have someone at the helm who is presiding over a terrible economic situation and is clueless how to fix it it's time to make a change...unless Romney, in this case, is just a total incompetent which he is clearly not.

I didn't say you were making a case for Obama, just that unless you are then you agree with me that Obama is a disaster. So, what we disagree on is why voting to reelect Bush was moronic given the awful John Kerry he was running against.
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#136 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:35 PM EST
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No, IMHO, the economy under Bush was an abject disaster to most unless you were a Defense contractor. And then there's the matter of oil money that was supposed to pay for the war, our borders were left porous, yada yada yada... I've been through the litany of lies and incompetence often enough.

Bush jr. almost singlehandedly handed the Presidential & Congressional reins to the Democrats after his HORRIBLE 8 year performance. That's how bad he was & I had been a longstanding stalwart Republican water carrier since Nixon. Ole dubya cured me of that!! I held my nose & voted for the viable alternative- Kerry.

I'm with TW 100%. You're no better than the kneejerk Obama supporters.

The important thing is to kick Obama out. For me that means dragging my ass out & voting for a less than perfect candidate- Mitt Romney. If you're not voting for Romney, you'll be rewarding a proven failure with a second term.
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#137 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:37 PM EST
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Okay Bloody, make the case for John Kerry then.
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#138 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:41 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
What you are obviously blind to is the fact that the economy during the 2004 election was pretty good, unemployment was about 5.5%, etc. It is not "moronic" to vote to reelect a president when things are going fairly well by that key measure, certainly unless you can make a clear case why his challenger would be significantly better (which you didn't). Now, we have the opposite situation: the economy sucks and there is no plan being offered to make it better. There are plenty of other bad things Obama is doing that could be noted, but the point is that when you have someone at the helm who is presiding over a terrible economic situation and is clueless how to fix it it's time to make a change...unless Romney, in this case, is just a total incompetent which he is clearly not.

I didn't say you were making a case for Obama, just that unless you are then you agree with me that Obama is a disaster. So, what we disagree on is why voting to reelect Bush was moronic given the awful John Kerry he was running against.[/quote]

[quote=robertknyc]Nice try, but hardly. Obama is orders of magnitude worse than Bush, anyone who's not a Kool-Aid drinker or communist knows that. Any opposing candidate that runs in the tradition of the America we have known is vastly preferable. But, feel free to make the case for Obama over Romney.




Nope. Bush was terrible. I kept hearing that we needed to give him a chance to let him fix his disasters. And to be against him getting a second term meant you were a liberal.


You are simply not consistent, and that is ok. you are partisan. why is that such an awful thing to admit. i used to be. bush cured me of that.

it is the same situation in reverse, you just can't see it. I won't make the case for Kerry anymore than I will/can for Romney. Both are weak candidates to me. The Primaries showed us that. What I can make the case for is how awful Bush was and how awful Obama is.
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#139 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:44 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
Okay Bloody, make the case for John Kerry then.



You're an argumentative cuss, aintcha? It's been about 8 years... lol

Let me put it to you this way, I don't remember enough SIZABLE differences between the 2 candidates- not enough to make me want to reward a proven lunkhead who sported an "R" next to his name anyway.

I know that Kerry was a privileged man who at least served in Vietnam even if he used it as film promo for his political future, as opposed to another privileged individual who enjoyed bravely posing in a flight suit.
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#140 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:47 PM EST
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I thought Bush was the worst prez in my lifetime. I'd call it about equal with Obama. My guess is you didn't like Obama from day 1.

I voted for Bush and wanted him to do well. i through a party to celebrate the court case. he just failed miserably in his first term and yes Kery sucked ass too.

We have the same thing here. Obama failed miserably and Romney sucks ass too.

I just beleive if you put the same guy back in you get the same result. Maybe you get a pleasant suprise if you replace them even with a seemingly equal turd.

But I'm cool with the when I do it its smart but when you do it its stupid thing. Its a win-win!
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#141 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 12:53 PM EST
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Okay, so basically TW's position is, if you consider a president to be bad he should be voted out of office without ever considering if the opponent is worse, and if you don't do that you are a moron. I'm capable of a little more analysis and judgment than that.


Bloody, I'm not arguing that Bush was fantastic or the like, that's not my point. I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11. Therefore it can hardly be argued that voting to reelect a president like that is moronic. Beat up on Bush all you want, but unless someone makes a good case that John Kerry would have made a better president, then calling someone a moron for voting for Bush is just an expression of your hatred, or whatever, for Bush, nothing more.
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#142 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:02 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
Okay, so basically TW's position is, if you consider a president to be bad he should be voted out of office without ever considering if the opponent is worse, and if you don't do that you are a moron. I'm capable of a little more analysis and judgment than that.



LOL


Yet our conversation started with this

robertknyc wrote:
About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.



You are applying that logic this time (against obama.....read...all you need to know about romney is he is not Obama) but not when it is your bucket of kool aid in the WH.

you are something else. I parroted you (purposely) and you can't see it.
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#143 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:06 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:


Bloody, I'm not arguing that Bush was fantastic or the like, that's not my point. I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11. Therefore it can hardly be argued that voting to reelect a president like that is moronic. Beat up on Bush all you want, but unless someone makes a good case that John Kerry would have made a better president, then calling someone a moron for voting for Bush is just an expression of your hatred, or whatever, for Bush, nothing more.



He had the worst terrorist attack on us soil during his admin (remember Obama can't blame things on bush (which I agree that he shouldnt). He ran the economy into the ground. he started a war in iraq under false pretences etc...... who is drinking kool-aid?

Clinton recession Bush recovery? really?

my god.

Both suck ass.
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#144 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:11 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
Okay, so basically TW's position is, if you consider a president to be bad he should be voted out of office without ever considering if the opponent is worse, and if you don't do that you are a moron. I'm capable of a little more analysis and judgment than that.


Bloody, I'm not arguing that Bush was fantastic or the like, that's not my point. I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11. Therefore it can hardly be argued that voting to reelect a president like that is moronic. Beat up on Bush all you want, but unless someone makes a good case that John Kerry would have made a better president, then calling someone a moron for voting for Bush is just an expression of your hatred, or whatever, for Bush, nothing more.



I think that recessions are part of a cyclical pattern regardless of whomever's in, Robert. Some Presidents are better than others in prolonging or cutting them short however. And if I remember correctly Bush DID inherit the rumblings of a recession from slick willy. Having said that, business prospered under Clinton & the Republican congress. You'll just have to take my word on that as a front line soldier in the trenches who had daily dealings with assorted clientele & many non-Defense related suppliers. This changed abruptly after 9/11 & got progressively worse. Mr. Bush ALWAYS had the big money interests foremost in mind, rebuilt foreign economies, & then passed horribly wasteful (and expensive) senior care legislation. Just like Obama he had no clue what he was doing.
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#145 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:12 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Obama is equally as bad (although he didn't start any fresh wars just didn't end one).



Factcheck: New war - Libya. (although he was just following France and the UK's lead)
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#146 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:14 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Factcheck: New war - Libya. (although he was just following France and the UK's lead)



you are correct. they have one more thing in common. although I think they had total UN support and didn't claim the rest of the world was wrong.
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#147 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:15 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
No, IMHO, the economy under Bush was an abject disaster to most unless you were a Defense contractor.



Factcheck: It wasn't too bad for energy, banking & finance, and medical/big pharma either.

(Weird......they're all still under the Obama Cone of Protection as well)
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#148 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:16 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Factcheck: It wasn't too bad for energy, banking & finance, and medical/big pharma either.
(Weird......they're all still under the Obama Cone of Protection as well)



good point
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#149 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:16 PM EST
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I do think Clinton inherited an economic swing from the actions taken by daddy bush during a recession. I've never given Clinton much credit for the economic boom.... but I didn't see GWB doing **** for the economy. He owns TARP for godsake.
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#150 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:17 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Factcheck: It wasn't too bad for energy, banking & finance, and medical/big pharma either.

(Weird......they're all still under the Obama Cone of Protection as well)



Obama IS Bush. that is the point.
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