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HockeyDad Offline
#151 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:19 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Obama IS Bush. that is the point.


....and so is Romney!

Scoreboard.....globalists.
teedubbya Offline
#152 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:20 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
....and so is Romney!

Scoreboard.....globalists.


Sadly that could be true.

But all you need to know about Romney is he is not Obama.

Edited because not even it is logical in the context of things
HockeyDad Offline
#153 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:22 PM EST
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Kerry was also a globalist. See the pattern?!
bloody spaniard Offline
#154 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:22 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I do think Clinton inherited an economic swing from the actions taken by daddy bush during a recession. I've never given Clinton much credit for the economic boom.... but I didn't see GWB doing **** for the economy. He owns TARP for godsake.



I thought he was an affable galoot who mispronunciated but after a while the act got old...
...and I used to defend his lousy business track record. Little did I know that we were handing a proven fool a blank check to spend at will...

Romney may be a globalist but I think that he'll at least make a viable attempt to help the American businessman.
I know what Obama's capable of- NOTHING.
robertknyc Offline
#155 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:23 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
LOL


Yet our conversation started with this




You are applying that logic this time (against obama.....read...all you need to know about romney is he is not Obama) but not when it is your bucket of kool aid in the WH.

you are something else. I parroted you (purposely) and you can't see it.



Dude, I am not missing what you are trying to say...the difference is that I CAN make the case for Romney over Obama. If I need to I will, and it's not even close. Calling people who voted for Bush in 2004 morons is just an emotional outburst unless you can tell us why Kerry was the clearly better choice over Bush.

As a conservative I don't defend Bush across the board. But obviously you have a dislike for Bush personally apparently when you say he ran the economy into the ground. The economy was good for most of his term after the recession he interited ended --we had 4.4% unemployment as late as 2007-- and the cause of the downturn was not caused primarily by his policies but a collapse of the housing bubble (a whole other complicated topic) and the bad bets Wall St. had placed. Could there have been more regulation? Yes. Did Bush overturn lots of Clinton regs? No.

And the whole war on false pretenses thing... So you are saying they falsified intelligence and bamboozled all the congressmen, senators and allies? Good luck proving that charge. And to what end would he do that anyway?

So, so much for your charge that I am drinking Kool-Aid. Bush spent way too much, and because of that he gave an opening for Democrats to win the elections and turn this country far to the left...a sad legacy.
teedubbya Offline
#156 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:23 PM EST
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All you needed to know about Kerry is he wasn't bush.... or was he....

who's on first?
teedubbya Offline
#157 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:24 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
About the only thing you need to know about Romney is that he is not Barack Obama. I truly believe anyone who supports Obama at this point is ignorant, an idiot, or a communist.



LMAO - the sad part is I agree with you
bloody spaniard Offline
#158 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:27 PM EST
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Gotta give Robert credit for seeing at least one side of the argument. LOL
It's all good brother. At least we all want Obama OUT.
teedubbya Offline
#159 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:28 PM EST
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lookin like a foo with yo pants on da ground
DrafterX Offline
#160 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:28 PM EST
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personally I made alot of money while Bush was in office... did that cloud my judgement..?? maybe, but whata ya gonna do..?? Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#161 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:28 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
It's all good brother. At least we all want Obama OUT.



this is true - you should know I'm just poking at you now. We see things differently but it's ok. I have been partisan and I am a mornon. I'm not looking down at either class (whichever you are in)
teedubbya Offline
#162 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 1:29 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
personally I made alot of money while Bush was in office... did that cloud my judgement..?? maybe, but whata ya gonna do..?? Mellow


ok so you are not a moron about this drafter


checks one of the reasons off the "drafter is a moron" list.
bloody spaniard Offline
#163 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 2:02 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
personally I made alot of money while Bush was in office... did that cloud my judgement..?? maybe, but whata ya gonna do..?? Mellow



That's understandable.
Lots of folks making money under Obama too- you can see them on truTV (dumb criminals, pawn shops, repossessions, storage bidders...).
FuzzNJ Offline
#164 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 2:41 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
That's understandable.
Lots of folks making money under Obama too- you can see them on truTV (dumb criminals, pawn shops, repossessions, storage bidders...).


And scientists who make up stuff just to get rich. You know those rich money grubbing research scientists with all their b*tches and wh*res wearing all that bling riding around town in their Bentley's. Crystal ya'll.
bloody spaniard Offline
#165 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 2:58 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
And scientists who make up stuff just to get rich. You know those rich money grubbing research scientists with all their b*tches and wh*res wearing all that bling riding around town in their Bentley's. Crystal ya'll.


I think you're getting Pharma execs & investors mixed up with their medical lackeys who vie for grants & jobs like poodles by making up stuff.
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#166 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 3:12 PM EST
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robertknyc wrote:
I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11.


That's so beautiful right there. Don't think that can be improved upon really. Might have to bookmark this one.
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#167 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 3:13 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I think you're getting Pharma execs & investors mixed up with their medical lackeys who vie for grants & jobs like poodles by making up stuff.


I've said often, it's really hard to keep up with the conspiracies. Sometimes the bad guys turn out to be the good guys in other stories.
borndead1 Offline
#168 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 8:29 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
Perpetual war: Obama yes, Romney yes

Continue drug war, no medical marijuana even if states allow it: Obama yes, Romney yes

Patriot Act: Obama yes, Romney yes

NDAA: Obama yes, Romney yes

Interventionist foreign policy: Obama yes, Romney yes

Foreign aid: Obama yes, Romney yes

Government health care with individual mandate: Obama yes, Romney yes

Bailouts and "stimulus": Obama yes, Romney yes

Stronger handgun control, assault weapons ban: Obama yes, Romney yes

Federal Reserve-controlled economy/no oversight or audit of Fed: Obama yes, Romney yes

Assassination of American citizens without a trial: Obama yes , Romney yes

Campaign funded by Wall St.: Obama yes, Romney yes




I still don't see anyone disputing this.
HockeyDad Offline
#169 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 9:02 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
I still don't see anyone disputing this.


No disputing it. We globalists control everything.
teedubbya Offline
#170 Posted: Fri, Jul 13 2012, 9:54 PM EST
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Ya have to admit bush was sort of dreamy.
HockeyDad Offline
#171 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 6:41 AM EST
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I always viewed GWB as a placeholder until a real Republican came along. Then 9/11 happened and he had to be a real President. 9/11 changed everything.
bloody spaniard Offline
#172 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:14 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I always viewed GWB as a placeholder until a real Republican came along. Then 9/11 happened and he had to be a real President. 9/11 changed everything.



Well, I'll give him an A for trying but an F for actual performance when it came to domestic policy. He was the patron saint of multi- national conglomerates who profited from his thriving nation-building. Also thoughtful and considerate enough to send our wounded military "get well" notes. Wonder how many Iraquis he relocated in Michigan after bombing their country?Think
GIBrett Offline
#173 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:23 AM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
Perpetual war: Obama yes, Romney yes

Continue drug war, no medical marijuana even if states allow it: Obama yes, Romney yes

Patriot Act: Obama yes, Romney yes

NDAA: Obama yes, Romney yes

Interventionist foreign policy: Obama yes, Romney yes

Foreign aid: Obama yes, Romney yes

Government health care with individual mandate: Obama yes, Romney yes

Bailouts and "stimulus": Obama yes, Romney yes

Stronger handgun control, assault weapons ban: Obama yes, Romney yes

Federal Reserve-controlled economy/no oversight or audit of Fed: Obama yes, Romney yes

Assassination of American citizens without a trial: Obama yes , Romney yes

Campaign funded by Wall St.: Obama yes, Romney yes


What I'm about to say makes me a confrontational asshat, and I don't care, I'm saying it anyway...If you vote for either one of these puppets, YOU are destroying America. YOU are to blame for what's wrong in this country. YOU are a puppet as well.


One important question you left out and it's the only one that matter to me

Marxist and Socialist ideology: Obama Yes, Romney NO!!!!!!!!
bloody spaniard Offline
#174 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:43 AM EST
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GIBrett, I learned long ago that there are no real winners in face slapping contests.
The Libertarian crowd is always going to back a loser & help the incumbent retain power. It's just the way it is.Blink
FuzzNJ Offline
#175 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:44 AM EST
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GIBrett wrote:
One important question you left out and it's the only one that matter to me

Marxist and Socialist ideology: Obama Yes, Romney NO!!!!!!!!


marxist. lmao

Obama brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Bush and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11.
ZRX1200 Offline
#176 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:48 AM EST
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Fabian socialist.


Brought back?


Yeah ok.......printed fiat money and banks re-inflated. Great.


PRAISE DER LEADER FOR SAVING UNION PENSIONS!
teedubbya Offline
#177 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:55 AM EST
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Obama looks nothing like Groucho.

I heard bush is being added to Rushmore. The back side.
bloody spaniard Offline
#178 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 11:56 AM EST
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Sieg Heil, comrade!
Careful, ZRX, you're offending Fuzz's god.


Neither Obama nor Bush had a clue. The economy has a life of it's own.
FuzzNJ Offline
#179 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:06 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Fabian socialist.


Brought back?


Yeah ok.......printed fiat money and banks re-inflated. Great.


PRAISE DER LEADER FOR SAVING UNION PENSIONS!



robertknyc wrote:
Bloody, I'm not arguing that Bush was fantastic or the like, that's not my point. I'm saying that he brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Clinton and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11.


FuzzNJ wrote:
Obama brought the country back from the recession he inherited from Bush and helped to prevent any further attacks after 9/11.



But Robert is correct, right?

lmao.
bloody spaniard Offline
#180 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:09 PM EST
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You laugh at your own jokes?Confused
I think we've already determined that the economy would have bounced back regardless of whomever was at the helm. It was just a matter of time...Brick wall
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#181 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:10 PM EST
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Tech bubble fiat money

Housing bubble fiat money

No bubble highest rate of spending fiat money.
FuzzNJ Offline
#182 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:12 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
You laugh at your own jokes?Confused


No.

See in that context I was laughing at absurd statements that pass as logical. I didn't make a joke at all.

Should I be putting these explanations in all my posts?
FuzzNJ Offline
#183 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:15 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Tech bubble fiat money

Housing bubble fiat money

No bubble highest rate of spending fiat money.


And, there's no bubble now so. . .?

A bubble before it pops means things are actually doing really good, artificially inflated, but still good. Bubble pops and economy goes boom. If the tech bubble burst during Clinton's term and created the 'Clinton recession' and the housing bubble burst during Bush's term how does that make it the Obama recession?
teedubbya Offline
#184 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:35 PM EST
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Anything happening now is on Obama.

Bush helped make sure 911 didn't happen again.

Easy peasy.
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#185 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:37 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Anything happening now is on Obama.

Bush helped make sure 911 didn't happen again.

Easy peasy.


Did Bush make sure 911 did happen though since it happened when he was President?
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#186 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:41 PM EST
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Bush was simply trying to fix all the **** Clinton ruined or neglected.

Obama ruined everything and all that happens now is his fault and has nothing to do with anything before him. You need to let go of all this bush hate.

It's simple really. You just must be dumb.
teedubbya Offline
#187 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:41 PM EST
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911 was Clinton's fault but bush fixed it.
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#188 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:47 PM EST
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GIBrett wrote:
One important question you left out and it's the only one that matter to me

Marxist and Socialist ideology: Obama Yes, Romney NO!!!!!!!!



So, by your logic, even though they are the same on almost everything, Romney is somehow different? Because he says so in his speeches, right?



Obama isn't a socialist. He's a fascist. Just like Romney.
teedubbya Offline
#189 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 12:49 PM EST
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All Romney needs to be is not Obama. That's all you need to know.
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#190 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:03 PM EST
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There is a huge bubble now. Our entire economy is inflated and waiting to collapse.

A few weeks ago a friend of mine was trying to tell me that a lot of our problems came from Europe and the fact that the Euro is collapsing. I asked him if he remembers when the Euro and the dollar were worth the same. He said yes. Then I asked him if he knew what this "worthless Euro" is worth now. He said no... It's worth about $1.30... So I asked him what that meant about the dollar and how much it's really worth and what he thought they weren't telling us about our own inflation. He was speechless...
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#191 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:07 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Did Bush make sure 911 did happen though since it happened when he was President?


I wouldn't say 911 was Bush's fault it was the fault of years of ignoring a growing problem under multiple administrations. American had felt untouchable. As a 9/11 responder and an Army Vet I can tell you that my opinion is that the only blame to be placed should be put on the backs of the people that had the information of many problems leading up to that attack and choose to do nothing.
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#192 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:27 PM EST
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Um. In here you can not blame previous administrations. If it happens on your watch it's on you.

Thinking in 3d is not allowed.

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#193 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:28 PM EST
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GIBrett wrote:
I wouldn't say 911 was Bush's fault it was the fault of years of ignoring a growing problem under multiple administrations. American had felt untouchable. As a 9/11 responder and an Army Vet I can tell you that my opinion is that the only blame to be placed should be put on the backs of the people that had the information of many problems leading up to that attack and choose to do nothing.


That would be a reasonable response and one in which everyone could agree.

That's not what we're getting from anyone who has a loud voice, unfortunately.
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#194 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:29 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Um. In here you can not blame previous administrations. If it happens on your watch it's on you.

Thinking in 3d is not allowed.



There is enough 'blame' to go around. But that's not what's happening, or what ever happens. Then sh*t stays broken.
teedubbya Offline
#195 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:30 PM EST
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Clinton blew up an aspirin factory.
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#196 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:30 PM EST
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FuzzNJ wrote:
That would be a reasonable response and one in which everyone could agree.

That's not what we're getting from anyone who has a loud voice, unfortunately.



Please.


Anybody tried for Treason yet? NOPE.


STFU!
teedubbya Offline
#197 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:31 PM EST
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Why does he hate aspirin?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#198 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:31 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Why does he hate aspirin?


Cause he don't need to provide an excuse for a girl that won't swallow!
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#199 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:37 PM EST
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GIBrett wrote:
I wouldn't say 911 was Bush's fault it was the fault of years of ignoring a growing problem under multiple administrations. American had felt untouchable. As a 9/11 responder and an Army Vet I can tell you that my opinion is that the only blame to be placed should be put on the backs of the people that had the information of many problems leading up to that attack and choose to do nothing.








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#200 Posted: Sat, Jul 14 2012, 1:42 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Clinton blew up an aspirin factory.


Bush blew up an embassy.
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