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State of the republican party???
HockeyDad Offline
#51 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Sounds like France needs some Chik-filas to open up.... Mellow



Filet de Coq!
Brewha Offline
#52 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Sounds like France needs some Chik-filas to open up.... Mellow

Well, we all know they got chickens in France . . . .
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#53 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I understand the vitriol in here. I felt the very same way that a bunch of morons voted bush back in knowing what a POS he was because somehow the other guy was going to be worse (arguably not possible). Same thing happened here. It just sucks when the shoe is on the other foot and it is much more tragic.....


I honestly don't think everyone has a clear view of reality. Over the past 4 years my work load has increased, my pay has increased, my capabilities and opportunities have increased.
I don't like some of Obama's policies (I really don't like Obamacare) but the country has not imploded and those that are convinced he is personally to blame for their hardships perhaps need to reflect a bit on what may have actually caused it.

Easier to blame a president for a lost job than yourself.
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teedubbya wrote:
I understand the vitriol in here. I felt the very same way that a bunch of morons voted bush back in knowing what a POS he was because somehow the other guy was going to be worse (arguably not possible). Same thing happened here.





Many Voters Still Blame Bush for Bad Economy


Rising prices and chronic unemployment were heavy on the minds of voters Tuesday even as a glimmer of optimism peeked through. Four in 10 said the nation's battered economy is getting better.

Most everyone agreed there's still far to go. They were less likely to blame President Barack Obama for the economic troubles, however, than to point the finger at his predecessor, George W. Bush, according to preliminary results of a national exit poll.

Only a fourth thought they were better off financially than four years ago when Obama was elected. Voters were most likely to say their families were doing about the same. A third felt worse off.

The survey of voters as they left polling places showed 6 in 10 ranked the economy the top issue, far ahead of health care, the federal budget deficit or foreign policy. The majority who don't yet see economic improvement were roughly divided over whether things were getting even worse or just stuck in place.

About 4 in 10 blamed Obama for the nation's economic woes.

Joseph Neat, a stay-at-home father in Hagerstown, Md., said he voted for Republican Mitt Romney because Obama hasn't solved the problems hurting families like his, especially gasoline prices that he called "insane."

"We don't have time for him to make changes. We need the changes now," Neat said of Obama. "And four years is plenty of time."

Three-fourths of voters said the economy is poor or not so good. But many like William Mullins of Lansing, Mich., felt Obama inherited the problems.

"Obama had a lot to deal with when he came to office," Mullins said. "You can't change everything overnight."

They pointed to years of high unemployment and rising prices as the biggest troubles for people like them; those two worries far outstripped concerns about the housing market or taxes in the exit polls conducted for The Associated Press and television networks.

Only a quarter of voters were feeling enthusiastic about Obama's administration; about as many said they're angry about it.

About half said government is doing too many things better left to businesses and individuals, a point hammered by Romney throughout the campaign. Only 4 in 10 wanted government to do more.

"I haven't had a raise in two years because of Obama's anti-business policies," said Ken Keller, a Schaumburg, Ill., engineer who voted for Romney.

But voters were more likely to say Obama stands for the middle class or the poor. The Obama campaign's insistence that the multimillionaire Romney would do more for well-heeled Americans seems to have taken hold in voters' minds.

Half of voters said they think the former Massachusetts governor's policies generally favor the rich and barely any thought he favors the poor.

"I don't think Romney understands people who are down and out," said Cari Herling, an insurance analyst from Sun Prairie, Wis.

In contrast, only about 1 in 10 said Obama, who has pushed higher taxes for the wealthy, favors rich Americans. About half of voters said taxes should be raised on income over $250,000 per year.

For Obama, the biggest group — 4 in 10 — said his policies help the middle class, with the poor coming in a close second.

Voters tended to think the U.S. economic system as a whole generally favors the wealthy.

Nearly two-thirds of voters said they thought illegal immigrants working in the United States should be offered a chance to apply for legal status, instead of being deported.

In a race that's been neck-and-neck for months, about 1 in 10 voters said they'd only settled on their presidential choice within the last few days or even on Election Day.

The survey of 19,728 voters was conducted for the AP and the television networks by Edison Research. This includes preliminary results from interviews conducted as voters left a random sample of 350 precincts nationally Tuesday, as well as 4,389 who voted early or absentee and were interviewed by landline or cellular telephone from Oct. 29 through Nov. 4. Results for the full sample were subject to sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points; it is higher for subgroups.

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Associated Press writers David Dishneau in Hagerstown, Md., and Todd Richmond in Sun Prairie, Wis., contributed to this report.

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Online: http://surveys.ap.org/exitpolls






YEAH...whatever he said!horse
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#55 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I smiled as I saw the simple minded minions waving little flags and happily dancing last night as though they were going to gush with flowers and candy canes. Ahhhhhhh, does the heart good to see naivete & innocence thriving.

Let's see how long it lasts. (giggling)


You shoulda seen the party in Tehran.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
#56 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I understand the vitriol in here. I felt the very same way that a bunch of morons voted bush back in knowing what a POS he was because somehow the other guy was going to be worse (arguably not possible). Same thing happened here. It just sucks when the shoe is on the other foot and it is much more tragic.....



Lissen Blubberino, other Reaganites abstained from voting or went with Kerry on principle.
You weren't the only one.
HockeyDad Offline
#57 Posted:
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drywalldog wrote:
HD, you had to have this election, if economy turns around under Obama, what can you sell next time.



I never had to have this election. I did just fine under the Obama Cone of Protection....stimulus money is fun to spend! Another stimulus package to keep the economy turning around that funnels more money to Le HockeyDad that your children will one day have to pay for sounds just fine to me!
bloody spaniard Offline
#58 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
You shoulda seen the party in Tehran.... Mellow



Saw the Twin Tower theme parties they threw too!ThumpUp
HockeyDad Offline
#59 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I honestly don't think everyone has a clear view of reality. Over the past 4 years my work load has increased, my pay has increased, my capabilities and opportunities have increased.



I can make the exact same claim but I'm not sure we are the majority on this one. Sucks for them for not being under the Cone.
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#60 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
You shoulda seen the party in Tehran.... Mellow



Sharia don't like it, Rockin' the Casbah
bloody spaniard Offline
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There are just not enough of us older, white guys around any more to keep this country great.
Republicans need to buy, er, attract more of the black, latino (illegal or not), golden Depends parachute, and idiot soccer mom vote.

Beer
DrMaddVibe Offline
#62 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I honestly don't think everyone has a clear view of reality. Over the past 4 years my work load has increased, my pay has increased, my capabilities and opportunities have increased.
I don't like some of Obama's policies (I really don't like Obamacare) but the country has not imploded and those that are convinced he is personally to blame for their hardships perhaps need to reflect a bit on what may have actually caused it.

Easier to blame a president for a lost job than yourself.



Yeah. Me too!

Here's my reality though!

Over the past 4 years my workload has increased because we've scaled back from 16 people to 4 on my team. They've also migrated 4 other Fortune 500 networks into one we were already tasked with!

We did get a 2.5% raise this past year AND they restored the 5% they took away 3 years ago...plus last week I worked 33.5 hours of overtime! I'm lucky enough to be salaried WITH overtime! So if a teammate is sick, on vacation or on a project MY opportunities have increased because of my capabilities!

I don't like ANY of Owedumba's policies and the country IS imploding. The compliant media isn't reporting it in any way, shape or fashion! When you're stupid enough to add 4 + TRILLION to the incredible and outrageous debt pile then anyone paying attention to KNOWS he caused his own problems.

When we have the most divisive Vacationer In Chief telling us we didn't build things, it's all because of some YouTube video or acting stupidly he gets every damn bit of blame he deserves!


PS: ALL UNDER THE CONE OF PROTECTION TOO!!!! Now I'm gonna brag about it. I was kinda embarassed by it but WTF...its not MY company!
Brewha Offline
#63 Posted:
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And to counter Obama phones, they should have promised HDTV’s.
Could a called ‘em RomneyVision.
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Lissen Blubberino, other Reaganites abstained from voting or went with Kerry on principle.
You weren't the only one.


Yes you did blood. But many/most in here did not.

Reagan wanted a bigger tent not a smaller tent. I'm not sure what the party hopes to gain by driving the moderates out and marginalizing the party.

Folks in here may be right about me. Maybe I'm not a republican anymore. The party I knew and was very active in has moved and made it clear they don't want me or my type (I know I know...rugby player) in it. I relate more to the Rs in more areas than I do the Ds but to the Rs it seems to be 100% agreement or you are the enemy. That is a long term recipe for failure, and it certainly is not Reagenesque.

Meh. If the party swings back to normalcy I'm still here. If they don't they really don't care if I'm i nthe tent or not.

In the meantime I'll eat circus peanuts and watch the tent shrink as my waistline increases.

teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted:
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ps the sky is falling the sky is falling

dig a hole and buy a generator


rolling eyes
teedubbya Offline
#66 Posted:
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to all the Rs out there


wanna go camping?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#67 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
to all the Rs out there


wanna go camping?



The bank foreclosed on your house?

OH NOES!!!
teedubbya Offline
#68 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
The bank foreclosed on your house?

OH NOES!!!


nah I just heard if they wake up with dirt on their hands and knees and a rubber hanging out their ass their religion will not allow them to admit it to anyone
DrMaddVibe Offline
#69 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
nah I just heard if they wake up with dirt on their hands and knees and a rubber hanging out their ass their religion will not allow them to admit it to anyone



Freaking muslims!horse
bloody spaniard Offline
#70 Posted:
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LOL! TW, you're in better shape than most, my friend.

Not sure what is happening either but the demographics are certainly changing quickly and the Democrats have tapped into that.
I think I'll "retire" from politics & just keep my nose to the grindstone & blinders on til I get driven off the cliff.
Sorry for the mixed metaphors but I didn't stop my flu vaccines soon enough.lol


I love the tangy dynamics between you & DMV, Victor, Brehaw, Pdx, HD, rfenst, gene, drywall, Z and several others on this board.
teedubbya Offline
#71 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Freaking muslims!horse


Yup. The whole R party has been taken over by them
bloody spaniard Offline
#72 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Freaking muslims!horse



LOL!!

racist blaggard
teedubbya Offline
#73 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
LOL! TW, you're in better shape than most, my friend.

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Bloody we all make choices. Short term some of mine worked against me, but long term they seem to be working alright. It wasn't dumb luck. I chose my path (education, work, family) and yes have had a little luck mixed in as well. I had some bad luck as well....like everyone else. I am fortunate though, I have a good job that fits my education, a beautiful wife, awsome kids, and a dog that eats my socks.

I didn't envy those that chose a different path and seemed to be doing better than I in the short run anymore than I wished they would fall off the cliff when their riskier endevours fell through. I hope they pick back up and excel.

It's like investing in the markets or bonds/cds etc. pick your path but don't envy or wish ill will on others that chose the other path.

beleive it or not I work my ass off, and will continue to. And I am damn good at what I do. just ask me LOL.
bloody spaniard Offline
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^ yada yada yada... I was talking about your physical appearance/weight/shape, douche. You had made a reference to your waistline. LOL
Come to think of it, you've had your health issues, haven't you?
Wonder how Obamacare will help people outside the Government with similar illnessess? Especially the struggling class. (serious question)


And no, I don't begrudge what you've accomplished in your life. Aside from your spelling, it's commendable.
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#75 Posted:
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The entire party is dead...just like it was after the 2008 election cycle...it has no chance of ever regaining...ooops...nevermind....
teedubbya Offline
#76 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
^ yada yada yada... I was talking about your physical appearance/weight/shape, douche. You had made a reference to your waistline. LOL
Come to think of it, you've had your health issues, haven't you?
Wonder how Obamacare will help people outside the Government with similar illnessess? Especially the struggling class. (serious question)


And no, I don't begrudge what you've accomplished in your life. Aside from your spelling, it's commendable.


If that is the case, then I am in worse shape than most.

Interesting thing about my illness. Being a pre-existing condition it would have required I stay in my current job and remove many options.

My brother had a heart condition and died when he was 8. My dad had to pass up many oppertunities with other employers because he could not afford the repercussions on the health insurance side. After my brother died he had a short window until my mom almost died of bacterial menningitis. He retired early and stayed on the group plan paying $1200 a month for their insurance until they went on Medicare. I am proud of my dad but beleive his potential was limited by circumstance. Wha Wha wha. It always will be to some extent.

I don't like Obama care and am someone who has studied health care delivery systems and worked in them for many years. But like anything else there is some good and some bad in it. Overall.... not a great thing. But there are some good parts. It sure would have helped my dad, and it gives me some oppertunities I didn't have. I'm an incrementalist. I think many of the components of Obama care are good and many are not. They shouldn't have put the whole hodgepodge in place. They should have put a few out there, assessed them, then tweaked them and moved on. Politics did not allow that, the broad brush statements in here are a testiment to that.

And there are costs/downsides as well (of course).

YMMV
HockeyDad Offline
#77 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
And to counter Obama phones, they should have promised HDTV’s.
Could a called ‘em RomneyVision.



HockeyDad TV? Outrageous.
teedubbya Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
HockeyDad TV? Outrageous.


I think he meant HockeyDadTransVestites
HockeyDad Offline
#79 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I think he meant HockeyDadTransVestites



So I've got your subscription set to start on Friday.
teedubbya Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
So I've got your subscription set to start on Friday.


cool. just charge the monthly fee to my obamacard
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Hey guys chill.

And by the way, where do I go to get all the FREE stuff?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#82 Posted:
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Uh oh...we might have a undocumented here!


UNSCANABLE!!!!
teedubbya Offline
#83 Posted:
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I only vote for folks that will give me free stuff
Brewha Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I only vote for folks that will give me free stuff

Dude, you got an Obamacard????
I still can’t even get my lousy iPhone 5 upgrade (with 64gb)! I would protest this except I would not want to deal with copies of HockeyDadTransVestite coming to my home – not even in a plain brown wrapper. Wear gloves – several pairs . . .
teedubbya Offline
#85 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Dude, you got an Obamacard????
I still can’t even get my lousy iPhone 5 upgrade (with 64gb)! I would protest this except I would not want to deal with copies of HockeyDadTransVestite coming to my home – not even in a plain brown wrapper. Wear gloves – several pairs . . .


I couldn't afford the scratch and sniff version of HDTV
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teedubbya wrote:
I couldn't afford the scratch and sniff version of HDTV

That image will haunt my dreams . . . .
teedubbya Offline
#87 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
That image will haunt my dreams . . . .



from what I hear it really just smells like cooked cabbage and carny sweat
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teedubbya wrote:
from what I hear it really just smells like cooked cabbage and carny sweat



Don't knock a good carny chick!!! I like em with big ol' floppy funbags stuffed into a tube top and a "go funny" eye that doesn't quite keep up with the other one. That's what Obama promised me.


and corn dogs....lots and lots of corn dogs
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#89 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
It is not nice to call people Nazi collaborators. Do you see the Democrats as Nazi-equivalent?!



My intent was to use the enemy collaborator analogy, not specifically the Nazi part of it. Globalists cooperate with or co-opt whatever party or persons suit their interests. To that extent the analogy is apt.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
There are just not enough of us older, white guys around any more to keep this country great.
Republicans need to buy, er, attract more of the black, latino (illegal or not), golden Depends parachute, and idiot soccer mom vote.

Beer



Jimmy the Greek rises from the dead!!!!
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted:
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Free Jimmy!
bloody spaniard Offline
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pdxstogieman wrote:
Jimmy the Greek rises from the dead!!!!


Nice try but I'm a hispanic/latino. Hispanic/latinos can't be racist even if they're white.
HAHAHA- hoisted by your own petard- you made the rules, gringo.

...and of course, we know Jimmy was wrong. Human eugenics was virtually impossible especially during slavery. (giggling some more)
Herfing
pdxstogieman Offline
#93 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Free Jimmy!


Hoffa
HockeyDad Offline
#94 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Dude, you got an Obamacard????
I still can’t even get my lousy iPhone 5 upgrade (with 64gb)! I would protest this except I would not want to deal with copies of HockeyDadTransVestite coming to my home – not even in a plain brown wrapper. Wear gloves – several pairs . . .



In that case, don't open a package that arrives from Montreal.
teedubbya Offline
#95 Posted:
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CT
teedubbya Offline
#96 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Nice try but I'm a hispanic/latino. Hispanic/latinos can't be racist even if they're white.
HAHAHA- hoisted by your own petard- you made the rules, gringo.

...and of course, we know Jimmy was wrong. Human eugenics was virtually impossible especially during slavery. (giggling some more)
Herfing


every eugene I know is a nerd and terrible at anything athletic.

you don't know ****
HockeyDad Offline
#97 Posted:
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pdxstogieman wrote:
My intent was to use the enemy collaborator analogy, not specifically the Nazi part of it.


Your apology is accepted.


pdxstogieman wrote:
Globalists cooperate with or co-opt whatever party or persons suit their interests. To that extent the analogy is apt.


Well....yes. Yes we do co-opt whatever suits our interests. Go Obama!
teedubbya Offline
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And remember.... Obama spelt backwards is amabo
bloody spaniard Offline
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^ amabo to you as well, my nubian brother colombo


HockeyDad wrote:
Filet de Coq!




I'm still trying to wrest a response to this. Pray
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Le HockeyDad: Leaving them speechless since 2000!
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