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I'm still digesting Obama steak with sauerkraut & the works!

did you get the horsey sauce?

the truth is once you run accross bad bush it is hard to forget it.

There are several reasons I voted Libertarian this year.
1. I am aregistered Libertarian.
2. Romney changed stances, on issues, more often than a cheap hooker changes Johns. I didn't know where he stood on the issues, from one day to the next.
3. He was talking about lowering tax rates, and eliminating deductions, but would not reveal what deductions would be eliminated. I am sorry, but there are several deductions, that I rely on heavily.
4. He chose Ryan as a running mate. He is a nutjob.

In my opinion, the Republican party lost all credibility, on fiscal issues, during the first shrub term. They never met a spending bill they didn't like, as long as they were spending the money. Defcits be damned.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. Their marrige to the religous right, is destined to run off many more than just me.

My State, Mississippi, Is one of the poorest states in the nation, yet Republican? Go figure..............

That is something I really don't understand, about my state as well. Besides our conservative Democrat Governor, Arkansas is very Republican. If the Republicans reduce the safety net, Welfare, Rental Assistance, WIC, and other federal funding back, it is the red states that will have a large part of their population suffering. Look how many Landlords would have to lower their rents, or their apartment buildings would be vacant. How many grocery stores, would have to make do, without all the $$$ that are spent in food stamps. How many homeless people, with starving children, can the red states handle.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. This is not my idea. I heard this argument the other day, and it got me to thinking. What would happen, if the safety net dollars quit flowing. I wonder if the government would actually save money, or would they have to spend more, on Law Enforcement, and Prisons, as desperate people turned to crime, to feed, clothe, and house their families.

Electoral College, popular vote, and Florida, I like the direction the right is heading.Watch out for that cliff! Oh dam.

IMHO, they were mostly the ones who didn't like Romney, threw up their hands, & stayed away from the voting booth in greater numbers than they had for McLame & Winkie in 2008...

I think the Republicans squandered their opportunity to continue Reagan's legacy which wasn't perfect (outsourcing, illegal amnesty, etc.) but united almost everyone. A party which once supported religious liberties, individual responsibility/initiative, lower taxes (AND spending), & did no nation building but maintained strong unwavering alliances (mostly) with folks who had our best interests in mind. Lately, we've been going broke buying influence. Let China butt in other's internal affairs.

Perhaps if the Republicans become more rigidly conservative so that their base turns out instead of walking away from the Bushes, Doles, McCains, & Romneys of the world. To this day I still don't know how Dubya won a second term aside from the imagined threat... I don't think that Buchanan's or Paul's brand of romantic yet pragmatic isolationism/libertarianism will sell well to the majority either. OR if they can pander (more) to soccer moms, latinos, blacks, unions, gays, etc. just like the Democrats. Problem with that is that the Democrats have perfected pandering & one upmanship to a fine science.

So to answer your question, op, I don't know what the Republicans can do. One thing I do know is that I'm walking away from the political process.
I have been involved & sacrificed for it (95% Republican) since 1972 but it has rarely served me well.

Good luck, well-meaning, dancing monkees. The powers are amused & laugh at you.

...but hey, if it gives you reason to be or a meaning to life, knock yourself out. Here's a shovel.

Jade, the Republican party like the Democrat is full of gimmicks & 15 second sound bites which intimidate candidates into saying nothing "controversial". The Republicans stand for nothing except empty platitudes in their platform. They pander to flag, prayer, anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage, strong borders, and the American way only xenophobes (opposite of the Democrats). Yet they do absolutely nothing to advance them. There is no bigotry against gays, latinos, or lefthanded gay latinos who dislike contraception. That is against the law. If anything, they observe the law to a fault whether fair or not. There is also no real, substantive PUBLIC love for God and His commandments. That is considered a personal/private choice. Yet secularism (and materialism) is proudly proclaimed & practiced. So I don't think either major party attracts that base of us "rightwing nuts" any longer.

Again, I don't know what the Republicans should do other than disband and allow a strict (and literal) constitutionalist- like party to take its place. One that would still provide a safety net for the elderly, handicapped, and down on their luck through no fault of their own CITIZENS

People like you, brother, who live and let live on the edge of anything goes anarchy (practical nihilists?) should consider supporting... (deleted joke) Abbie Hoffman/Jerry Rubin-like retreads or similar. We can call you the dirty sanchezes alternative to the "tea baggers".

Pretty Close Jade. I was once a moderate Republican. But the pandering to the moral majority, a contradiction in terms if I ever saw one, and their total lack of fiscal conservatism. I am all for lower taxes, balanced with lowered spending. Part of the problem is that when Bush cut taxes, he expanded government spending at the same time. Also compounding the situation, was the outsourcing of middle class jobs. This totally undermined the benefit of lowering taxes. Yes, the job creators had more money to invest, but the jobs they created, were low paying jobs overseas, and redundant management jobs, to make themselves feel better about shipping the manufacturing jobs, to sweatshops in China and India. It will take the Libertarian protectionism, and higher taxes, to encourage those jobs, to be brought back to the US. Put high tariffs on import of foreign made goods. Have higher tax rates, on capital gains on those companies traded on US stock exchanges, that import goods into the US. Say one, publically traded corp, manufactures goods inside the US, for US consumption, but another corp manufactures goods, for US consumption, in China. Capital gains rates on the first companies stocks, and dividends, would be lowered to 10%, but the other companies capital gains rate would be bumped up to 30%.
All those folks that think that the rich folks would move, to other countries, I say BS. Name one country they could move to, with a lower income tax rate, and strong enough government to protect them from having their assets stolen from them? I am open to suggestions.

The national debt, which at one time could have been paid off, through just spending cuts, has gotten too big to be solved strictly through spending cuts. After we get the debt under control, the Libertarian model of small government, fiscal conservative, and socially moderate personal freedoms would work to keep the debt that way. Unfortunately, the Republican party, never met a spending bill, that they didn't like, as long as they were the party saying how the money was being spent. Deficit or no deficit.

Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

First of all.....I didn't call you a Wingnut. There is a strong difference between a true Republican and those who force their beliefs on everyone else. Secondly...you don't know me. You have no idea what I stand for. As far as "no bigotry"...well...let's just say the we will agree to disagree on that.

I think Ronald Reagan was one of the worst President this country has ever had...BUT....until the Repubs get another one like him and dump the zealots...they will NOT win.

Although I'm more of a spiritual guy over traditional religious, I'd say me, at quite a few others. Romney and Obama were even money to me. I don't believe in Obama or his policies at all. And because to me, my vote is a personal endorsement, there is no way I was voting for a guy that would say anything to anyone to get a vote.

My politics are closer to Romney, but he's nothing more than a pandering vote whore.

At least Obama believed in his *****ed up vision.

So, what you're saying is most of those jobs should return sometime in the next few years?

Well, the buzz phrase over the last year has been to preserve shareholder value. If we can get rid of all of these pesky jobs here in america over to china, the value will be preserved!

real good seeing you again, Chief!

We need to give them enough new debt that they do say "enough". Debt on!