victor809 wrote:While I think the original post is whiny and a bit of an exaggeration of reality, Brew, you're just as guilty of that.
Everyone gets to say "IF ONLY!" here....
Anti gun people are screaming "if only guns were outlawed, the criminal would only have stabbed one child!!!" (not sure how the anti-gun movement can call that a moral victory, sacrificing one child so 20 are saved? Only a victory if you're going be sheer body counts).
Gun people are screaming "If only every principal were armed!!! So many fewer would have been killed!!!" (again, not sure how that's really a victory, but even then, you have to add to that total any additional gun accidents that may happen at schools)...
The reality is that either fake situation is an unknown and BOTH sides are simply making **** up to suit their own purposes. The REALITY is that if you make it difficult to kill people (either by restricting access to guns, or by making sure armed principles are everywhere) then those interested in killing people will adapt. No guns? Hell, block all the windows and doors and torch the building killing 100 kids. All the principles are armed? Hell, block all the windows and doors and gas the entire school, killing 300 kids and 20 admins. Schools too tough to get to because all the principles are armed? Put some spike strips in front of a bus and board it after it runs off the road, kill all the kids one by one as you go down the aisle.
So before any of you pro-gun or anti-gun idiots decide to make up some retarded situation where your specific cause saves the day, realize that this PARTICULAR situation may not occur in your fantasy land, but millions of other situations, some better, some much much worse, will occur. You simply don't know if making it too difficult to go on a shooting rampage won't simply inspire a potential mass-murderer to get more creative and much more deadly.
For once, victor gets it right.
Kudos.
Plus, I think the worst tragedy when it comes to schools and dead kids was some 95 kids who died in a fire set by an arsonist back in the 1950s.
I equate people who think that by eliminating guns that this will stop this kind of insanity to those people who refuse to discipline their kids because they are "afraid" to inhibit their self expression, damage their "self-esteem", or other such claptrap. The reality is that they either can't be bothered to take time to deal with their children, or lack the courage to do so. So they let their kids run around like a bunch of wild animals, and hope that somehow they don't kill themselves or someone else in the process.
And if they catch Junior trying to stick a fork in the wall socket, they'll either lock the cabinet doors, plug the wall sockets, or disconnect the eletrical mains from the house because Junior just won't "listen." The reality is that Junior won't listen because he's been conditioned to ignore his parents, and frankly doesn't give a crap about what they say. Or maybe, just maybe, Junior is insistant because he realizes that his parents are a bunch of limp-wristed twits who care less about him than themselves, and he starts doing all of this nasty stuff just to spite them.
And when Junior gets to be 21? By this time his personality is set. Sometimes Junior learns from his actions, and becomes a human being. Other times, Junior just remains an animal.
Parents have kids, then get divorced when marriage becomes "too rough," and expect their kids to "understand" the situation. A lot of parents these days either don't provide some sort of moral guidance, or don't have a real working moral compass themselves, and thus the kids get no boundries to their behavior. You can't yell at your kid, or will be thrown into jail if you dare spank them (heaven forbid!). Any definitions about decency and behavior are relative, because the world will come crashing down if someone is not 100% perfect in any way, and then dares to condemn what would have been inconceivable behavior 50 years ago. We have a culture where video games show realistic beheadings, where "music" glorifies thug life, and people push killing your unborn children as being good for the "family" or "society." Likewise, if life beciomes too rough when you're ill, we offer ways to help "ease" your passing. I won't even get into how some scholors these days question whether children are even human because they are not fully developed.
The reality is that when a kid reaches adulthood these days, they're taught that the certanties of the past, and the honorable nature of great men are a lie, that there is no real definition of right and wrong, and that there is really no sanctity of human life. Because, in the end, what they've been taught is that - in one form or the other - the world revolves around them. Either because they've never been told that the world doesn't revolve around them, or they learned from countless years of neglect, isolation, and apathy that they are the only constant in the Universe. So when their fragile egos are handed a "grevious" wound by people, or life in general, there is nothing there to restrain the unhinged, untempered desire for redress.
And then people get all in a froth when this kind of stuff happens.
Yeah, just blame guns. Its easier than having to tackle the real problem.
