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Are we INSANE?????
DrMaddVibe Offline
#151 Posted:
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Presidentin' be hard.horse
ZRX1200 Offline
#152 Posted:
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We need a thread ^……
bloody spaniard Offline
#153 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
You should not end your sentences with a proposition.
Just sayin'

rfenst wrote:
I don't think anyone got it...



naa, wee diin't... tooo dificults... head hurtz... globs jelly breinz nut smatrz...aak gaak daaak glabba babba doozzz... helppp...Confused

Obama back from G20 golf yet? Thank God we have a brilliant crew for our foreign policy with Bluto at the helm.
Phew, we could have had a nincompoop like Romney.Anxious


I didn’t draw the red line on Syria, world did... ~~~Barak Bluto Blutarsky

ZRX1200 Offline
#154 Posted:
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And the sycophants ate their schit sandwiches with glee.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#155 Posted:
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Whistle ....and the war machine keeps turnin'...
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#156 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:


I didn’t draw the red line on Syria, world did... ~~~Barak Bluto Blutarsky




and that's all it takes... his followers will believe and repeat this for years to come..... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#157 Posted:
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It is important to note that the ordered outrage is not because people died in Syria. 100,000 have already died and we could care less. The outrage is HOW they died in the recent attack.

People need to be killed in appropriate ways. Curbside executions, buried in rubble, burned, sniped, cruise missiled, shocked & awed, MOABed, crushed by tanks, artillery bombarded, etc.
DrafterX Offline
#158 Posted:
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true... true.... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#159 Posted:
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so, why didn't we bomb Iraq when they killed all the Iranians with the WMDs..?? Think
HockeyDad Offline
#160 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
so, why didn't we bomb Iraq when they killed all the Iranians with the WMDs..?? Think



We supplied those WMDs. Plus there was no red line.
DrafterX Offline
#161 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
We supplied those WMDs. Plus there was no red line.



Think Think
I figured we just hated Iranians.... Mellow


Damn the world for creating the Red Line..!! Mad
HockeyDad Offline
#162 Posted:
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We don't like Iranians. That is the next middle east war after Syria is completely destabilized. Keep the eye on the prize. It is Iran.
snowwolf777 Offline
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All wild guessing on what's gonna happen aside, it is a small comfort to see BHO in the trick box now with the Middle East. It was so very easy to strut around and second guess GW while voting "present" on every tough decision. Not so much now. Not talking
DrafterX Offline
#164 Posted:
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Obama drew a line... and people died... Mellow
rfenst Offline
#165 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
It is important to note that the ordered outrage is not because people died in Syria. 100,000 have already died and we could care less. The outrage is HOW they died in the recent attack.

People need to be killed in appropriate ways. Curbside executions, buried in rubble, burned, sniped, cruise missiled, shocked & awed, MOABed, crushed by tanks, artillery bombarded, etc.



Rules of engagement prohibiting the use of mustard gas and the like arose out of WWI. Those who survived such attacks were horribly maimed for life. Most of the world agreed to ban them. This has brought this forward to the present.
snowwolf777 Offline
#166 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Rules of engagement prohibiting the use of mustard gas and the like arose out of WWI. Those who survived such attacks were horribly maimed for life. Most of the world agreed to ban them. This has brought this forward to the present.



Rules of engagement have never been much of a deterrent when dealing with dictators, regimes, strongmen, president-for-life, supreme leaders, terrorists, and whatnot.
rfenst Offline
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Putin stops delivery of an arms order to Syria and says force is appropriate if there is solid proof and a U.N. resolution. Seems like he doesn't disagree with the U.S. at this point.

Congressional Committee votes to use force.

Is Obama building a coalition of sorts here?
snowwolf777 Offline
#168 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Putin stops delivery of an arms order to Syria and says force is appropriate if there is solid proof and a U.N. resolution. Seems like he doesn't disagree with the U.S. at this point.

Congressional Committee votes to use force.

Is Obama building a coalition of sorts here?



Yes.

Hope he enjoys the decades of second-guessing whatever happens. Couldn't happen to a nicer Monday Morning Quarterback.

Odd to see Vlad Poontang back-pedaling. Must really, really want to be pals again with BHO.
DrafterX Offline
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starting to sounds like CNN really pulled this thing off..... Mellow
ZRX1200 Offline
#170 Posted:
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I call b******* Robert.


Chemical weapons don't count as WMDs don't you remember? Even if they've been used to gas 100,000 people.... selective outrage!
ZRX1200 Offline
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Putin can lip service all he wants to please you Robert. What action Russia takes in the UN is a better barometer than a sound bite.

Also sounds more even headed than dumbo jumping the investigarive findings doesn't it?

I know battling our echo chamber here is fun.
ZRX1200 Offline
#172 Posted:
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Rupublican obstructionists= unpatriotic complicit murderes

Democrat obstructionists= patriotic warriors battling a rogue cowboy bafoon president




Got it.
snowwolf777 Offline
#173 Posted:
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The other problem (OK, there are many) is that there will be no "winner" in this. You have the dictator who is gassing his people (and who can forget the images of Lurch having a fancy dinner with him 2 years ago). Or the Muslim Brotherhood and various terrorist off-shoots who are fighting for the power there. I'm sure they'll do a much better job of handling all those chemical weapons that were gifted to them by Saddam. All those WMDs that never existed.Not talking

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#174 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
We don't like Iranians. That is the next middle east war after Syria is completely destabilized. Keep the eye on the prize. It is Iran.

you made me listen to the Iranian war drum beat for two freakin years of postings and now you say it's on deck? and then N Korea? Maybe others? You never mentioned Syria. How did Syria get cutsies? why didn't you globalists know?

Globalist credibility is crumbling. Cancel my subscription.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#175 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
We supplied those WMDs. Plus there was no red line.


And set them off too!

Yes...we wanted this war and we want more too!
Brewha Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
Incomplete sentence, where your verb at?


Oh, sorry, where your verb at, Brewha?

Just saying, it's given that my grimmer and spelling are terrible. Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan

I be thankin' you genie. How's this;

”He be a Mexican pickle shoochin' fool"

Should I have capitalized "pickle"?
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#177 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
I be thankin' you genie. How's this;

”He be a Mexican pickle shoochin' fool"

Should I have capitalized "pickle"?



This made me shoot beer through my nose. It was very unpleasant. sorry for the interruption just thought I'd share. Continue
HockeyDad Offline
#178 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you made me listen to the Iranian war drum beat for two freakin years of postings and now you say it's on deck? and then N Korea? Maybe others? You never mentioned Syria. How did Syria get cutsies? why didn't you globalists know?

Globalist credibility is crumbling. Cancel my subscription.


Netanyahoo made you listen to the Iranian war drum beat. Did you just now notice a civil war in Syria?
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#179 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
It is important to note that the ordered outrage is not because people died in Syria. 100,000 have already died and we could care less. The outrage is HOW they died in the recent attack.

People need to be killed in appropriate ways. Curbside executions, buried in rubble, burned, sniped, cruise missiled, shocked & awed, MOABed, crushed by tanks, artillery bombarded, etc.


And............. Minefields!


Glad nobody is talking about all of that NSA spying on Americans any more. For a few weeks, that seemed to matter.
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#180 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Putin stops delivery of an arms order to Syria and says force is appropriate if there is solid proof and a U.N. resolution.?


Maybe there should be an investigation on whether a military coup happened in Egypt, to stop the arms shipments from us.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#181 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
And............. Minefields!


Glad nobody is talking about all of that NSA spying on Americans any more. For a few weeks, that seemed to matter.



And that little town in Libya...where there was a heavy weapons cache...POOF..gone...just like Miley Cyrus. Hits for a second and the compliant media scrubs it away like Shout in a washing machine on a stain!
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#182 Posted:
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dubleuhb
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racist bast*** what has his race got to do
with anything. you are an igorant person


jackconrad

my savior hasen't come yet.


rfenst

where is your head at, using a logical well
thought out answer to a problem we face.


HockeyDad

don't be afraid of a few canoes.



i read a little more but i know the upstairs
maid did itso time to wath tv.
HockeyDad Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Maybe there should be an investigation on whether a military coup happened in Egypt, to stop the arms shipments from us.



If a military coup had happened in Egypt, it would be against US law to continue arms shipments.
HockeyDad Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Rules of engagement prohibiting the use of mustard gas and the like arose out of WWI. Those who survived such attacks were horribly maimed for life. Most of the world agreed to ban them. This has brought this forward to the present.



No nation has ever attacked another to punish it for the use of chemical weapons.



After WW1 Syria was a French territory.

The 1993 Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling, and use of chemical weapons and their precursors. Its full name is the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction. The agreement is administered by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which is an independent organization based in the Hague, in the Netherlands.

Syria and Israel and not party to this treaty. Syria's chemical weapons were a counter to Israel's nuclear weapons.

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HockeyDad wrote:
Syria's chemical weapons were a counter to Israel's nuclear weapons.




So.....they figured Israel might shoot back, so lets just dump a little on our own folks since they don't have nukes?


Somebody call the League of Nations and tell them to come back and clean up their mess
bloody spaniard Offline
#186 Posted:
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So who'll take over for al-Assad after he's gone? Jenjizz neckbolts Cahn?
Lybia- no Khaddafi (Mad Max- check!)
Egypt- no Mubarak (military- check!)
Syria - no al-Assad (Al Queda- pending)
Saudi Arabia- no Bush b/f (new b/f to be determined)
horse
ZRX1200 Offline
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NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!!!!!!!!
DrafterX Offline
#188 Posted:
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Should we shout..
should we scream..
"What happened to the post war dream?"
Oh Maggie Maggie what have we done.???

Mellow
8trackdisco Offline
#189 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
If a military coup had happened in Egypt, it would be against US law to continue arms shipments.


Law?

Isn't that quaint. Aren't you the cutest little thing?!
HockeyDad Offline
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"To the leaders present, to each and every one, I make a heartfelt appeal for them to help find ways to overcome the conflicting positions and to lay aside the futile pursuit of a military solution. Rather, let there be a renewed commitment to seek, with courage and determination, a peaceful solution through dialogue and negotiation of the parties, unanimously supported by the international community. Moreover, all governments have the moral duty to do everything possible to ensure humanitarian assistance to those suffering because of the conflict, both within and beyond the country’s borders." ~ Pope Francis


Looks like Obama lost the backing of the Vatican.
DrafterX Offline
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They never really liked him..... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Law?

Isn't that quaint. Aren't you the cutest little thing?!



There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11?
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dstieger wrote:
So.....they figured Israel might shoot back, so lets just dump a little on our own folks since they don't have nukes?


Somebody call the League of Nations and tell them to come back and clean up their mess

I know, I couldn't follow the logic either.
8trackdisco Offline
#194 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet.


Sure, but there are only about 900 bullets for the lot of them.
HockeyDad Offline
#195 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I know, I couldn't follow the logic either.



Why were you trying to make some sort of logical leap? It was just a statement as to why Syria has massive stockpiles of chemical weapons.
DrafterX Offline
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BREAKING NEWS:
President Obama, speaking at a news conference in St. Petersburg, Russia, said he will address the nation on Tuesday about the Syria crisis.

Film at 11.... Mellow



can somebody front me a couple cheeseburgers till then..?? Huh
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Teleprompter or no teleprompter this is what the Israeli PM wants to know!

whip
DrafterX Offline
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I heard he had a chip implanted into his skull that tells him what to say now.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
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He doesn't know what to say...he acts stupidly and stuff.
HockeyDad Offline
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Sometimes Pat Buchanan tees off a pretty good one.....




"Wednesday, John Kerry told the Senate not to worry about the cost of an American war on Syria.

The Saudis and Gulf Arabs, cash-fat on the $110-a-barrel oil they sell U.S. consumers, will pick up the tab for the Tomahawk missiles.

Has it come to this – U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen as the mercenaries of sheikhs, sultans and emirs, Hessians of the New World Order, hired out to do the big-time killing for Saudi and Sunni royals?

Yesterday, too, came a stunning report in the Washington Post.

The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations has joined the Israeli lobby AIPAC in an all-out public campaign for a U.S. war on Syria

Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and Abe Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League have invoked the Holocaust, with Hier charging the U.S. and Britain failed to rescue the Jews in 1942.

Yet, if memory serves, in ’42 the Brits were battling Rommel in the desert and the Americans were still collecting their dead at Pearl Harbor and dying on Bataan and Corregidor.

The Republican Jewish Coalition, too, bankrolled by Sheldon Adelson, the Macau casino mogul whose solicitude for the suffering children of Syria is the stuff of legend, is also backing Obama’s war.

Adelson, who shelled out $70 million to bring down Barack, wants his pay-off – war on Syria. And he is getting it. Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor have saluted and enlisted. Sheldon, fattest of all fat cats, is buying himself a war.

Yet, is it really wise for Jewish organizations to put a Jewish stamp on a campaign to drag America into another war that a majority of their countrymen do not want to fight?

Moreover, this war has debacle written all over it. Should it come, a divided nation will be led by a diffident and dithering commander in chief who makes Adlai Stevenson look like Stonewall Jackson.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Martin Dempsey is having trouble even defining the mission. While Obama says it will be an in-and-out strike of hours, a “shot across the bow,” John McCain says the Senate resolution authorizes robust strikes, lethal aid to the rebels and a campaign to bring down Bashar Assad.

If the Republican Party backs this war, it will own this war.

And U.S. involvement will last not for days, but for the duration. And if our power is unleashed, our prestige and superpower status go on the line.

If the rebels then lose, we lose. And if the rebels win, who wins?

Is it the same jihadists who just shelled that Christian village and terrorized that convent of Christian nuns?

Is it the same rebels seen on the front page of Thursday’s New York Times about to execute, Einsatzgruppen-style, captive Syrian soldiers, forgetting only to have the victims of their war crime dig their own graves first?

Does the Republican Party really want to own a war that could end with al-Qaida in power or occupying sanctuaries in Syria?

Does the U.S. Jewish community really want to be responsible for starting a war that ends with 2 million Christian Syrians facing a fate not unlike that of Poland’s Jews?

About the debate on this war, there is an aspect of the absurd.

We are told we must punish Assad for killing Syrians with gas, but we do not want Assad’s regime to fall. Which raises a question: How many Syrians must we kill with missiles to teach Assad he cannot kill any more Syrians with gas? Artillery, fine. Just no gas.

How many Syrians must we kill to restore the credibility of our befuddled president who now says he did not draw that “red line” on chemical weapons; the world did when it outlawed such weapons.

Yet this statement may offer Obama a way out of a crisis of his own making without his starting a war to save face.

Iran and Russia agree chemical weapons were used. Vladimir Putin has said Russia will back military action against those who did it. The Russians have put out a 100-page document tracing the March use of chemical weapons to the rebels. The Turks reportedly intercepted small amounts of sarin going to the rebels. We claim solid proof that Assad’s regime authorized and used chemical weapons.

Why not tell the Russians to meet us in the Security Council where we will prove our “slam-dunk” case?

If we can, and do, we will have far greater support for collective sanctions or action than we do now. And if we prove our case and the U.N. does nothing, we will have learned something about the international community worth learning.

But the idea of launching missiles based on evidence we will not reveal about Syria’s use of chemical weapons, strikes that will advance the cause of the al-Qaida terrorists who killed 3,000 of us and are anxious to kill more, would be an act of such paralyzing stupidity one cannot believe that even this crowd would consciously commit it."
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