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bloody spaniard Offline
#51 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:29 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard the same person who put up that plaque trying to claim honest abe as member of the party of jack asses also had a hand in a certain kenyan birth certificate scandal... the dude was very forward thinking. (don't tell anyone but I think it was that rostankowski (sp?) guy...... or maybe daley


silly debate- Abe was a Republican jew. End of story.
Whatever happened to that Democrat Rostenkowski(sp?) guy anyway? Wasn't he serving time for stealing postage?
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#52 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:30 PM EST
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Oops, RIP Rostenkowski.
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#53 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:30 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
silly debate- Abe was a Republican jew. End of story.
Whatever happened to that Democrat Rostenkowski(sp?) guy anyway? Wasn't he serving time for stealing postage?


somethin like that. I heard abe was a transvestite that faked his death and came back as j edgar hoover. j edgar hoover did the same thing and came back as andy kaufman who may well have done the very same thing
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#54 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:32 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
somethin like that. I heard abe was a transvestite that faked his death and came back as j edgar hoover. j edgar hoover did the same thing and came back as andy kaufman who may well have done the very same thing

Hey, hey, hey... you take that back. Andy Kauffman's alive and living in the midwest where he regales at old folk's homes.
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#55 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:33 PM EST
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/14/showbiz/andy-kaufman-alive-or-not/index.html?hpt=hp_c3
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#56 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:34 PM EST
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I wouldn't surprised if kaufman was still around..... I hear he only has one ball.... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:35 PM EST
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I wouldn't surprised if kaufman was still around..... I hear he only has one ball.... Mellow


you and your obsession with one balled dicktaters
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#58 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:36 PM EST
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Speaking of 100 years out of context... If the plaque read' Abe Lincoln, A jolly gay fellow', would it still be there..?? Huh
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#59 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:36 PM EST
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I heard kaufman faked his death and came back as jouquine (sp) phoenix
teedubbya Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:37 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Speaking of 100 years out of context... If the plaque read' Abe Lincoln, A jolly gay fellow', would it still be there..?? Huh


maybe. but that would be a really stupid plaque a hunnert years ago and for the ages
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#61 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:38 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
maybe. but that would be a really stupid plaque a hunnert years ago and for the ages



damn.... I guess I gotta recarve your tombstone.... d'oh!
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#62 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:38 PM EST
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Drafter if this is such a big issue to you and your fair and balanced friends why not just go vandalize it?
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#63 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:39 PM EST
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Think
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:40 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
damn.... I guess I gotta recarve your tombstone.... d'oh!


yea maybe that tombtone swapping thing we came up with wasn't such a great idea. They refused to carve "DrafterX - Burried ass up upon his request for easy entry." I tried to do it myself but couldn't spell most of the words.
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#65 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:43 PM EST
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I guess if Abe was pissed about it he'd have had it struck by lightning or something by now... he's prolly got bigger issues also... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#66 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:44 PM EST
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I guess if Abe was pissed about it he'd have had it struck by lightning or something by now... he's prolly got bigger issues also... Mellow


yea, I hear he is hunting vampires and stuff
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#67 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:45 PM EST
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I heard that too...... he's a mean bassard.. Mellow
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#68 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:48 PM EST
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I heard that too...... he's a mean bassard.. Mellow


toughest Democrat I ever met.
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#69 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:49 PM EST
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you went to school in Illinois didn't you... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#70 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:53 PM EST
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you went to school in Illinois didn't you... Mellow


I heard the Nazis had a misleading sign made up.
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#71 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:57 PM EST
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the North Dakota ones..?? Huh
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#72 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 2:59 PM EST
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the North Dakota ones..?? Huh



No they are nice. They have even invited a couple folks in here up to live with them.
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#73 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:05 PM EST
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CROS..?? Huh
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#74 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:07 PM EST
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CROS..?? Huh


I don't think they would like him. Besides didn't he just get kicked off a plane in Philly?
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#75 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:10 PM EST
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I didn't hear about that.... poor CROS.. Sad
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#76 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:13 PM EST
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/blind-man-kicked-off-us-111508588.html
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#77 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:15 PM EST
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CROS is blind..??? OhMyGod I thought he was just deaf... d'oh!
teedubbya Offline
#78 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:18 PM EST
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CROS is blind..??? OhMyGod I thought he was just deaf... d'oh!


yea. he doesn't even realize he is really white.
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#79 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 3:26 PM EST
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did he catch that skin disease Michael had..?? Huh
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#80 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 7:47 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
a second plaque isn't really a good idea.. a good idea would be to correct the one with the wrong information... twist it however you want to but it's intentionaly deceptive and they know it... Not talking


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uhh.. that plaque says Democrat.... somebody looking at the plaque isn't gonna wonder which meaning of Democrat was intended..... it's not an issue if it fits your agenda I guess... (and I don't mean yours specifically Buckwheat)..


???
Intentionally deceptive? Really? Who and for what reason?
And if you want to talk about intentionally deceptive, why did you capitalize "democrat"? The plaque is written in all uppercase font, to capitalize democrat (and the news stations did this as well) is to add your own layer of poor understanding to it.

In fact, a smart person would have looked into the political climate in Chicago Il during the time the plaque was installed... (I'm sure you considered doing that, but it seemed like so much more work than just copy-pasting and adding "film at 11"). Both the Governor of Il, and the Mayor of Chicago were Republicans in 1909... the Northeastern Illinois University is a public school...

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#81 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 7:59 PM EST
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when you read democrat after someone's name what do you think..?? Mellow
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#82 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:14 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
when you read democrat after someone's name what do you think..?? Mellow


Funny you should ask. When I was a kid I always thought that the Republican Party had a serious branding issue, since the Democratic Party had, literally "democrat" in the name. Before I had been inundated with this political hissy-fit BS we see now, my first reaction was that a democrat was a supporter of the democratic philosophy.

Funny enough, it's bull-sh#t like this article that destroys people's ability to understand the nuances in life.

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#83 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:18 PM EST
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you failed to answer the question.. people who don't know much about Lincoln, other than he freed the slaves, will think he was a Democrat.... I know you understand this but i do enjoy the banter... ThumpUp
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#84 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:18 PM EST
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If I understand this correctly the word Democrat can no longer be used in any way shape or form except for the donkey party
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#85 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:20 PM EST
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And any past references to it that were used correctly should be abolished because the Republicans don't like it anymore
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#86 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:22 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
you failed to answer the question.. people who don't know much about Lincoln, other than he freed the slaves, will think he was a Democrat.... I know you understand this but i do enjoy the banter... ThumpUp


So... we have to dumb down our monuments, created 100 years ago, to ensure they aren't misinterpreted by people who are too stupid to understand history, on the off-chance that it will cause the republican party to lose some credit for actions taken 150 years ago....

am I getting this clearly?
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#87 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:25 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So... we have to dumb down our monuments, created 100 years ago, to ensure they aren't misinterpreted by people who are too stupid to understand history, on the off-chance that it will cause the republican party to lose some credit for actions taken 150 years ago....

am I getting this clearly?



answer the question..... but no, i don't think the monument should be vandalized as TW suggested... but a second plaque might be in order..... Mellow
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#88 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:27 PM EST
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I think the Washington Monument should be torn down and rebuilt to be 6 inches just to be more accurate
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#89 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:27 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If I understand this correctly the word Democrat can no longer be used in any way shape or form except for the donkey party



'believed in democracy' would be a better phrase don't you think..?? the wrod may have ment something different years ago but it clearly has a new meaning... I refer back to 'gay'... Mellow
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#90 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:28 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think the Washington Monument should be torn down and rebuilt to be 6 inches just to be more accurate


Laugh

and made of wood..?? Laugh
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#91 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:29 PM EST
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So Marvin Gaye has to change his name posthumously?
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#92 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:32 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
answer the question..... but no, i don't think the monument should be vandalized as TW suggested... but a second plaque might be in order..... Mellow


To answer the question, it depends on the politician. If it's someone I'd never heard of, I'd assume it meant Democratic party. If it's someone I knew was in the Republican, I'd assume it meant "advocate of democracy". If it was someone I'd heard of, but wasn't sure what party he/she was in, I'd look it up. We live in an age where you can get that information on a funny device in your pocket within 5 seconds.

... yeah, a second plaque explaining to people that they may be too stupid to know it, but "democrat" has two meanings, one of which is "advocate of democracy", and that this is the meaning applied to lincoln in plaque #1.... that sure isn't going to vandalize it at all.

Admit it drafter, this entire bit of stupidity was started by an individual who was too stupid to realize there were two meanings of "democrat" who decided to have a hissy fit. A bunch of other people without the level of vocabulary required to function in society heard about this and elevated it to "NATIONAL NEWS!!!!"... about 100 years too late. While I'm sure there are people who vote democrat who also are too stupid to realize that democrat has two meanings, this is NOT sufficient reason to start a hissy fit.
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#93 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:33 PM EST
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By the way drafter on that gay plaque find it for me and I'll join your outrage and demand it be changed
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#94 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:34 PM EST
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If someone says you're cute as the dickens does it really mean Charles Dickens or does it mean something else
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#95 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:34 PM EST
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Think all words with dual meaning should be outlawed

Now I'm just angry
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#96 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:34 PM EST
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To bring this into context...

What about literature?

I'm sure there are a number of famous political letters and books, required reading in many schools, which use the word "democrat", or "gay" or even "f$g" with definitions outside of the current mainstream usage. Do we need to change all of them?
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#97 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:36 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
To answer the question, it depends on the politician. If it's someone I'd never heard of, I'd assume it meant Democratic party.




Thank you.. that was my only point.... Mellow
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#98 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:36 PM EST
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I'm sure toqueville's book is gonna have to be edited all over the place...
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#99 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:39 PM EST
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rant on... point proven....Not talking
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#100 Posted: Thu, Nov 14 2013, 8:40 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
By the way drafter on that gay plaque find it for me and I'll join your outrage and demand it be changed


what about that Christmas carol..?? Huh
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