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8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:22 AM EST
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You've already known your kids are better than everyone. Now you've got the law your side!

Attorneys for Texas teen Ethan Couch claimed that his "affluenza" meant he was blameless for driving drunk and causing a crash that left four people dead in June.

Simply put, Couch, 16, claims that his condition stemmed from having wealthy, privileged parents who never set limits for him.

Judge Jean Boyd sentenced him Tuesday to 10 years of probation but no jail time, saying she would work to find him a long-term treatment facility.

For the full story...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/health/affluenza-youth/index.html
Plowboy221 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:29 AM EST
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Heard about this on the radio Friday, really ticked me off. I guess next time he's drunk and kills somebody he'll go to jail. So can poor kids use an excuse that there so poor that they don't know right from wrong? Oh wait they can't afford lawyers…
Gene363 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:30 AM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
You've already known your kids are better than everyone. Now you've got the law your side!

Attorneys for Texas teen Ethan Couch claimed that his "affluenza" meant he was blameless for driving drunk and causing a crash that left four people dead in June.

Simply put, Couch, 16, claims that his condition stemmed from having wealthy, privileged parents who never set limits for him.

Judge Jean Boyd sentenced him Tuesday to 10 years of probation but no jail time, saying she would work to find him a long-term treatment facility.

For the full story...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/12/health/affluenza-youth/index.html


Fine, send the F'ing parents to jail.

How can the judge allow this junk science as evidence?

BTW, it's not just the rich, it also applies to parents who cannot say no. Talk about a a license for murder and mayhem. Frying pan Frying pan Frying pan
8trackdisco Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:33 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:

Fine, send the F'ing parents to jail.

How can the judge allow this junk science as evidence?

BTW, it's not just the rich, it also applies to parents who cannot say no.


The kid is going to a $400,000+ a year treatment center. It is fair to say you have to be rich to afford that as a parent. That from NBC Nightly News.
sd72 Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:37 AM EST
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The parents are also taking his xbox, and truck away. Just on the news here.
mikey1597 Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:45 AM EST
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You guys arnt seeing the big picture. If he serves jail time he cant be a congressman can he?



















Sarcasm
8trackdisco Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:58 AM EST
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Nice incentive for kids in school though.

Get good grades, get a great job with lots of money, and you can kill people in a lower social strata without doing time. Or at least your kids can.

How much do you think mommy and daddy pitched in to the judge's reelection campaign?
shaun341 Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 9:59 AM EST
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wow what a great decision. Blame the parents for being enablers and then enable him to kill people and get away with it. Way to make a stand and prove a point. there should be a judge vacancy in the near future imo. Agree with charge the parents then if that is going to be the defenses case, someone needs to go to jail for this.
cacman Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 10:03 AM EST
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Nice of the judge to reinforce the fact the kid is spoiled, not held accountable for his own actions, and having money is an excuse for getting away with murder.

The American justice system at it's finest. Money always does the talking. If he was a poor black kid he'd be fried in the media and the Prez would have to come to his rescue. Just another rich white boy getting special treatment. Nothing new here.
MACS Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 10:36 AM EST
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If this pisses you off, imagine how enraged it could make you if you hear criminals bragging about how they got a light sentence.

Or you read their rap sheet and see a charge was dropped for "furtherance of justice".

There IS no justice in this world.
m j toal Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 11:04 AM EST
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Wtf is Rich Peeps?

I know a Michael Peeps but he was an only child. His dad's name was John III.
8trackdisco Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 11:56 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
If this pisses you off, imagine how enraged it could make you if you hear criminals bragging about how they got a light sentence.

Or you read their rap sheet and see a charge was dropped for "furtherance of justice".

There IS no justice in this world.


We could really learn something from the North Korean justice system.
8trackdisco Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 11:57 AM EST
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Wtf does "furtherance of justice" mean?
MACS Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:18 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Wtf does "furtherance of justice" mean?


I have no idea, but I think it means the judge dropped the charge because he or she either feels it is the right thing to do to see justice served, or it was part of a plea agreement. I duuno for sure.
Mr. Jones Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:28 PM EST
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^^^ MACS^^^^
If your still doing that prisoner transfer job....I'll bet you've heard it all.....

Have/did any of prisoners go after you?
Like spit or verbal abuse you?
z6joker9 Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:30 PM EST
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If it's any consolation, it is a guilty verdict, which makes the civil suits pretty open and shut. Those are probably going to bankrupt the family.
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:32 PM EST
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Still work corrections, not working transportation any more. Had a few scuffles, nothing serious, though.
TMCTLT Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:36 PM EST
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z6joker9 wrote:
If it's any consolation, it is a guilty verdict, which makes the civil suits pretty open and shut. Those are probably going to bankrupt the family.



And what a shame that would be.....
TMCTLT Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:37 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Nice of the judge to reinforce the fact the kid is spoiled, not held accountable for his own actions, and having money is an excuse for getting away with murder.

The American justice system at it's finest. Money always does the talking. If he was a poor black kid he'd be fried in the media and the Prez would have to come to his rescue. Just another rich white boy getting special treatment. Nothing new here.




Carl, one can only assume that the good Judge deals with his offspring the same lame way......
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 1:46 PM EST
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Only in todays Amerika.
bloody spaniard Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 2:02 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Only in todays Amerika.

Exactly. The poor, nonwhite, homosexuals, handicapped, illegals, elderly, young, women and now the rich are all victims of society.
That leaves 15 middle aged white guys in Poughkeepsie who can be held accountable for everything.
MACS Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 2:05 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Exactly. The poor, nonwhite, homosexuals, handicapped, illegals, elderly, young, women and now the rich are all victims of society.
That leaves 15 middle aged white guys in Poughkeepsie who can be held accountable for everything.


Whew... glad I don't live in Poughkeepsie! Frying pan
snowwolf777 Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 3:27 PM EST
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Exactly. The poor, nonwhite, homosexuals, handicapped, illegals, elderly, young, women and now the rich are all victims of society.
That leaves 15 middle aged white guys in Poughkeepsie who can be held accountable for everything.


I pretty much live on Xanax and booze due to all my guilt.

Naw, I'm just kidding. I live on Xanax and booze because I like it.
wheelrite Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 3:28 PM EST
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Whitey sux !
sd72 Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 3:49 PM EST
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I like snowwolfs style.
HockeyDad Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 3:55 PM EST
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At Least His Parents Got Him a Good Lawyer Unlike All You Lousy Parents Would Have Done Outrage.
TMCTLT Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 4:04 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
At Least His Parents Got Him a Good Lawyer Unlike All You Lousy Parents Would Have Done Outrage.




This is Amerika....where you get legal representation based on what you can afford. Same as buying a TV set whip
wvwa34 Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 4:52 PM EST
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Extremely Disturbing!!!
Burner02 Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 5:16 PM EST
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Judge should be removed from the bench.

Forever!
HockeyDad Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 5:18 PM EST
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Buncha Republicans Sounding Like Democrats Outrage
bloody spaniard Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 5:57 PM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
I pretty much live on Xanax and booze due to all my guilt.
Naw, I'm just kidding. I live on Xanax and booze because I like it.

Think
Not sure that I don't like the sound of that!Drool
Burner02 Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 6:06 PM EST
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snowwolf777 wrote:
I pretty much live on Xanax and booze due to all my guilt.

Naw, I'm just kidding. I live on Xanax and booze because I like it.




Sounds like a win-win!
8trackdisco Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 6:58 PM EST
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z6joker9 wrote:
If it's any consolation, it is a guilty verdict, which makes the civil suits pretty open and shut. Those are probably going to bankrupt the family.


If one of the four dead is your wife or child, how does the consolation prize feel?
wheelrite Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:04 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
If one of the four dead is your wife or child, how does the consolation prize feel?


ed Zachary,,,

This is a local story here and it is a travesty,,,
8trackdisco Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:06 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Buncha Republicans Sounding Like Democrats Outrage


If Obama could have more effectively redistributed wealth, this snot-nosed kid's parents wouldn't have been able to buy the judge.
wheelrite Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:09 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
If Obama could have more effectively redistributed wealth, this snot-nosed kid's parents wouldn't have been able to buy the judge.


The Judge is a Broad who is not running for re-election,,,

The really odd thing is she is a Republican,,,


wheel,
stogiemonger Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:10 PM EST
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Texas is about the last place I'd expect something like this kind of injustice.

Affluenza? Really?
8trackdisco Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:14 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
The Judge is a Broad who is not running for re-election,,,

The really odd thing is she is a Republican.


wheel,


Her not being up for reelection surprises me.

That she is a Republican doesn't. Probably members of the same country club.
mikey1597 Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:18 PM EST
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They are ALL members of the same country club!
z6joker9 Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Dec 15 2013, 7:54 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
If one of the four dead is your wife or child, how does the consolation prize feel?


I wasn't saying that what happened was right, just that the family's punishment isn't done and might be worse than jail time, at least to them. The consolation prize would feel like millions of dollars, which won't bring them back, but neither will a few years of jail time. It gets really complicated, as some people want justice rather than restitution, others want to see rehabilitation rather than punishment... I definitely can't imagine that a poor inner city youth who's parents never taught him right from wrong would get to use this same defense successfully.

But yes, it is a ridiculous situation and if it I was a family member of the wronged in this case, I would be livid.
HockeyDad Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 9:56 AM EST
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I'm sure most posters here would have preferred their child to get 20 years in prison instead of 10 years probation. In fact, they probably would have testified against their child at the sentencing hearing.
TMCTLT Offline
#42 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:04 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I'm sure most posters here would have preferred their child to get 20 years in prison instead of 10 years probation. In fact, they probably would have testified against their child at the sentencing hearing.



And what's your point here HD, this IS how every subject no matter the content gets DISTORTED. Somehow being able to somehow lessen the gravity of any situation because of " personal attachment " while looking the other way when it comes to ACCOUNTABILITY.

Please reference #17....... Just because it's the way things are... Doesn't make it Right. The course that our Right to legal counsel / representation is a SHAM. I don't believe our Founding Fathers meant it to be this way. How much one's net worth is IS NOT how representation is to work. Once again the reason why there will ALWAYS be a great separation between the wealthy and the middle class / poor, and moreover lending some understanding to the general attitude toward the very wealthy. Completely different set of rules and Laws to live byBrick wall
HockeyDad Offline
#43 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:23 AM EST
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reference # 17: "Still work corrections, not working transportation any more. Had a few scuffles, nothing serious, though."
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#44 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:29 AM EST
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Think
HockeyDad Offline
#45 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:42 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
And what's your point here HD, this IS how every subject no matter the content gets DISTORTED.


You can't figure out my point???

I'm saying every one of you are full of crap. You're all having your little pity party comparing how many knots in the rope you would tie to hang that kid but in reality if it were your kid, you would spend every penny on getting him the best defense possible and the lightest sentence possible. You're all enablers of affluenza.




TMCTLT wrote:

Please reference #17....... Just because it's the way things are... Doesn't make it Right. The course that our Right to legal counsel / representation is a SHAM. I don't believe our Founding Fathers meant it to be this way. How much one's net worth is IS NOT how representation is to work. Once again the reason why there will ALWAYS be a great separation between the wealthy and the middle class / poor, and moreover lending some understanding to the general attitude toward the very wealthy. Completely different set of rules and Laws to live byBrick wall



The Founding Fathers were rich white dudes. A bunch of them owned slaves. I'm not sure they're turning over in their graves.

There will always be great separation between the wealthy, middle class, and poor because....wait for it.....they're wealthy, middle class, and poor! I tried to sell you people torches & pitchfork sets before. Not falling for it again.
TMCTLT Offline
#46 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:51 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
You can't figure out my point???

I'm saying everyone one of you are full of crap. You're all having your little pity party comparing how many knots in the rope you would tie to hang that kid but in reality if it were your kid, you would spend every penny on getting him the best defense possible and the lightest sentence possible. You're all enablers of affluenza.







The Founding Fathers were rich white dudes. A bunch of them owned slaves. I'm not sure they're turning over in their graves.

There will always be great separation between the wealthy, middle class, and poor because....wait for it.....they're wealthy, middle class, and poor! I tried to sell you people torches & pitchfork sets before. Not falling for it again.



No sir YOU are full of crap, I know many people with the " conviction " to seek justice no matter who's involved!! That's what's REALLY lacking today is CONVICTION......Our LAWS are there for everyone.....regardless of who you THINK you areShame on you
Buckwheat Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:55 AM EST
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I'm confused why anyone is surprised by this case. The rich have always had their way with the system. They built and run the system so why is anyone surprised when the system works for the rich? fog
HockeyDad Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:56 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
No sir YOU are full of crap, I know many people with the " conviction " to seek justice no matter who's involved!! That's what's REALLY lacking today is CONVICTION......Our LAWS are there for everyone.....regardless of who you THINK you areShame on you



So you know many people with the conviction to seek justice no matter who's involved......

But you're not saying you're one of those that would hang his own son.
TMCTLT Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:57 AM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
I'm confused why anyone is surprised by this case. The rich have always had their way with the system. They built and run the system so why is anyone surprised when the system works for the rich? fog



I'm not sure we're surprised.....disgusted perhaps, madder than Hell maybe, but definitely NOT surprised
TMCTLT Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, Dec 16 2013, 10:59 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
So you know many people with the conviction to seek justice no matter who's involved......

But you're not saying you're one of those that would hang his own son.



Actually I do have a " personal story " but will NOT share in an open forum.....you really DON'T know every situation HD
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