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ZRX1200 Offline
#101 Posted: Sun, Jul 13 2014, 9:04 PM EST
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Yeah he's still in charge, that damn idiot savant!
Puffnstuff79 Offline
#102 Posted: Sun, Jul 13 2014, 9:42 PM EST
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Anyone seen the fence Mexico put up between them and Guatemala? They say they don't want Guatemala draining their resources.
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#103 Posted: Sun, Jul 13 2014, 9:46 PM EST
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Puffnstuff79 wrote:
Anyone seen the fence Mexico put up between them and Guatemala? They say they don't want Guatemala draining their resources.



It's not working
TMCTLT Offline
#104 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 6:47 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
I would like to know why they are dispersing them ALL across the US, everyone knows once released and awaiting trial......they'll disappear into the masses.

For those living in Michigan, they're getting ready to dump a bunch on you in the Vassar area.



Brewha wrote:
Of course this immigration surge is rooted in a law to curb child trafficking - brought into law by George W. Bush.

See Williams Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization act of 2008.




Yes, it's all Bush's fault . . . . .



Six years after he's gone from office and this administrations " water boyz " are still blaming the former.....priceless!!
Your man and party of choice routinely crap on many laws he / they don't agree with, why NOT this one?
Child trafficking MY ASS....someone paid to have these kids bused / flown to Mexicos northern border so that they may become OUR problem. Dump them @ 1600 Pennsyvania Avenue!!! Brick wall
victor809 Offline
#105 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 10:51 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
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Six years after he's gone from office and this administrations " water boyz " are still blaming the former.....priceless!!
Your man and party of choice routinely crap on many laws he / they don't agree with, why NOT this one?
Child trafficking MY ASS....someone paid to have these kids bused / flown to Mexicos northern border so that they may become OUR problem. Dump them @ 1600 Pennsyvania Avenue!!! Brick wall


Ok...
First, I can just imagine the headlines if Obama had suggested we make the child sex-trafficking laws less strict. FOX would have been on that in a second claiming Obama wants to sell our children to muslims or something, and you and Drafter would be posting the articles here.

This is a Bush era law. It isn't Bush's fault, no one would have expected child trafficking laws would have caused this, but it certainly is a law passed prior to Obama's administration. How do you suggest exactly that obama fix this?

And YES, someone paid to have this kids bused to Mexico's northern border. Their parents. Their parents are shipping them up because they think the kids will be taken in to the US if they make it across the border. Our current laws (which CONGRESS has to fix, because it's a LAW) say we have to put them somewhere and give them a court date. They're being shipped everywhere because there isn't one single location big enough to house them and our court system takes a long time (you know, that whole law thing we've got going on).

Your partisan whining isn't solving this issue.
tailgater Offline
#106 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:05 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ok...
First, I can just imagine the headlines if Obama had suggested we make the child sex-trafficking laws less strict. FOX would have been on that in a second claiming Obama wants to sell our children to muslims or something, and you and Drafter would be posting the articles here.

This is a Bush era law. It isn't Bush's fault, no one would have expected child trafficking laws would have caused this, but it certainly is a law passed prior to Obama's administration. How do you suggest exactly that obama fix this?

And YES, someone paid to have this kids bused to Mexico's northern border. Their parents. Their parents are shipping them up because they think the kids will be taken in to the US if they make it across the border. Our current laws (which CONGRESS has to fix, because it's a LAW) say we have to put them somewhere and give them a court date. They're being shipped everywhere because there isn't one single location big enough to house them and our court system takes a long time (you know, that whole law thing we've got going on).

Your partisan whining isn't solving this issue.


So a group of Mexican parents organized a grass roots plan to bus tens of thousands of kids to the US border?

That's your argument?
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#107 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Ok...
They're being shipped everywhere because there isn't one single location big enough to house them and our court system takes a long time (you know, that whole law thing we've got going on).



Why is the government holding the FEMA re-education camps in reserve instead of using those locations?
tailgater Offline
#108 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:13 PM EST
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From a previous post:

Accept the children and put them on the fast track to become US Citizens.

Then shoot the parents.
TMCTLT Offline
#109 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:16 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So a group of Latin American parents organized a grass roots plan to bus tens of thousands of kids to the US border?

That's your argument?





Fixed that part so he ( Victor ) couldn't just cite your over site and move on....accordingly if they were Mexican Nationals....we could simply deport them. And if your looking for anything from Victor but full on Obama backing and Bush era blaming your wasting your time. This Administration has NO plans on stopping the flow of Illegal Law Breakers entering our country. And NOT surprisingly he ( Victor ) doesn't seem to show the same hatred towards " children " from other countries as he does His Own......
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#110 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:47 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Fixed that part so he ( Victor ) couldn't just cite your over site and move on....accordingly if they were Mexican Nationals....we could simply deport them. And if your looking for anything from Victor but full on Obama backing and Bush era blaming your wasting your time. This Administration has NO plans on stopping the flow of Illegal Law Breakers entering our country. And NOT surprisingly he ( Victor ) doesn't seem to show the same hatred towards " children " from other countries as he does His Own......


You're delusional.

1 - I hate all children. South american, Mexican, Yours. All of them. That's why I live in the city. They can bus these children to your suburb for all I care.

2 - Were you bright enough to see the part where I specifically said it wasn't Bush's fault? No? Because you're still claiming I'm blaming Bush (or the bush era).

3 - I asked you what you wanted Obama to actually do about it, and you didn't answer. I'm guessing that's because you don't actually have an answer which includes anything actionable for the president.
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#111 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:49 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So a group of Mexican parents organized a grass roots plan to bus tens of thousands of kids to the US border?

That's your argument?



As TCBY pointed out, they're central/south american. But something like that is happening. They're paying huge amounts of money to guides to get the kids across the border. Once across, our government is stuck with them until we provide them with a court hearing. I think we're the ones putting them in buses... I suppose we could give them all private towncars... but that seems a little excessive.
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#112 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:57 PM EST
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I wish Voctor would stopping blaming GW Bush.
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#113 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 12:58 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I wish Voctor would stopping blaming GW Bush.


I wish HD wouldn't have started that "Bus children from Central America to USA" Kickstarter... that's really where the problem started.
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#114 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 1:05 PM EST
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[quote=victor809]As TCBY pointed out, they're central/south american. But something like that is happening. They're paying huge amounts of money to guides to get the kids across the border. Once across, our government is stuck with them until we provide them with a court hearing. I think we're the ones putting them in buses... I suppose we could give them all private towncars... but that seems a little excessive. [/



I used your F'n name when referencing you but since you prefer to keep on with your adolescent behavior I'll play by YOUR rules Puss Pants Pounder.....you live in the city because you like to be " taken care of " and because folks in the country wouldn't tolerate your miserable ass.
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#115 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 1:15 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I wish HD wouldn't have started that "Bus children from Central America to USA" Kickstarter... that's really where the problem started.



I still had surplus torches and pitchforks left over from my "Ocupooper" business venture. (Texans are gonna snatch them up!)
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#116 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 1:23 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:



I used your F'n name when referencing you but since you prefer to keep on with your adolescent behavior I'll play by YOUR rules Puss Pants Pounder.....you live in the city because you like to be " taken care of " and because folks in the country wouldn't tolerate your miserable ass.


TCBY... while I don't particularly care what you call me, don't claim you're taking the high road here. I believe you generally like to try to feminize my name (see post 74 of this very thread). If you want to stop "adolescent behavior" tell me, I'll gladly stop referring to you as TCBY for exactly as long as you can manage to act mature.

I'm not sure why you think I'm "taken care of" in the city. I give people money, in exchange for goods and services. Is that what you're talking about? Do you have a problem with the free exchange on a marketplace? Don't tell me you're a commie...

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#117 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 3:25 PM EST
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I'm eating cameron tostadas from a roach coach sitting next to an authentic mexican with a straw hat and cowboy boots with soles he nailed himself!!
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#118 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 4:38 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
As TCBY pointed out, they're central/south american. But something like that is happening. They're paying huge amounts of money to guides to get the kids across the border. Once across, our government is stuck with them until we provide them with a court hearing. I think we're the ones putting them in buses... I suppose we could give them all private towncars... but that seems a little excessive.


So who's paying to bus the little cherubs to our border?
And who is organizing it without our knowledge?
It's not like these villages have algore's internet and web forums on how to adopt a gringo mama.

Anyone who thinks this invasion was a surprise to our government doesn't quite get it.
Where obama failed was in their refusal to be proactive prior to touchdown. This reactive posturing is helping nobody.
tailgater Offline
#119 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 4:39 PM EST
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Vic,
If you don't want your name feminized, then get a cooler one.

Like tailgater.

Wait.
Uh, nevermind.
ZRX1200 Offline
#120 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 5:08 PM EST
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He could try El Tailgatér809


Mellow
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#121 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 5:24 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So who's paying to bus the little cherubs to our border?
And who is organizing it without our knowledge?
It's not like these villages have algore's internet and web forums on how to adopt a gringo mama.

Anyone who thinks this invasion was a surprise to our government doesn't quite get it.
Where obama failed was in their refusal to be proactive prior to touchdown. This reactive posturing is helping nobody.



Tail, as I said, I don't believe they are in buses until AFTER they cross the border. See my quote?
thatsexyvictorguy wrote:

I think we're the ones putting them in buses... I suppose we could give them all private towncars... but that seems a little excessive.
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#122 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 6:03 PM EST
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ThatsexyVictorguy809 wrote:
Tail, I like chalupas


How about 5 minute herfs?
tailgater Offline
#123 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 8:09 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tail, as I said, I don't believe they are in buses until AFTER they cross the border. See my quote?


You post so often you're losing track here.
From post 105:

"...And YES, someone paid to have this kids bused to Mexico's northern border. Their parents. Their parents are shipping them up because they think the kids will be taken in to the US if they make it across the border. ..."


Slow down. Take a breath.
And stop posting just to take an opposite position.

Your contradictions make TW's fence sitting look decisive.
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#124 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 8:15 PM EST
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I was colloquially using "bused" ... As in I'm sure they didn't fly from Guatemala. Throw a dozen in the back of a moving truck, sneak them across the border and send them on their way.

The busses you're seeing in the news I'm guessing are US govt vehicles. Those did not transport them into the country.

Keep up tail. :)
DrafterX Offline
#125 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 8:17 PM EST
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they were put on trains at the southern border... Mellow
wheelrite Offline
#126 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 8:31 PM EST
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what's all the fuss...

Pedro will have a heart attack soon and we need replacement lawn people here,,,

besides,
we need a Honduran Taco stand around here,,,


wheel,,
tailgater Offline
#127 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 8:54 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I was colloquially using "bused" ... As in I'm sure they didn't fly from Guatemala. Throw a dozen in the back of a moving truck, sneak them across the border and send them on their way.

The busses you're seeing in the news I'm guessing are US govt vehicles. Those did not transport them into the country.

Keep up tail. :)


You're lost in the minutia.
I don't care about the bus on this side of the border.

These kids didn't collectively show up, by the 10's of thousands, at the same time, in the back of random trucks.
They WERE bused in. In an organized effort.

THAT should be the discussion point.
THAT should be the focus of our angst.

Why didn't our president and his administration see this coming?
Or, more realistically, why didn't they do something when the DID see it coming?

Can't blame Bush for that.
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#128 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 8:57 PM EST
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votes.... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#129 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 9:19 PM EST
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Tail... It's been over months.
I don't have the numbers in front of me but the thought I remembered 57k or something this year.
That's what... 9k a month? 300 a day? Over what 1-2k miles of border?

Standard organized coyotes do like 12 a trip? Doesn't sound like something which is nefariously organized (beyond just a standard refugee wave)
tailgater Offline
#130 Posted: Mon, Jul 14 2014, 10:52 PM EST
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This problem didn't manifest itself a dozen at a time over thousands of miles, Vic.
This is an organized effort, and we should have seen it coming.
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#131 Posted: Tue, Jul 15 2014, 3:48 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
This problem didn't manifest itself a dozen at a time over thousands of miles, Vic.
This is an organized effort, and we should have seen it coming.



http://www.npr.org/2014/07/09/329848538/whats-causing-the-latest-immigration-crisis-a-brief-explainer

Here Tail... this article answers a lot of the questions.

First, this isn't something just popping up. The number of refugees has been increasing over the years... they're coming from multiple countries, and going to different destinations in the US. It isn't some organized effort...

Second, and this is the most important question, what do you want obama to do? He's asking for money with both border security and refugee "handling" money earmarked. Representatives are trying to debunk the myth that the kids will get to stay. Is there anything else he can do?
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#132 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 3:21 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
http://www.npr.org/2014/07/09/329848538/whats-causing-the-latest-immigration-crisis-a-brief-explainer

Here Tail... this article answers a lot of the questions.

First, this isn't something just popping up. The number of refugees has been increasing over the years... they're coming from multiple countries, and going to different destinations in the US. It isn't some organized effort...

Second, and this is the most important question, what do you want obama to do? He's asking for money with both border security and refugee "handling" money earmarked. Representatives are trying to debunk the myth that the kids will get to stay. Is there anything else he can do?



Perhaps he should have spent some of the estimated 7 Trillion he's spent ON THIS problem....since as you pointed put it's been going on for some years. Whistle
tailgater Offline
#133 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 3:38 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
http://www.npr.org/2014/07/09/329848538/whats-causing-the-latest-immigration-crisis-a-brief-explainer

Here Tail... this article answers a lot of the questions.

First, this isn't something just popping up. The number of refugees has been increasing over the years... they're coming from multiple countries, and going to different destinations in the US. It isn't some organized effort...

Second, and this is the most important question, what do you want obama to do? He's asking for money with both border security and refugee "handling" money earmarked. Representatives are trying to debunk the myth that the kids will get to stay. Is there anything else he can do?


Did you read the article you linked, or just look at the pictures?
Second paragraph:

"Since October, more than 52,000 children — most from Central America and many of them unaccompanied by adults — have been taken into custody. That's nearly double last year's total and 10 times the number from 2009."

When a problem escalates almost exponentially, it is important to remain (or become) proactive.
Sitting back and pointing fingers and asking for more money and threatening executive orders and accusing others of not doing enough while the head honcho himself has let this grow by a FACTOR OF 10 under his watch can not be considered the best approach.


Accept the children.
Shoot the parents.
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#134 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 3:57 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Did you read the article you linked, or just look at the pictures?
Second paragraph:

"Since October, more than 52,000 children — most from Central America and many of them unaccompanied by adults — have been taken into custody. That's nearly double last year's total and 10 times the number from 2009."

When a problem escalates almost exponentially, it is important to remain (or become) proactive.
Sitting back and pointing fingers and asking for more money and threatening executive orders and accusing others of not doing enough while the head honcho himself has let this grow by a FACTOR OF 10 under his watch can not be considered the best approach.


Accept the children.
Shoot the parents.



That's why I said "it's been increasing over the years".
As in, this year is more than last year. That year was probably more than the year before it.
If we're looking at a 10x increase from 2009, and a doubling from 2013 to 2014, there's probably two more doublings between 2009-2013. Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I wasn't talking about increasing over large amounts of time. Just that it's more than just what everyone's talking about this year.

OK Tail. I'll ask you the same question which TCBY ignored. What would you like Obama to do which he has not already done?

I'm open to suggestions... honestly. I'd be open to shooting children at the border, or gas chambers or whatever. But no one's suggested that yet, and we'd have to get congress to pass a law. I mean, I guess Obama could vacation to texas or something and stand guard at the border himself. But other than that, he has to ask for money.
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#135 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 3:59 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:

Accept the children.
Shoot the parents.


While I'm ok with this solution we don't have the parents to shoot... they're in honduras or venezuela or wherever. Its gonna take a lot more than 350MM to hunt down all of them and shoot them.
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#136 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 9:09 PM EST
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http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/07/murrieta-mutiny-border-patrol-will-obey-unlawful-orders-homeland-security-white-house/
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#137 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 9:40 PM EST
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From the same source

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http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/07/hamas-caught-using-photo-hollywood-horror-film-libel-israel/
tailgater Offline
#140 Posted: Wed, Jul 16 2014, 10:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
That's why I said "it's been increasing over the years".
As in, this year is more than last year. That year was probably more than the year before it.
If we're looking at a 10x increase from 2009, and a doubling from 2013 to 2014, there's probably two more doublings between 2009-2013. Perhaps I wasn't clear, but I wasn't talking about increasing over large amounts of time. Just that it's more than just what everyone's talking about this year.

OK Tail. I'll ask you the same question which TCBY ignored. What would you like Obama to do which he has not already done?

I'm open to suggestions... honestly. I'd be open to shooting children at the border, or gas chambers or whatever. But no one's suggested that yet, and we'd have to get congress to pass a law. I mean, I guess Obama could vacation to texas or something and stand guard at the border himself. But other than that, he has to ask for money.


When the problem grows exponentially, how did it "suddenly" become a problem?
Obama should have been dealing with this when it was a "small" issue. Now it's catastrophic. Don't ask what he should do, but rather question why he did nothing.

Shoot the parents. Even if you only get a few it will stop the influx overnight.
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#141 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 12:11 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
When the problem grows exponentially, how did it "suddenly" become a problem?
Obama should have been dealing with this when it was a "small" issue. Now it's catastrophic. Don't ask what he should do, but rather question why he did nothing.

Shoot the parents. Even if you only get a few it will stop the influx overnight.


That's fine with me. Ask your state representative to pass a law requiring we hunt and kill the absentee parents in their home countries.

I'm anticipating the debates with glee.

As for why he did nothing... the increase has been caused by instability in the central/south american countries. If he were to fix this problem he would have 2 options:
1 - increase aid/support to the foreign gov'ts to reduce the instability (I can imagine the headlines for this)
2 - make changes to the "save the poor children from human trafficking" law bush signed into law (Boy... those headlines would be even more insane).

Tail... it's an interestingly unfortunate situation. If it makes you feel any better, I don't think bush could have anticipated this.
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#142 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 8:17 AM EST
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Some lady on the NPRs this morning was saying the children were afraid for their lives and being made to smoke pot and crack and stuff... it's our obligation to save them because the cartels would have killed them eventually...... she also said we should build refugee camps and stuff to keep them in until a judge decides if they can stay or not... Think
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#143 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 8:44 AM EST
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Well, it's good to know Roseanne Roseannadanna was also based on a real person.
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#144 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 8:50 AM EST
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1 theory I have heard makes sense. Legalize illicit drugs thereby removing the danger in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. Unfortunately I cannot agree with this as I see it being a further degradation of our society. Also since this would not improve living conditions would it really have any effect?
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#145 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 9:10 AM EST
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I don't think legalizing it would change much in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras...... Mellow
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#146 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 9:13 AM EST
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It's never productive to look at any situation as it sits now and debate what should be done. It is always more productive to spend time looking backwards not for clues on how to do things better, but blaming for nothing being done. That is part of the quality improvement model. two thumbs up.
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#147 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 9:20 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
It's never productive to look at any situation as it sits now and debate what should be done. It is always more productive to spend time looking backwards not for clues on how to do things better, but blaming for nothing being done. That is part of the quality improvement model. two thumbs up.


So elected officials should always do nothing, until it is too late.
Then they can't be held accountable, because to do so would be "looking backwards".
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#148 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 9:20 AM EST
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[thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Better???
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#149 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 9:21 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So elected officials should always do nothing, until it is too late.
Then they can't be held accountable, because to do so would be "looking backwards".




Exactly. That is exactly what I was saying. Thank you for saying it much more clearly for me. Because it is important to hold him accountable in the next election.
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#150 Posted: Thu, Jul 17 2014, 9:25 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Exactly. That is exactly what I was saying. Thank you for saying it much more clearly for me. Because it is important to hold him accountable in the next election.


Don't let your sarcasm confuse you.
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