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DrafterX Offline
#101 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:09 AM EST
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He wore lots of shoes... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#102 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:12 AM EST
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He stored them all in that stove pipe hat!
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#103 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:16 AM EST
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The guy who suspended habeas corpus, and placed illegal taxes and teriffs on the south to start the civil war? That vampire hunter?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#104 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:17 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
The guy who suspended habeas corpus, and placed illegal taxes and teriffs on the south to start the civil war? That vampire hubter?



Yup...they even made a biopic about it!
ZRX1200 Offline
#105 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:18 AM EST
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I heard CROS spent his life savings on a pair of Abe's underpants.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#106 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:22 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I heard CROS spent his life savings on a pair of Abe's underpants.



That was Abe Figoda
teddyballgame Offline
#107 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:39 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Why did Jesus tell them not to do that?



You mean like 2000 years ago?

And you suppose that Christian religious zealots want to take us back to that age?

I just keep missing those messages in the homilies at Mass. They must be coded.

Madvibe, you are so full of it.

When I want any crap out of you, I will just squeeze your neck.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#108 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:44 AM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
You mean like 2000 years ago?

And you suppose that Christian religious zealots want to take us back to that age?

I just keep missing those messages in the homilies at Mass. They must be coded.

Madvibe, you are so full of it.

When I want any crap out of you, I will just squeeze your neck.



So, you're saying the words of Jesus only applied back then? Was he talking to muslims or not?

You just wait until St. Ted Cruz finds out the sacrilege you're committing!

You ever meet an Amish guy?

If you're really looking for crap...look in a mirror!
teddyballgame Offline
#109 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 11:52 AM EST
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You are such an angry, petulant child.

To spell it out for you, my point was that, yes 2000 years ago the Jewish people were stoning people. Probably Christians too for a while after that. But in this day and age, Muslims stone people.

I consider you and your angry hate filled little posts like the stuff at the bottom of my shoe when I accidentally step in something a dog left.

Now, run along to your next Bernie rally and talk about the evils of big business.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#110 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:03 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
You are such an angry, petulant child.


No I'm not. I won't take your schtick and that's a fact!


teddyballgame wrote:
To spell it out for you, my point was that, yes 2000 years ago the Jewish people were stoning people. Probably Christians too for a while after that. But in this day and age, Muslims stone people.


You didn't spell out a thing. Where are they stoning people?

teddyballgame wrote:
I consider you and your angry hate filled little posts like the stuff at the bottom of my shoe when I accidentally step in something a dog left.


That's nice, but it's most likely you just melting from being embarrassed by me.

teddyballgame wrote:
Now, run along to your next Bernie rally and talk about the evils of big business.


Run, walk...lolligag...I choose my own speed you don't. Now, you? You listen to voices in your head. Those are telling you things that aren't true. You keep on listening to them and running your mouth too. Perhaps you should stop, seek help for mental illnesses and get on some medicine to stop acting like a big jerk.
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#111 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:24 PM EST
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DR. Madd, are you just voting for Bernie, because of your dismal voting record from last time. Or because you hope like all the others you endorsed, they turned out to be a ham sammich.
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#112 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:26 PM EST
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Funny thing is Mitt looks better than all the rights choices now.
tonygraz Offline
#113 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:28 PM EST
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And probably tens of thousands of others too.
victor809 Offline
#114 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:31 PM EST
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usafvet509 wrote:
Hey, Victor. An atheist, a vegan and a crossfitter all walk into a bar. I only know cause they told everybody within a minute....


Yeah... funny you'd tell that joke. Given that the discussion wouldn't have happened if it weren't for some christians saying they'll vote for the candidate who they think will lead by following the christian bible as closely as possible.

But in your perspective that wasn't him telling everybody about how christian he is.... right?
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#115 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:40 PM EST
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usafvet509 wrote:
IF, that's a big IF, a candidate actually follows the Bible (Carson, perhaps? Huckabee?), you could NEVER get sharia law. You got that a little twisted, Victor. The Bible is NOT the Kuran. The Bible teaches forgiveness and grace, not "kill the infidel"



You don't read that bible much do you. Just because you've picked and chosen the bible verses about forgiveness and grace doesn't mean whatever dumb azz politician you vote for will. It doesn't mean that everyone who votes for a politician who wants to "rule by the bible" is thinking of the same cherry picked verses about "forgiveness and grace" and isn't thinking "damnation and hellfire".

Anyone who advocates making contemporary political decisions based on poorly translated and transcribed books from 2000 years ago, a book which has widely divergent and contradictory statements (one moment it's killing adulterers, the next moment it's not killing them) is an idiot.
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#116 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:41 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
Its a good thing Lincoln didn't follow your example as the Bible was one of the few books he had growing up and read multiple times and relied on when making decisions.. oh and he prayed about making the correct decisions as the President too.

And this "random religion" was used as a basis for the Dec of Independence and the Constitution. Congressional meetings were opened with prayer ( I am guessing for prudent guidance).

Stoning to death is done by Muslims, not Christians.


Leviticus 20:27 ESV / 6 helpful votes

“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Well that took 2 seconds.
victor809 Offline
#117 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:43 PM EST
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Deuteronomy 13:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful

You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

3 seconds..
Looks like the bible advocates stoning anyone who follows a different idol.
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#118 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:48 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
Its a good thing Lincoln didn't follow your example as the Bible was one of the few books he had growing up and read multiple times and relied on when making decisions.. oh and he prayed about making the correct decisions as the President too.

And this "random religion" was used as a basis for the Dec of Independence and the Constitution. Congressional meetings were opened with prayer ( I am guessing for prudent guidance).


So... if 1 muslim did a good thing then we should consider running the entire country under the Koran?

Just because Lincoln was christian doesn't mean we should vote for any christian or run the country as a christian nation any more than ghandi being hindu means we should change our nation to a hindi run nation... If your decision making skills extend to "this one guy was this religion, therefore they ALL must be and we should ALL run our country following EVERY passage in that bible", then you have poor decision making skills.
teedubbya Offline
#119 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 12:58 PM EST
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Lincoln certainly wasn't a Catholic. Seriously considering them for the White House is a relatively new thing.
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#120 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 1:52 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
So... if 1 muslim did a good thing then we should consider running the entire country under the Koran?

Just because Lincoln was christian doesn't mean we should vote for any christian or run the country as a christian nation any more than ghandi being hindu means we should change our nation to a hindi run nation... If your decision making skills extend to "this one guy was this religion, therefore they ALL must be and we should ALL run our country following EVERY passage in that bible", then you have poor decision making skills.




You putting up straw men, just to knock them down, doesn't make your point. I see Obama's tactics may be rubbing off on you, but I am not buying it.

Where did I say that we should vote for a Christian, just because?

Where did I state that "this one guy was this religion, therefore they ALL must be and we should ALL run our country following EVERY passage in that bible"?

I said it is a good thing that Lincoln AND the framers didn't share your non beliefs. That is also, more than one man.
teddyballgame Offline
#121 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 1:56 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:



Leviticus 20:27 ESV / 6 helpful votes

“A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Well that took 2 seconds.

Deuteronomy 13:10 ESV / 4 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful

You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

3 seconds..
Looks like the bible advocates stoning anyone who follows a different idol.



..yes, and as I said, Christians aren't stoning people, thank you for making my point. You are quoting Biblical text from around 1400BC ..Christianity wasn't around then now, was it?

So, your straw man here, is that some candidate is suggesting following the entire Bible, chapter and verse?
Again, YOUR straw man.

Nobody has suggested that.
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#122 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:00 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
DR. Madd, are you just voting for Bernie, because of your dismal voting record from last time. Or because you hope like all the others you endorsed, they turned out to be a ham sammich.



Voting for him because I did my homework. Even changed my party affiliation to do so too. 1st time I've ever been a registered Democrat. I now know exactly how Reagan felt switching sides. "I didn't change, the party did!"

Sanders is the only one with a clear and consistent voting record. All of the GOP nominees are insane, bat**** crazy, have so much baggage they're unelectable, religious zealots or combinations of them all!

It's comical to watch Trump stomp a mudhole in the GOP and walk it dry. He's untouchable.
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#123 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:05 PM EST
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Omg, I voted for Reagan the first time and lived to regret it. Hope that doesn't happen to you. If you take the label off of Bernie, I like the direction he is headed, that in and of itself should scare you Doc.
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#124 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:09 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
No I'm not. I won't take your schtick and that's a fact!

You didn't spell out a thing. Where are they stoning people

Run, walk...lolligag...I choose my own speed you don't. Now, you? You listen to voices in your head. Those are telling you things that aren't true. You keep on listening to them and running your mouth too. Perhaps you should stop, seek help for mental illnesses and get on some medicine to stop acting like a big jerk.



Quiet down, I'm educating you!


Muslims stoning muslims-

WARNING Graphic stoning in video 2015 A.D.:
http://shoebat.com/2015/11/23/video-muslims-butcher-woman-by-crushing-her-to-death-with-giant-rocks/

WARNING Graphic stoning in video 2013 A.D.:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1364022789

WARNING Graphic stoning in video 2014 A.D.:
http://www.clarionproject.org/news/video-islamic-state-stones-young-woman-accused-adultery

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/opinions/why-women-stoned-to-death-2015/



These weren't Christians.

Again, you are eviscerated.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#125 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:10 PM EST
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drywalldog wrote:
Omg, I voted for Reagan the first time and lived to regret it. Hope that doesn't happen to you. If you take the label off of Bernie, I like the direction he is headed, that in and of itself should scare you Doc.


Naw...he reminds me of Ron Paul. Loved Ron Paul.

All I know is the US is running out of time to right the ship. We keep on doing the same thing we've done for the past 30 years and it's game over.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#126 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:11 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
Quiet down, I'm educating you!


Muslims stoning muslims-

WARNING Graphic stoning in video 2015 A.D.:
http://shoebat.com/2015/11/23/video-muslims-butcher-woman-by-crushing-her-to-death-with-giant-rocks/

WARNING Graphic stoning in video 2013 A.D.:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=176_1364022789

WARNING Graphic stoning in video 2014 A.D.:
http://www.clarionproject.org/news/video-islamic-state-stones-young-woman-accused-adultery

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/06/opinions/why-women-stoned-to-death-2015/



These weren't Christians.

Again, you are eviscerated.


Look, if you can ignore the words of Jesus for being old...I can ignore that crap too!

Once again...you're a big know nothing tool!
teddyballgame Offline
#127 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:15 PM EST
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Ha! you are such a fool.

I don't ignore Christ's message. But ignore facts all you want.

That is why you embrace Bernie

You are a sad case and I pray for you to gain wisdom- but I fear you are just a mindless drone.

You heard me.. I said a prayer for you.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#128 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:22 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
Ha! you are such a fool.

I don't ignore Christ's message. But ignore facts all you want.

That is why you embrace Bernie

You are a sad case and I pray for you to gain wisdom- but I fear you are just a mindless drone.

You heard me.. I said a prayer for you.



Hey if it makes you feel good to pray....go ahead because your outward appearance here on this site could use all the help it can get.


I embrace Bernie's message wholeheartedly...there isn't some or this and some of that nitpicking you have to do with St.Ted or the rest of the GOP field. All you have is the same the rest of the unintelligent drones have..."He's a socialist" you're stuck in the mud spinning your wheels and ignoring the rest of the message he has. Which GOP candidate is going after Wall Street? NONE. Which one wants to end the wars? NONE. Which one wants government to work for all Americans? NONE. So when you get your nose out of the Bible try to feed your mind as well.
drywalldog Offline
#129 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:32 PM EST
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Teddy, clearly Doc has had an epiphany, now you just need to find out if it's Christ based.
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#130 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:38 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
You putting up straw men, just to knock them down, doesn't make your point. I see Obama's tactics may be rubbing off on you, but I am not buying it.

Where did I say that we should vote for a Christian, just because?

Where did I state that "this one guy was this religion, therefore they ALL must be and we should ALL run our country following EVERY passage in that bible"?

I said it is a good thing that Lincoln AND the framers didn't share your non beliefs. That is also, more than one man.


These aren't strawman arguments. They are mocking your logic intentionally.

Lincoln being christian and reading the bible has nothing to do with the quality of cruz, rubio or any other contemporary politician. similarly, the founding fathers being christian has nothing to do with our laws, because they very specifically did not include their religion in our laws. To include it simply because they were christian is no more significant than stating that george washington wore a wig, therefore we should only vote for politicians who wear wigs. YOU attribute significance to it, because in your mind you're filling in some gaps that you have no facts about. The significance of their religion is a fantasy you've created in your head to justify your decisions.

teedubbya Offline
#131 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:48 PM EST
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The whole wig thing isn't a bad idea though
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#132 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:49 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
..yes, and as I said, Christians aren't stoning people, thank you for making my point. You are quoting Biblical text from around 1400BC ..Christianity wasn't around then now, was it?

So, your straw man here, is that some candidate is suggesting following the entire Bible, chapter and verse?
Again, YOUR straw man.

Nobody has suggested that.



Um... open a bible. Is the old testament in it? If so, it's part of your religion. I'm not making a strawman argument, you simply don't understand. I don't need a candidate to say they want to follow the entire bible. I just need a candidate to say they are relying on the bible when making a political decision once. Once they use that faulty logic once, there is zero reassurance they won't use it again with any other passage in the entire book. And someone who votes for a candidate because that's their decision making process is just as dangerous. These are people who want a christian sharia law, and think it's a good idea.
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#133 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:50 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
These aren't strawman arguments. They are mocking your logic intentionally.

Lincoln being christian and reading the bible has nothing to do with the quality of cruz, rubio or any other contemporary politician. similarly, the founding fathers being christian has nothing to do with our laws, because they very specifically did not include their religion in our laws. To include it simply because they were christian is no more significant than stating that george washington wore a wig, therefore we should only vote for politicians who wear wigs. YOU attribute significance to it, because in your mind you're filling in some gaps that you have no facts about. The significance of their religion is a fantasy you've created in your head to justify your decisions.




The real nuts and bolts architects of the Constitution and Bill of Rights were Deists and not even Christian. They understood that there was a higher power but couldn't actually put their eggs into a manmade religion. They did have faith though.


Just sayin'!
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#134 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:51 PM EST
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The old testimant changes dramatically with Jesus as the conduiate and the new testimant modifies some things. Christianity grew out of the old testimant in a sense. Islam grew out of that but that makes people's heads splode.
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#135 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:52 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Voting for him because I did my homework. Even changed my party affiliation to do so too. 1st time I've ever been a registered Democrat. I now know exactly how Reagan felt switching sides. "I didn't change, the party did!"

Sanders is the only one with a clear and consistent voting record. All of the GOP nominees are insane, bat**** crazy, have so much baggage they're unelectable, religious zealots or combinations of them all!

It's comical to watch Trump stomp a mudhole in the GOP and walk it dry. He's untouchable.


I'm not a fan of Sanders, but I have to respect DMVs willingness to not be a party hack.

Of course... I'm not a fan of any of the crappy options we have right now.... Sanders isn't as bad as many of the options.
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#136 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:55 PM EST
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Cruz and Hillary are the worst. Anyone but those two is an improvement.
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#137 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 2:59 PM EST
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teddyballgame wrote:
Ha! you are such a fool.

I don't ignore Christ's message. But ignore facts all you want.

That is why you embrace Bernie

You are a sad case and I pray for you to gain wisdom- but I fear you are just a mindless drone.

You heard me.. I said a prayer for you.



So... let me get this straight.

Christian religion says it's cool to stone people for some offenses...
Christians aren't currently stoning people.

Your defense that christians aren't going to stone people is because the muslims are doing it?
Muslims religion says it's cool to stone people for some offenses.
Muslims stone people.

H@ll.... I'd bet you'd be the first person in line with a rock if circumstances allowed....
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#138 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:01 PM EST
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I think Jesus got in trouble for contradicting the Old Testament and stuff. It sort of changed things creating Christianity. That's why fundamentalist Christians are against the death penalty and stuff. Wait a minute. Ummmm
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#139 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:02 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Cruz and Hillary are the worst. Anyone but those two is an improvement.


I'm "meh" on hillary. Mostly just tired of all the noise surrounding her and figure if she gets elected I'd have to listen to another 8 years of infantile whining again from the Republican party (8 years, because of course if she gets elected they'll take that as a sign they should get even crazier than the current circus trying to be pres.... and fail even more miserably). Sanders might inspire the republicans to run someone less frothy-at-the-mouth in 4 years....
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#140 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:03 PM EST
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Hillary is Cruz in a jumpsuit without using the bible as a political tool.
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#141 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:04 PM EST
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who's getting circumcised with a rock..?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
#142 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:11 PM EST
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You.
teedubbya Offline
#143 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:11 PM EST
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And your micro pen!s
DrafterX Offline
#144 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:12 PM EST
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no way man... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#145 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:14 PM EST
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Don't worry. They will be using one of those jewelry eyepiece thingies.
teedubbya Offline
#146 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:19 PM EST
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If you are pro death penalty does the mechanism matter much?
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#147 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:38 PM EST
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depends on if I'm the one getting whacked... Mellow
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#148 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 3:53 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
depends on if I'm the one getting whacked... Mellow


Drafter is very particular about how he gets whacked off....

Or at least that's what his emails to me say.
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#149 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:02 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Hillary is Cruz in a jumpsuit without using the bible as a political tool.



Wait...what?


http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/lindavaldez/2015/08/20/hillary-clinton-losing-minority-youth-vote/32088761/
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#150 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:06 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Drafter is very particular about how he gets whacked off....

Or at least that's what his emails to me say.



Yes, it must be a woman's hand.. preferably smaller than mine... Mellow
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