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gummy jones Offline
#151 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:18 PM EST
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dang this thread sure evolved since i last visited

things i agree with: 1) cruz comes off as sleazy and the little jabs his campaign is making doesnt help that
2) bernie is consistent in his desire to raise taxes and redistribute wealth but, imo, that doesnt make it the correct path for our country (consistently wrong is still wrong)
3) hilary embodies everything that is wrong with washington and our ruling class and both sides of the aisle should be in agreement of that
4) trump is a narcissist and a popularist - not sure how anyone can trust anything he says (i sure dont - doesnt mean he is lying but not sure why we should assume he is truthful)
5) rubio is the new choice for the establishment - nuff said
tonygraz Offline
#152 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:25 PM EST
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What , no conclusion on Drafter's deek.
tonygraz Offline
#153 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:26 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Yes, it must be a woman's hand.. preferably smaller than mine... Mellow


I hear Trump has small hands.
gummy jones Offline
#154 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:28 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
What , no conclusion on Drafter's deek.


thats what that is?
i thought he was goin feeshin with that lil worm
DrafterX Offline
#155 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 4:38 PM EST
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freaks... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#156 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 6:09 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm totally cool when someone says thee law of God trumps the law of the land as long as it's my god.

And if it is someone else's God?
Brewha Offline
#157 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 6:10 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
He was a vampire hunter...silly!

He's right.
I saw that movie too...
teedubbya Offline
#158 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 7:35 PM EST
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With drafter it's more like plucked.
frankj1 Offline
#159 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 9:39 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
The old testimant changes dramatically with Jesus as the conduiate and the new testimant modifies some things. Christianity grew out of the old testimant in a sense. Islam grew out of that but that makes people's heads splode.

it is called Judeo-Christian tradition for a reason, but I have lost count how many times I have read (including on these forums) that the Jews do not have a Bible.

Hey Christian Dudes...it's called The Prequel! J/K...the Old T is the only Bible the Jews accept...they figure God needed no editors.

but the rewrites feature:
the NT

Then the Koran

Then the Book of Mormon AKA Ooops, not St. Louis, westward ho

Then a thousand David Koresh type rewrites.

Most describe horrible ways to treat people and wonderful ways to treat people...including love your enemy. I lean toward the love.


edit: Feel the Bern...I'm in Doc.

BTW, it's free TUITION to state schools. Tax supported state schools. Around here that's like a few bucks.
tailgater Offline
#160 Posted: Tue, Feb 23 2016, 9:45 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
The old testimant changes dramatically with Jesus as the conduiate and the new testimant modifies some things. Christianity grew out of the old testimant in a sense. Islam grew out of that but that makes people's heads splode.


Actually, the islamic terrorists bombs make the heads splode...
DrafterX Offline
#161 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:12 AM EST
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Slim Whitman too.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#162 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:40 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
BTW, it's free TUITION to state schools. Tax supported state schools. Around here that's like a few bucks.



Well...lookie look who did their homework!

ThumpUp


Most of the drones are still in the "He's a socialist" camp...I guess they will give up their Federal and state welfare programs that include cash assistance, healthcare and medical provisions, food assistance, housing subsidies, energy and utilities subsidies, education and childcare assistance, and subsidies and assistance for other basic services as well as subsidies of college education, unemployment disability insurance, subsidies for eligible low-wage workers, subsidies for housing, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits, pensions for eligible persons and health insurance programs that cover public employees...AND Social Security and MEDICARE!

After all...its all on the books here in the US now anyways!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_programs_in_the_United_States
DrafterX Offline
#163 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:43 AM EST
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I thought I was paying for my Social Security.... Think

I'm not getting any of that other free stuff.... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#164 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:45 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I thought I was paying for my Social Security.... Think
Mellow



THAT'S a "socialist" program Drafter!

How dare you. Now pray to St.Ted and repent for your sins. Evil wicked socialist!
DrafterX Offline
#165 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:50 AM EST
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I'm not voting for Bernie... Not talking Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
#166 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:52 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I'm not voting for Bernie... Not talking Not talking


You ever notice you Not talking ...a lot when you shouldn't?
DrafterX Offline
#167 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:55 AM EST
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no way man... Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
#168 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:56 AM EST
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We cudda had free smokes from here but you kept on...Not talking

Sad.

Sad
tonygraz Offline
#169 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 8:57 AM EST
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What if he offered free lunch ?
DrafterX Offline
#170 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 9:00 AM EST
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Nothing is free.... Not talking
gummy jones Offline
#171 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 9:02 AM EST
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as long as im not paying its free right?
DrafterX Offline
#172 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 9:06 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
as long as im not paying its free right?


could look at it that way I suppose... but somebody had to pay 17 bucks for that cheeseburger to support that $15 per hour minimum wage increase...
DrafterX Offline
#173 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 9:54 AM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
We cudda had free smokes from here but you kept on...Not talking

Sad.

Sad




it is sad..... I enjoy my cigars and part of it is the satisfaction of knowing I earned it... are you really voting for free stuff..?? Huh
drywalldog Offline
#174 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 10:58 AM EST
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The Cheeseburger would go up 71 cents, if the raised the minimum wage to the full 15.00.
DrafterX Offline
#175 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 11:04 AM EST
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Mellow


LOL LOL
DrMaddVibe Offline
#176 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 11:20 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
it is sad..... I enjoy my cigars and part of it is the satisfaction of knowing I earned it... are you really voting for free stuff..?? Huh



No...I'm not voting for free stuff. My point is that we already have "socialist " programs that work and shouldn't be privitized. Look at how many GOP candidates want that. You will never get what you paid in under that. They're trying to play 3 card Monte with your money. This whole "he's a socialist " mantra the weak minded are perpetuating is easily cured by doing your own legwork. Don't listen to the media as to what candidate to vote for.
DrafterX Offline
#177 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 11:23 AM EST
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I don't... but I'm pretty sure Bernie said he was a Socialist.... or was he just kiddin...Huh
Buckwheat Offline
#178 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 11:37 AM EST
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This song sums up my current political philosophy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEyVq8UOHpA

i.e. Sublime's, Same in the End

We are all going to get screwed in the end. fog
ZRX1200 Offline
#179 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 11:47 AM EST
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How solvent are the socialist programs DMV?

THEY SHOULDN'T EXIST.
teedubbya Offline
#180 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 12:39 PM EST
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Zrx I'm with you there. It's hypocracy that bugs me. Let's not pretend social security and Medicare are not socialist programs. The I pay in argument is bunk. There is no dirrct relationship between pay in and pay out. Yes to an extent and to a limit pay in impacts payout in ss but it is a redistributive social policy with fundamental issues involving input/output.

Many folks are against all socialist policies except the ones that benefit them.

ZRX1200 Offline
#181 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 12:42 PM EST
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Our unfunded liabilities are the ice under the water.
teedubbya Offline
#182 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 12:46 PM EST
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I agree. My issue with the government as a whole is there is no connection between income and expenditure. They are completely de linked from the top of the pyramid to the lower level work being done. Its illogical and dangerous.
DrafterX Offline
#183 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 12:46 PM EST
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Yes.. so because of that we've all been socialists all along... I get it now... Mellow
gummy jones Offline
#184 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 12:51 PM EST
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well we arent bankrupt like europe yet so keep listening to the band and get back to driving that boat
teedubbya Offline
#185 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 12:53 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Yes.. so because of that we've all been socialists all along... I get it now... Mellow



I'm thinking the opposite. We should go the other direction even if it hits a sacred cow or two.
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#186 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:01 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
well we arent bankrupt like europe yet so keep listening to the band and get back to driving that boat

YET...
Buckwheat Offline
#187 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:04 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm thinking the opposite. We should go the other direction even if it hits a sacred cow or two.


Until it's your sacred cow. horse
teedubbya Offline
#188 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:05 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
Until it's your sacred cow. horse



key lime water? no way man.
ZRX1200 Offline
#189 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:08 PM EST
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The sacred cows keep the POS in power.
DrafterX Offline
#190 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:13 PM EST
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screw the sacred cows... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#191 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:18 PM EST
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freak
gummy jones Offline
#192 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:39 PM EST
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id love a sacred burger...preferably unscrewed
DrafterX Offline
#193 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 1:59 PM EST
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can't get them that way... Not talking
victor809 Offline
#194 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 2:31 PM EST
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There isn't a burger in existence drafter hasn't tried having sex with.
DrafterX Offline
#195 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 2:52 PM EST
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I never had sex with a burger... Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
#196 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 3:13 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
well we arent bankrupt like europe yet so keep listening to the band and get back to driving that boat



Couple of factors drive that.

One...The Federal Reserve.

Two...We have a printer.

Our money is just a promise we'll pay it back because it's not linked to anything with an intrinsic value...just a promise.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Oh, we're bankrupt...the plates are still spinning.
tonygraz Offline
#197 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 3:29 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I never had sex with a burger... Not talking


Pre burger tho.
DrafterX Offline
#198 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 3:38 PM EST
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a burger after sex is always a good idea... ThumpUp
victor809 Offline
#199 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 3:43 PM EST
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Drafter f$cks the cow and then eats it??


That's cold man...
gummy jones Offline
#200 Posted: Wed, Feb 24 2016, 3:51 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Couple of factors drive that.

One...The Federal Reserve.

Two...We have a printer.

Our money is just a promise we'll pay it back because it's not linked to anything with an intrinsic value...just a promise.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Oh, we're bankrupt...the plates are still spinning.


true, like every other country currently
but we still have some credibility globally
we can still kind of afford the interest on our debts
we can still almost afford the medicare/medicaid, welfare, etc benefits on the books

but the projections are awful and im just not sure why increased spending with little to no measurable return (aka increasing the war on poverty, etc) is a good idea. no one, including the poorest of the poor nations, is lifted from poverty by getting "free money," only a growing free economy can do that.
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