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tonygraz Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 11:18 AM EST
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If you can't see it, try to find out where the 6 million he raided for veterans is or check out the way he does things like this:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/10/donald-trump-could-be-running-the-greatest-scam-in-american-history/
Krazeehorse Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 12:36 PM EST
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I missed the part in the article where it said the FBI was investigating him for violation of the law. I'm going to re-read it.
dstieger Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 1:10 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
If you can't see it, try to find out where the 6 million he raided for veterans is or check out the way he does things like this:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/04/10/donald-trump-could-be-running-the-greatest-scam-in-american-history/


Who raided what????

I didn't see anything new/news in that article. In fact, I think I heard the same points made (but more succinctly) on Marketplace in January or February.
I don't see anything in that 'article' about veterans, cons or scams. I can't stand the idea of Trump as president, but I have no idea what your point is.
tonygraz Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 4:15 PM EST
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The point is that Trump is making money in the process of running for president and that the money raised for veterans in January has not yet gone to veterans. He is a scammer, con artist and a fraud.
banderl Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 4:32 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
The point is that Trump is making money in the process of running for president and that the money raised for veterans in January has not yet gone to veterans. He is a scammer, con artist and a fraud.



Yet still a better choice than Rafael.
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 4:46 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
Yet still a better choice than Rafael.


and yet Cruz is catching up. I'm really starting to suspect the R's are going to offer him up as their nominee...
ZRX1200 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 5:21 PM EST
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They got Neil Bush onboard.
Krazeehorse Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 9:01 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
and yet Cruz is catching up. I'm really starting to suspect the R's are going to offer him up as their nominee...

I think the party is using Cruz to divide the vote so Trump doesn't come in with a majority and force them to make up new rules. Then they will insert a company man who plays in their sandbox, Kasich or Ryan come to mind.
tonygraz Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 10:13 PM EST
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# 8 - I agree, but insert Romney in place of Ryan- unless Ryan is Lyin"
MACS Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 10:21 PM EST
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The title could have any candidates name and be accurate.

Except Hillary... you'd need to add treasonous.
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2016, 10:49 PM EST
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Cruz is a company man and proving it daily.
Krazeehorse Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:46 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
# 8 - I agree, but insert Romney in place of Ryan- unless Ryan is Lyin"

That fits in with recent Republican strategy, bring in someone that can't close the deal. Throw Palin on the ticket to guarantee a loss.
gummy jones Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 10:10 AM EST
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Krazeehorse wrote:
That fits in with recent Republican strategy, bring in someone that can't close the deal. Throw Palin on the ticket to guarantee a loss.


why not just roll out mccain/palin and get this loss over with
DrafterX Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 10:19 AM EST
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When someone makes a pledge at a fundraiser do they have to cough up the cash right then and there..?? Huh
tonygraz Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 10:25 AM EST
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No, but putting the money into the Trump charity fund and not distributing it for 3 months should be getting some attention. Seems that Trump's charitable contributions all come from his charity fund and he puts no money into that fund himself. Some say he is also a tightwad.
banderl Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 10:35 AM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
No, but putting the money into the Trump charity fund and not distributing it for 3 months should be getting some attention. Seems that Trump's charitable contributions all come from his charity fund and he puts no money into that fund himself. Some say he is also a tightwad.



He doesn't drink.
Says it all.
Buckwheat Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 11:11 AM EST
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Watching the Republicans during this election is like watching someone slowly over the last six months fall to earth without a parachute. You know that the end will likely be pretty ugly and messy. This could finally be what gives rise to a legit third party. We can only hope that it has this positive outcome. fog
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#18 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 12:36 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
No, but putting the money into the Trump charity fund and not distributing it for 3 months should be getting some attention. Seems that Trump's charitable contributions all come from his charity fund and he puts no money into that fund himself. Some say he is also a tightwad.


Are you a stalker? Or just completely obsessed in a strictly platonic manner?
jackconrad Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 5:33 PM EST
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As a Elected Official i can Guarantee you that a Billionaire. Business man would not ever run for President to make money. If Elected he will have to sign off on his Company and it's Profits.. He will lose a Sheet pile of Money.
teedubbya Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 6:15 PM EST
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A small price to pay for the earnings afterwards.
tonygraz Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 6:18 PM EST
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Well if he thinks he can get Mexico to pay for that 20 some odd billion wall, he probably has a plan to make money from the job, even if it's illegal. I think he has lost a lot of money on the way.
gummy jones Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 7:25 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
A small price to pay for the earnings afterwards.


Are you kidding?
Hilary said her and bill left the whitehouse dead broke
Poor hilary
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 8:25 PM EST
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So as jack said there's no money being in the White House to which I said a small price to pay for the earnings afterwards. I'm sensing a forced pre canned statement rather than anything contrary.
teedubbya Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 8:26 PM EST
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Back to my buddy Cruz. He is doing everything but blowing McConnell to steal delegates. Pure outsider stuff.
banderl Offline
#25 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 8:35 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Back to my buddy Cruz. He is doing everything but blowing McConnell to steal delegates. Pure outsider stuff.

He says that he's an outsider, so I have to take him at his word seeing that he's such a devout person.
teedubbya Offline
#26 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 8:53 PM EST
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True true. He's the godliest and the true conservative .... Just ask him.
frankj1 Offline
#27 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:16 PM EST
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I heard he drinks Carling Black Label beer.
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:24 PM EST
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OhMyGod
banderl Offline
#29 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:38 PM EST
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Heard that his favorite sandwich is a moose burger.
teedubbya Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:42 PM EST
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I heard he killed moose and squirrel
teedubbya Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:42 PM EST
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And he has a camel toe.
banderl Offline
#32 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:55 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard he killed moose and squirrel



That bastid.

Heard that his Secret Service name is Boris.
frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:57 PM EST
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^^^
as if that's not Bad-e-noff!
teedubbya Offline
#34 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 9:59 PM EST
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Whatsamattau?
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2016, 10:07 PM EST
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Whatsamatta U?

yet another school that threw me out
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 8:21 AM EST
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smell my hoof... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 9:12 AM EST
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So....Trump is a con-artist yet the GOP is robbing him blind?

If he is a con-artist...he's a pretty piss poor one?
ZRX1200 Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 9:54 AM EST
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Don't ruin the stalker vibe man.......
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 10:10 AM EST
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I don't think the gop is ripping him off. He's just such an outsider he didn't recognize how the game is really played (if you beleive his feigned outrage). It's a learning curve. Political insiders and establishment candidates like lyin Ted have a definite advantage in that regard. It's fair though and there ain't no stealin. It's just refreshing to have Cruz finally admit he's an insider and professional politician with deep Goldman Sachs roots.
dstieger Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 10:17 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I don't think the gop is ripping him off. He's just such an outsider he didn't recognize how the game is really played (if you beleive his feigned outrage).


Possibly true, but I have my doubts. Hard to believe that he didn't surround himself with the right talent with 'game experience'. I can't stand him, but he defines himself as someone who makes the rules work for him. I'm sure he is keenly aware of how its played. But he is also defined as someone who can get his faithful frothing by saying the right trip words, regardless of whether he believes in anything he actually says.
teedubbya Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 10:18 AM EST
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Feigned outrage to serve his purpose? I think I can agree with that.
Krazeehorse Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 10:34 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
A small price to pay for the earnings afterwards.

Probably doing it for the health insurance.
DrafterX Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 10:37 AM EST
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and the free foods..... I heard the President and his extended all eat for free..... Mellow
dstieger Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 11:07 AM EST
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he gets the food bill for him, family and 'guests'....and, trust me, the cooks don't shop at Aldi
teedubbya Offline
#45 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 11:57 AM EST
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Aldi has great produce. Aren't they affiliated with trader joes?
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 12:02 PM EST
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Biden..?? I knew there was a conspiracy there..!! Mad
dstieger Offline
#47 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 12:04 PM EST
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yes...they're the budget version.....I like Aldi....in large part because I can get the same sack of groceries for about half what it cost at Safeway

POTUS cooks try to procure locally sourced food to a large degree...and they vary their sources and shopping routines as security precaution
DrafterX Offline
#48 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 1:19 PM EST
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I thought the FLOTUS brought in a truck load of sludge to grow veggies in... Think
dstieger Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 1:31 PM EST
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News reports were wrong....it was just Kucinich and Pelosi stopping by to visit
DrafterX Offline
#50 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2016, 1:52 PM EST
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If I remember right she tried to say it was already there or somethin.... Think

couldn't take the heat herself... Not talking
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