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Obama Blows Up Fox News Lies and The GOP
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Obama Blows Up Fox News Lies and The GOP With Powerful Debunking In Indiana

By Jason Easley on Wed, Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:25 pm

President Obama took on Fox News/Republican Party lie machine with a powerful debunking of conservative fiction during a speech on the economy in red state Indiana.

First, the President delivered the facts:

"By almost every economic measure, America is better off than when I came here at the beginning of my presidency. That the truth. It’s true. Over the past six years, our businesses have created more than 14 million new jobs. That’s the longest stretch of sustained private sector job growth in our history. We’ve seen the first sustained manufacturing growth since the 1990s. We cut unemployment in half, years before a lot of economists thought we could. We cut the oil that we buy from foreign countries by more than half. Doubled the clean energy that we produce. For the first time ever, ninety-percent of the country has health insurance. In fact, a poll that was out just last week says that two out of every three Americans think their own family’s financial situation is in pretty good shape."

Obama went on to debunk the story about the economy that Republicans are selling, “Their basic story is America’s working class, America’s middle-class, families like yours have victimized by a big bloated federal government run by a bunch of left-wing elitists like me. And the government’s taking your hard earned tax dollars, and it’s giving them to freeloaders and welfare cheats, and we’re strangling business with endless regulations, and this federal government is letting immigrants and foreigners steal whatever jobs Obamacare hasn’t killed yet.”

Later, President Obama added, “Now, I haven’t turned on Fox News or listened to conservative talk radio yet today, but I’ve turned them on enough over the past seven and a half years to know I’m not exaggerating in terms of their story. That’s the story they tell. You can hear it from just about every member of Congress on the other side of the aisle. Instead of telling you what they’re for, they’ve defined their economic agenda by what they’re against, and that’s mainly being against me. And they’re basic message is anti-government, anti-immigrant, anti-trade, and let’s face it, anti-change.”

Obama then busted the Republican myths that the federal government is growing, the budget deficit is growing, there are more families on welfare, and Obamacare has harmed the economy and the middle-class.

President Obama has never taken on the Republican myth machine as directly as he did in Indiana. What Obama’s speech highlighted was the remarkable fact that the Republican Party is running on a platform that is a fantasy. President Obama directly debunked the Republican lie that he is harming business with regulations by pointing out that he has issued the fewest regulations since Ulysses S. Grant.

Republicans, fueled by Fox News and conservative talk radio, have created a fictional America that needs to be saved from the Obama years. President Obama responded to the Republican myths and lies with a sledgehammer of reality to destroy the imaginary universe that Republicans are living in.
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Lol
Yes it's really great
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Brewha wrote:
Obama Blows Up Fox News Lies and The GOP With Powerful Debunking In Indiana

By Jason Easley on Wed, Jun 1st, 2016 at 4:25 pm

President Obama took on Fox News/Republican Party lie machine with a powerful debunking of conservative fiction during a speech on the economy in red state Indiana.

First, the President delivered the facts:

"By almost every economic measure, America is better off than when I came here at the beginning of my presidency. That the truth. It’s true. Over the past six years, our businesses have created more than 14 million new jobs. That’s the longest stretch of sustained private sector job growth in our history. We’ve seen the first sustained manufacturing growth since the 1990s. We cut unemployment in half, years before a lot of economists thought we could. We cut the oil that we buy from foreign countries by more than half. Doubled the clean energy that we produce. For the first time ever, ninety-percent of the country has health insurance. In fact, a poll that was out just last week says that two out of every three Americans think their own family’s financial situation is in pretty good shape."

Obama went on to debunk the story about the economy that Republicans are selling, “Their basic story is America’s working class, America’s middle-class, families like yours have victimized by a big bloated federal government run by a bunch of left-wing elitists like me. And the government’s taking your hard earned tax dollars, and it’s giving them to freeloaders and welfare cheats, and we’re strangling business with endless regulations, and this federal government is letting immigrants and foreigners steal whatever jobs Obamacare hasn’t killed yet.”

Later, President Obama added, “Now, I haven’t turned on Fox News or listened to conservative talk radio yet today, but I’ve turned them on enough over the past seven and a half years to know I’m not exaggerating in terms of their story. That’s the story they tell. You can hear it from just about every member of Congress on the other side of the aisle. Instead of telling you what they’re for, they’ve defined their economic agenda by what they’re against, and that’s mainly being against me. And they’re basic message is anti-government, anti-immigrant, anti-trade, and let’s face it, anti-change.”

Obama then busted the Republican myths that the federal government is growing, the budget deficit is growing, there are more families on welfare, and Obamacare has harmed the economy and the middle-class.

President Obama has never taken on the Republican myth machine as directly as he did in Indiana. What Obama’s speech highlighted was the remarkable fact that the Republican Party is running on a platform that is a fantasy. President Obama directly debunked the Republican lie that he is harming business with regulations by pointing out that he has issued the fewest regulations since Ulysses S. Grant.

Republicans, fueled by Fox News and conservative talk radio, have created a fictional America that needs to be saved from the Obama years. President Obama responded to the Republican myths and lies with a sledgehammer of reality to destroy the imaginary universe that Republicans are living in.


Read it once...skimmed it two more times...I can't find the POWERFUL DEBUNKING part...
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dstieger wrote:
Read it once...skimmed it two more times...I can't find the POWERFUL DEBUNKING part...


Brew meant de-SPUNKing.

And he typed it with one hand...



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Sounds more like a denial to me.... Mellow
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O blew himself.
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well, they say if you tell the lie long enough..... Mellow
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Quote:
“Their basic story is America’s working class, America’s middle-class, families like yours have victimized by a big bloated federal government run by a bunch of left-wing elitists like me. And the government’s taking your hard earned tax dollars, and it’s giving them to freeloaders and welfare cheats, and we’re strangling business with endless regulations, and this federal government is letting immigrants and foreigners steal whatever jobs Obamacare hasn’t killed yet.”


I think he is actually correct for once.
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Brewha wrote:
America’s working class, America’s middle-class, families like yours have victimized by a big bloated federal government run by a bunch of left-wing elitists like me. And the government’s taking your hard earned tax dollars, and it’s giving them to freeloaders and welfare cheats, and we’re strangling business with endless regulations, and this federal government is letting immigrants and foreigners steal whatever jobs Obamacare hasn’t killed yet.”

Obama...



He finally has his Legacy... Laugh
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Lmao

I like how he has to tell himself twice that it's true the economy is better. It's no wonder liberals always lose they either pick terrible cantidates or just lie .





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Why are you guys so sure it's doing poorly?
Certainly the two regions of the country I've lived in have been growing in wealth, in property value, in job availability since Obama came into office.

I've almost doubled my rate in the past 7 years. We literally cannot find people to do the work that needs to be done, and we're talking about 100k/year as the bottom rates. There's a lot of work, and a ton of growth in this region and in this industry.

With that in mind, why are you all so sure that the economy is in shambles?
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Obama bailed out the Porn Industry..?? Huh
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I wish... Those poor girls really work hard for their money.
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I think Bloody was trying to get some Obama-money.... he was pretty unhappy 7 years ago.... Mellow
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Was that because he was doing porn?

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victor809 wrote:
Why are you guys so sure it's doing poorly?
Certainly the two regions of the country I've lived in have been growing in wealth, in property value, in job availability since Obama came into office.

I've almost doubled my rate in the past 7 years. We literally cannot find people to do the work that needs to be done, and we're talking about 100k/year as the bottom rates. There's a lot of work, and a ton of growth in this region and in this industry.

With that in mind, why are you all so sure that the economy is in shambles?

Because denial ain’t just wide – it’s deep too.
Anybody looking at the KPI’s knows he’s done good. Anybody looking at Fox imagines he’s done bad.

They don’t like Obama and can hardly tell you why – over the drool….
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He hates Bald Eagles..!! Mad
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Brewha wrote:
Because denial ain’t just wide – it’s deep too.
Anybody looking at the KPI’s knows he’s done good. Anybody looking at Fox imagines he’s done bad.

They don’t like Obama and can hardly tell you why – over the drool….

The unemployment rate is low and the stock market is high. That's the economy right?

Sarcasm
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The download is much higher than it was in 08, and the unemployment rate is reported at the same level as 08.

But you already knew that and are just waiting to tell me that the Fed has screwed around with the numbers and they don't really mean anything. (but of course the numbers you have are definitely un-screwed with and very meaningful)
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Download = Dow... Damn autocorrect
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victor809 wrote:
Why are you guys so sure it's doing poorly?
Certainly the two regions of the country I've lived in have been growing in wealth, in property value, in job availability since Obama came into office.

I've almost doubled my rate in the past 7 years. We literally cannot find people to do the work that needs to be done, and we're talking about 100k/year as the bottom rates. There's a lot of work, and a ton of growth in this region and in this industry.

With that in mind, why are you all so sure that the economy is in shambles?


My nephew just graduated with a BS in Biotechnology.
You hiring?

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Covfireman wrote:
Lmao

I like how he has to tell himself twice that it's true the economy is better. It's no wonder liberals always lose they either pick terrible cantidates or just lie .

We are talking about Obama, right???
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Any GMP experience? Interest in doing validation?
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victor809 wrote:
Any GMP experience? Interest in doing validation?

What business are you in, Victor?
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Pharma equipment and automation validation...
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Is that what they call the QC Dept. at the deeldo factory now a days?
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That's my weekend volunteer work.
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Community Service ?
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victor809 wrote:
That's my weekend volunteer work.

Six sigma black belt - or just strap on?
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Burner02 wrote:
O blew himself.

Don't be jealous.....
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tailgater wrote:
My nephew just graduated with a BS in Biotechnology.
You hiring?


I have a Masters in BS
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Victor, not all sectors of business see downturns.

How do you feel about the metrics of measure, party aside I don't trust them. What say you?

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You're correct z.
However I can only speak personally about the sectors and cities I am exposed to.

As for the metrics, you can "not trust them" if you want, but unless you have a more "trustworthy" source, you're really not being any different than those sources you claim aren't trustworthy.

The Dow is doing well. That's unassailable. As for workforce participation, if you're going to claim the Fed is lying about their metrics you better have a very clearly nonpartisan source for better metrics, or better "on the ground" personal experience.
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Brewha wrote:
Don't be jealous.....



Not jealous of anything he does.
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For what it might me worth -

I work in the Material Handleing trade. We build the infastructure; the warehouses, distribution centers, cross dock facilities, and general logistics that put food in the grocery stores, shirts in the department stores, ship you Amazon over night orders and everything else you might think of. We move your product and fulfill the orders.

And the industry is booming. Automation you have never heard of; Pick to light, put to light, AGVS, ASRS, High speed sortation, automatic palletizing, depalletizing, Good to person picking, and the new frontier; robotic picking.

So the economy is good and growing in the US. Maybe they are laying off cabbies because of Uber - but the rest of the economy is growing.
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The Fed pumping billions monthly into the dow doesn't inspire my confidence.

Unemployment is a big one.

Also Soetooro saying that 2/3rds of Americans feel financially in a good place?

Brewha, he has not has a DAMN thing to do with oil production/reduction on foreign oil. If you don't know that's all been private land not public leases he's blocked then you're obtuse.
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been booming in and around Boston since before people even noticed the worst was over...but it usually does. Despite the nonsense you read and hear (and mindlessly repeat) the myth of Taxachusetts is just that, a myth, This part of the country tends to suffer a little less when things get bad and tends to recover earlier and more than most of the country. Higher employment, less poverty, imagine that in the Cradle of Entitled Libtards! And we recently voted in a Republican Governor!

The company I work for is buying the building next door to us and will be virtually doubling our manufacturing capabilities. And we are the only place one can buy our retail products (metcabinet.com)!

One can decide to root for a side or against a side, or one can be honest see reality. Hoping for a side to fail is just unAmerican to me, and that is what the GOP decided to do for 8 EFFING years.Painful as it may be to admit, 98.2% of us are better off than we were 8 years ago...unless one is so determined to hate that positive things are painful to acknowledge.


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It's nice when the feds don't ruin your economy.

I'll live vicariously through you.
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not all boats rise with the tide, but most do.

some industries adapt (trash companies are probably the biggest hitters in recycling) and some don't. I'm not bright enough to explain why stupid ideas are working.
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Out west it's a different animal my friend.
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frankj1 wrote:
been booming in and around Boston since before people even noticed the worst was over...but it usually does. Despite the nonsense you read and hear (and mindlessly repeat) the myth of Taxachusetts is just that, a myth....



Except that the price of cigars almost doubled a couple a three years ago thanks to taxes in MA.
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tonygraz wrote:
Except that the price of cigars almost doubled a couple a three years ago thanks to taxes in MA.

example?
I do not find that to be true. New York, maybe, but not here.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Out west it's a different animal my friend.

maybe the truth lies in between, but our realities are likely based more on our immediate experiences...but I find it hard to believe that your state is not experiencing some rebirth since 2008. Maybe not all industries, but some industries will evaporate only to be replaced by something else, even in a world governed by conservatives.
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Economy seems to be doing well here.
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teedubbya wrote:
Economy seems to be doing well here.

waaaahhhhh

oh, sorry. thought you were a typical conservative.
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DrafterX wrote:
well, they say if you tell the lie long enough..... Mellow

You can join the GOP....
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Oh yeah, we're experiencing a rebirth in subsidized "green business".

Our one party rule by.....I'll let you fill in that blank......has wrecks our budget, and drove business out. Only thing growing is some small industry like vinyards, micro breweries and distilleries.

Our......fine leadership is trying to pass a GROSS TAX on business. Not net. Gross......

Intel is leaving Portland. And even NIKE is talking about it.
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Jeez! I woulda thunk you guys had the blueprint for a MA type economy.
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Too many dudes with man buns up there.
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Only problem is that the facts he quotes are manufactured numbers. The. Middle class is dying off. The welfare class is growing. Jobs are down. Unemployment is higher than the numbers because many people just can't find work and aren't counted as unemployed. Wages are stagnant. Stocks are wobbly.

I guess if you think the growth of government is good then we are doing great. But soon there will be not enough working to take care of the nonworking. Fox News is not the culprit. They are conservative based and many people hate conservatives because they want people to be part of the solution and not just be part of the nanny state.
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