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It's obvious the media is in the suit-pant pocket of the Hill Dog.
We get it.

But this whole issue with Trump and the Gold Star families?
The media is chasing down members of the GOP to get comments, and of course none of them are positive.

But where was this push from the media when Hillary did the same thing to the gold star mom of a soldier who died in Benghazi?

Compare the two:
A. Trump is an idiot who said stupid things.
B. Hillary is a greasy dirtbag who said stupid things.

But Hillary's comments are WORSE than Trumps. Trump didn't LIE to the parents. Trump wasn't involved in their son's death. Trump isn't calling the parents liars.

Both are despicable. I get that.
But bring it to a personal level:
If my kid died in service and somebody said the things Trump said, I'd be furious.
But if somebody else was a reason he died? And then lied to me? And then called me a liar when I call them out?

Perspective.

Neither side has any. But the left wear their ignorance like a badge of honor.

When did she do this?

We can debate all we want. The basic question is simple. Who do you think will be our best president. It is unfortunate that the 2 people with a realistic chance of winning and becoming president are not great choices.

I would be too, however there is one big difference and god forbid any such event in your family, I doubt you would use your family tragedy to promote a politician of any ilk, much less base that promotion on a distortion of the what was said. A proposed moratorium on muslim immigrants, what Trump proposed as did Jimmy Carter implement(?) versus outright banning muslims and deporting them all.

Election hyperbole, SOP, unlike the past, Trump feeding it back 100x, the democrats are just not used to taking their own medicine. Republicans have almost always just rolled over wringed their hands when attacked. Like it or not, Trump is beating them at their own game. The voters are eating it up, but it's still disgusting. At least the democrats now know what it feels like to be on the receiving end for a change.

Victimhood: Personally, I do not feel victims or families of victims of a tragedy have some special insight as to what should or shouldn't be done to prevent the next one, a great example are the 911 families. They have every right to their opinion and their grief, but that doesn't magically imbue them with the knowledge to resolve such issues or to decide if anyone else has contributed. It also does not give them licence to say anything they please without taking the consequences for what they say.

As to the title of this thread, Fair and Balanced, a Fox News slogan, does not apply to their coverage of Trump. I try my best to avoid the news, but I'm not the only person in my house. With a couple of exceptions, I get the distinct feeling most of Fox news personalities are not fans of Trump at all.

I know this will stress some of you out since you will in essence be agreeing with Fox News, but facts are facts.

Don't delude yourself for a second that won't happen with Trump.

On the issue of the Benghazi terror strikes, Clinton denied telling family members of people killed in the Sept. 11, 2012, incident on a U.S. outpost in Benghazi, Libya, that the attack was sparked by an anti-Islam video and was not terrorism.

She instead suggested the family members misunderstood her because they were overwhelmed by grief.

“I understand the grief and the incredible sense of loss that can motivate that,” Clinton said. “As other members of families who’ve lost loved ones have said, that's not what they heard. I don't hold any ill feeling for someone who, in that moment, may not fully recall everything that was or wasn't said.”

And how do you know she's lying about that?

Al Capone was convicted for tax evasion and not all the murders, muggings, extortion... he ordered or committed himself. He was a good liar too.

Victor,
You and I don't always see eye to eye on the issues.
But you're not usually this for off base.

It's not JUST the gold-star family lies here.

It's everything.

You want lies on tape?
Watch the multitude of youtube videos showing Hillary lying about the emails, with the FBI director saying the complete opposite time and time again.

At least she forgives them for being liars...

I'm going backwards on my responses here, but your post proves my point.

Trump lies and it's front page.
Hillary lies and you get opposing forces trying to define how much she lied.

Maybe it was simply too much when she landed in Bosnia under sniper fire...wait. Oh, nevermind.

It depends on what the definition of "is" is.

I tend to agree with her here.

The important part of the story is "american dead". the important part isn't "because of riot due to video" or "because of planned attack". Either way americans are dead. If you think the important part is trying to parse whether a politician correctly identified the cause within the first 72 hours (there is plenty of time for analysis later)... then I'd say you've got your priorities wrong. But that's just me.

The important part of the story is NOT "american dead". It's that the CIA were selling guns and holding hostages at an annex building. They attacked the place for over 8 hours. They smoked out a US ambassador of his safe room and killed him.

Then again, you tend to believe her lies.

I really thought you were smarter than that. Thanks for clearing that up. Your priorities are wrapped up in defending lies. Good luck with that, but then again...you're used to it. You're a useful idiot to a power elite that wipe their feet on your back.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/why-hillary-clinton-keeps-lying/493841/

I think the perceive bias in the media is largely owing to Trump being an embarrassment to his party. Add to this our on going embarrassment in front of other countries because of his grade school remarks and it seems clear why news would focus on his foibles.

Well, it seems that Democrats, even Sanders supporters, are firmly behind Clinton. Trump has the most splintered of parties - even his own peeps won't endorse him.

Clinton's foreign policies are (today) a continuation of Obama's - that are well received and respected. Trump, while he really has no cogent policy - has gained disrespect from many nations, that he truly earned.

So no - not the same - not even close - diametrically opposed in fact.

Yeah...and yet the Obama supporters voted for him twice because he was an " eloquent speaker " he had No endearing qualities or foreign policy experience, in a nutshell you voted for a Community Organizer and your making fun of Trump and his supporters???..... you guys don't require much @ all from your POTUS do ya's ?

It was not eloquence alone. Some us us also understood both the words and the ideas.

But, any practical measure - he ase been the best president in our time.
Don't you think?

Brewha, so your good with lying, scumbag, elitist?

I think I made it clear that I would not vote for Trump.

But I remember when we had beers in Dallas, and you told me of you respect for him - not just as a president or a Democrate, but as a man.
A strong, tall, muscular black man......



... Or maybe Drafter said that ....

Ha Ha Ha, what kind of drugs were you on that night?

Next herf I'll remind you what I said, they wont let me post it here on the boards.

Now if you would bother to look, I did not insult Mikey - who disagreed with my "biases". So much for the consistency theory.

I'll have you know I take great pride giving a few hopefully well crafted insults - playful and not. But when they are only dispensed when earned - I mean that's only good manners. Or, manners of some kind anyway.

I did in fact have a smirk on my face when I wrote it. Not because I didn't believe it, but rather the audience I wrote in in front of. Why, you would not believe how polarized and hateful some people can be on this forum.....

Would you?

You conflate "believing" or "defending" lies with being interested in evidence over predisposed dislike for her.

If your biggest concern is whether a dead american's family was told they were killed by a riot or a premeditated attack within the first 72 hours (when we know they were eventually given the accurate information), then perhaps she's done a great job.

I mean seriously... the way the republicans talk she's the devil incarnate. And the best she's managed to do is that? I think you should expect a bit more in your evil incarnate.

I didn't even want the dems to nominate her... but I'm pretty unimpressed with the scandal everyone wants to try to bring her down on.