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banderl Offline
#501 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:42 PM EST
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
“Didn't she [Hillary Clinton] spend $12.4 million on a dossier that was a total phony, right, $12.4 million?”

Topic: Russia

Source: Remarks

Trump is referring to payments made by the Clinton campiagn and the Democratic National Committee to a law firm, Perkins Cole, during the campiagn. But the research firm Fusion GPS, which was contracted to assemble the dossier on Trump's ties to Russia, says it cost $168,000.
banderl Offline
#502 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:43 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“Michigan hadn't been won in many, many years by a Republican. Hillary Clinton went there in an emergency because she was told that day that she was doing badly in Michigan. She went there. She had a crowd of like 600 people.”

Topic: Election

Source: Remarks

Clinton had a crowd of 4,600 at her rally at Michigan's Grand Valley State University the day before the election.
banderl Offline
#503 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:44 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“Getting rid of the Johnson Amendment -- study that up -- that's a big thing. That's a big thing. A lot of people are very, very, happy about that.”

Topic: Taxes

Source: Remarks

The Johnson Amendment prohibits churches from endorsing or opposing political candidates. But efforts to eliminate it as part of the tax bill failed and the provision was removed. Trump signed an executive order related to the amendment but its impact is limited.
banderl Offline
#504 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:44 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“I don't disrespect NATO. I think NATO is wonderful. But you know what? We're paying for 80 percent of NATO -- could be higher. They say 72 percent. So, we're paying for 80 percent of NATO.”

Topic: Foreign policy

Source: Remarks

Full story

Direct spending for NATO is governed by a formula based on each nation's gross national income — the total domestic and foreign output claimed by residents of a country. With the largest economy in NATO, the United States pays the largest share — about 22 percent. Germany is second, with about 15 percent. Trump gets his 72 percent figure by counting the U.S. share of all defense expenditures, even though many of those U.S. expenses have nothing to do with NATO or European defense. Long before Trump became president, NATO had set a guideline of each member spending at least 2 percent of gross domestic product on defense -- by 2024.
banderl Offline
#505 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:45 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“We're funding them like they haven't been funded in a long time -- best equipment you can get. Our military is getting stronger, and I expect that very soon, I'll be able to say stronger than ever before. It was very depleted when I got here. It's not going to be depleted any longer.
Repeated 10 times
Dec 30, 2017Dec 22Dec 20Dec 18Dec 15Dec 12Dec 7Dec 6Nov 23Nov 15

Topic: Foreign policy

Source: Remarks

Trump claims the military has been depleted due to years of budget cuts, while bragging to members of the Coast Guard that the days of a lean military are over. With this claim, Trump glosses over important military milestones and reveals he appears to have little understanding of the federal budget process. With respect to Trump’s “cuts,” the decreased military budget reflects the close of two wars: the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan. Despite the decreased budget, the total budget is still larger than it was in 2000, before either war began.
banderl Offline
#506 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:46 PM EST
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“And we're also getting into the pool of the 100 million people that are not working. That pool is now coming back. As you know, that's not considered in the low employment numbers, which means we have a lot of people that want to get to work, and that will be working.”

Topic: Jobs

Source: Remarks

Full story

This is an absurd Four-Pinocchio claim, based on a real number. The Bureau of Labor Statistics, relying on a monthly survey known as the Current Population Survey (CPS), shows that, as of November 2017, 95.4 million Americans 16 years and older were “not in labor force.” How is this number developed? Well, there is a civilian noninstitutional population of 255.9 million people, and 160.5 million are in the labor force. The difference yields the 95.4 million figure. But the unemployment rate is only 4.1 percent because just 6.2 million people actively are looking for a job and cannot find one. They are considered part of the overall labor force. In other words, you have to be seeking a job to be counted in the labor force. Who are the 95 million not in the labor force? The BLS has data for the year 2015. It turns out that 93 percent do not want a job at all. The picture that emerges from a study of the data shows that the 95 million consists mostly of people who are retired, students, stay-at-home parents or disabled. (In fact, contrary to Trump's statement, this figure has grown during his presidency.)
banderl Offline
#507 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:47 PM EST
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“But to get it going the way I really want, where we have GDP getting up to 4, 5, and even 6 percent -- because I think that's possible. If you look back in your notes, you'll say when I said 4 percent, people said that would be years. Well, it's turned out that I'm right because without the hurricanes this last quarter, we would have hit 4 percent.”

Topic: Economy

Source: Remarks

Trump promised four percent annual growth in the gross domestic product, not quarterly growth.
banderl Offline
#508 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:48 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“They want to have illegal immigrants pouring into our country, bringing with them crime, tremendous amounts of crime.”
banderl Offline
#509 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:49 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“If you look at what's happened in West Virginia and so many different places, we're sending clean coal. We're sending it out to different places -- China. A lot of coal ordered in China right now.”

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Remarks

Full story

Coal exports to China did increase in 2017, but the coal is not coming from West Virginia. In 2015 and 2016 the state exported no coal to China. Furthermore, clean coal is confusion of terms. Coal releases noxious chemicals and CO2 when it is burned, and electricity generating plants can reduce pollution by capturing the some of the emissions from the smokestack. But the coal itself is not cleaner.
banderl Offline
#510 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:49 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“Some people think that the natural resources of Utah should be controlled by a small handful of very distant bureaucrats located in Washington. And guess what? They're wrong.”

Topic: Environment

Source: Prepared speech

The management of the lands covered by the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments, which Trump shrank, is handled by local representatives of the Bureau of Land Management.
banderl Offline
#511 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:50 PM EST
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“We will also restore your access and your enjoyment. Public lands will once again be for public use.”

Topic: Environment

Source: Prepared speech

Public access is already allowed in Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante, which have become major tourist areas.
banderl Offline
#512 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:50 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“Cattle will graze along the open range.”

Topic: Environment

Source: Prepared speech

Cattle already graze in the monument areas.
banderl Offline
#513 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:51 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“Many people in our Country are asking what the ‘Justice’ Department is going to do about the fact that totally Crooked Hillary, AFTER receiving a subpoena from the United States Congress, deleted and ‘acid washed’ 33,000 Emails?”

Topic:

Source: Twitter

The Hillary Clinton emails were deleted with a free software program known as BleachBit; there is no such thing as "acid washed." Clinton's staff had requested the emails to be deleted months before the subpoena, according to the FBI's August 2016 report. Moreover, there's no evidence Clinton deleted the emails in anticipation of the subpoena, and FBI director James Comey has said his agency's investigation found no evidence any work-related emails were "intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them."
banderl Offline
#514 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:52 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“The Kate Steinle killer came back and back over the weakly protected Obama border, always committing crimes and being violent, and yet this info was not used in court. His exoneration is a complete travesty of justice. BUILD THE WALL!”

Topic: Immigration

Source: Twitter

Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, who fired the shot that killed Steinle, was convicted of non-violent offenses.
banderl Offline
#515 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:53 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“You know, for years, they have not been able to get tax cuts -- many, many years, since Reagan.”

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

Both George W. Bush and Barack Obama signed into law major tax cuts.
banderl Offline
#516 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:54 PM EST
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“We've already made tremendous progress -- far greater than I would have thought. I will tell you this in a non-braggadocious way, there has never been a 10-month President that has accomplished what we have accomplished. That I can tell you.”
banderl Offline
#517 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:54 PM EST
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“And they were all saying, forget it, forget it. It was 1.2. It was doing terribly. We were flat. We were even. In all fairness, the stock market was going this way. (motion down)”
banderl Offline
#518 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:55 PM EST
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“Many Democrats have promised tax cuts that don't mean anything because they really want major tax increases. Senator Claire McCaskill -- have you ever heard of her?...She wants your taxes to go up.”

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

McCaskill did not support the GOP tax plan but has supported a cut in the corporate tax rate. She has not advocated raising taxes.
banderl Offline
#519 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:55 PM EST
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“"And now, we're hitting [Gross Domestic Product] numbers that nobody thought possible, certainly not in this time....By the way, 3 percent -- did you ever think you'd hear that in less than a year?”
Repeated 11 times
Jan 8, 2018Dec 13, 2017Dec 8Nov 29Oct 31Oct 17Oct 11Oct 11Oct 7Sep 28Sep 27

Topic: Economy

Source: Prepared speech

Trump routinely touts quarterly GDP growth of 3 percent, suggesting the figure was unheard of being he took office. But GDP growth has routinely topped 3 percent on a quarterly basis. Most recently, GDP growth hit 3.5 percent in the third quarter of 2016 while Obama was still in office.
banderl Offline
#520 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 5:56 PM EST
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“And by the way, what happened -- what happened is Obama took a long time -- years -- to get Obamacare, right?”

Topic: Health care

Source: Prepared speech

Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law 14 months after taking office.
tailgater Offline
#521 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:08 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Speyside wrote:
You're right Joe. Trump does do a lot of unadulterated partisan blathering. Though he also does a lot of ego related blathering. It's a good thing Bob is pointing out the truth. It is quite entertaining to read a little of the quacker's blathering as well.


Trump is a lot of things, and he does indeed blather on to boost his ego.
But Partisan?
Before this election cycle he was half democrat.
He's a chameleon but some only see what they want to see, and as we've learned by now much of it is fully orchestrated by Trump himself.

Well, at least those with even a smattering of intelligence have learned by now.

Now, let's sit back and watch Banderl's head explode.
banderl Offline
#522 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:20 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“The current [tax] system has cost our nation millions of American jobs, trillions and trillions of dollars, and billions of hours wasted on paperwork and compliance.”

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

These are hyper-exaggerated figures that appear not to be based on any solid studies.
banderl Offline
#523 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:21 PM EST
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
“[The tax bill] is going to cost me a fortune, this thing -- believe me.”
banderl Offline
#524 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:21 PM EST
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“You know, I keep hearing Schumer, 'This is for the wealthy.' Well, if it is, my friends don't know about it. I have to explain why.”
banderl Offline
#525 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:22 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“We're bringing the rates down from 35 percent -- which is totally non-competitive. The highest industrialized nation in the world, by far, and we're bringing it all the way down to 20 percent.”
Repeated 33 times
Dec 5, 2017Nov 29Nov 6Nov 5Nov 2Nov 1Oct 25Oct 24Oct 18Oct 17Oct 17Oct 17Oct 17Oct 17Oct 16Oct 16Oct 10Oct 10Oct 7Oct 6Oct 6Sep 28Sep 26Sep 6Sep 6Jul 25Jul 25Jul 25Jul 12Jun 21May 5May 4Apr 28

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

Full story

Trump almost never gets this correct. The Pew Research Center, using 2014 data, found that the tax bill for Americans, under various scenarios, is below average for developed countries. In 2014, according to comparative tables of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), revenue as a percentage of the gross domestic product — the broadest measure of the economy — was 26 percent for the United States. Out of 34 countries, that put the United States in the bottom third — and well below the OECD average of 34.4 percent.
banderl Offline
#526 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:23 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“The beating heart of our plan is a tax cut for working families.”
banderl Offline
#527 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:23 PM EST
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“We're also going to eliminate tax breaks and complex loopholes taken advantage of by the wealthy.”
Repeated 11 times
Dec 30, 2017Dec 13Dec 13Dec 8Dec 6Nov 29Nov 29Nov 28Nov 27Nov 7Nov 2

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

Full story

Few loopholes were eliminated. In particular, Trump failed to eliminate the carried interest loophole exploited by hedge fund managers as he had promised.
banderl Offline
#528 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:24 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“When you lose by one vote, then it's called -- you go back. You know, some people said, oh, you failed with health-care. I said, what do you mean we failed? We didn't fail.”
Repeated 5 times
Nov 29, 2017Oct 16Sep 6Aug 22Aug 15

Topic: Health care

Source: Prepared speech

Trump suggests that Sen. John McCain's vote was the only impediment to passing a repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act. But none of the substantive replacement bills got nearly enough votes, and McCain's vote was against a "skinny" repeal that was only to lead to talks with the House on a common position, with no guarantee of an agreement that would pass both Houses. Trump and the Republicans clearly failed to advance their bill.
banderl Offline
#529 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:24 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“And because we've cut regulations more than any President in the history of this country by far, and that's for full terms.”
Repeated 18 times
Jan 8, 2018Dec 30, 2017Dec 27Dec 18Dec 14Dec 8Nov 29Nov 29Nov 6Nov 2Nov 2Oct 31Oct 17Oct 13Oct 11Oct 10Oct 7Oct 6

Topic: Economy

Source: Prepared speech

Full story

This claim cannot be verified as there is not enough data for a comparison, but it's especially a stretch to say he's done more in ten months than any full term president.
banderl Offline
#530 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:26 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“You saw what happened recently where the certain agency or bureau that was causing so much trouble to lenders, where they could not lend. They just couldn't lend. It was devastating. They were going out of business. Well, we're taking care of that. We've already taken care of a big part of it, and yesterday you saw we won the lawsuit.”
Repeated 1 time
Nov 25, 2017

Topic: Economy

Source: Prepared speech

Despite Trump's claim about the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, the banking industry is quite healthy. Federally insured commercial banks and savings institutions reported more than 5 percent growth in the third quarter from a year earlier, with 67 percent citing year-over-year growth in quarterly earnings.
banderl Offline
#531 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:27 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“And when you have the highest ratings, in terms of confidence, that the country has had in many, many years -- maybe ever -- things happen.”
Repeated 3 times
Dec 12, 2017Nov 29Nov 28

Topic: Economy

Source: Prepared speech

The Consumer Confidence Index of the Conference Board is at its highest level in 17 years, but it is not the highest ever. The 129.5 level is still well below the peak of 144.7 reached toward the end of the Bill Clinton administration before the 2001 recession.
banderl Offline
#532 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:28 PM EST
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“He understands our plan, which will provide relief from the horrible, crushing, unfair estate tax, also known to many as the death tax. We want to make it easier for loving families to pass on their life’s work to their children.”
Repeated 6 times
Jan 8, 2018Dec 22, 2017Dec 20Nov 29Sep 27Sep 27

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

Full story

The estate tax affects very few Americans each year. Only about 5,500 estates — out of nearly 3 million estates — would have to pay any taxes in 2017. About half of estates subject to the tax would pay an average tax of about 9 percent.
banderl Offline
#533 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:28 PM EST
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“I think now it’s $4 trillion to $5 trillion. All that money is coming back into the United States, and it’s going to be invested in our country, instead of sitting and helping others.”
Repeated 22 times
Dec 22, 2017Dec 13Dec 8Nov 29Nov 28Nov 27Nov 2Nov 2Nov 2Nov 1Oct 31Oct 25Oct 25Oct 24Oct 17Oct 11Oct 7Sep 22Sep 6Sep 5Aug 30Jul 25

Topic: Taxes

Source: Prepared speech

Trump keeps inflating the amount of money held overseas by U.S. companies. Just last month he estimated there was $3 trillion, and here he says "$4 trillion to $5 trillion," suggesting his numbers are fabrications. There are no official, current numbers on the profits held overseas by U.S. companies, just estimates. The White House would not respond to a query on where Trump is getting these numbers, but his high-end figure appears to be an exaggeration. The Internal Revenue Service in 2012 said the figure was $2.3 trillion, and the Joint Committee on Taxation estimated that it had risen to $2.6 trillion in 2015. There are other estimates as well, but none top $2.8 trillion.
banderl Offline
#534 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:39 PM EST
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“So now that Matt Lauer is gone when will the Fake News practitioners at NBC be terminating the contract of Phil Griffin? And will they terminate low ratings Joe Scarborough based on the “unsolved mystery” that took place in Florida years ago? Investigate!”

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Twitter

Trump referred to an unproven conspiracy theory about the 2001 death of an aide who worked for then-House Representative Scarborough. But there is no mystery. Medical Examiner Dr. Michael Berkland has said the aide lost consciousness because of an abnormal heart rhythm and fell, hitting her head on a desk. The head injury caused the death, Berkland said.
banderl Offline
#535 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:41 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“You know what I’ve done for farmers. Where if you had a little puddle in the middle of your field, you go to jail if you touch it, right? You know what I’m talking about. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore.”
Repeated 7 times
Jan 8, 2018Nov 29, 2017Jul 25Jul 19Jul 12Jun 21Feb 28

Topic: Environment

Source: Prepared speech

Full story

Trump signed an executive order instructing a review of a controversial regulation issued during the Obama administration, called the “Waters of the United States” rule. The Obama-era rule technically has an exemption for puddles. But opponents of the rule argue say since a “puddle” is not defined in the rule, the EPA can still regulate what some people may consider puddles. After the rule was issued in 2015, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit issued a nationwide stay blocking it from taking effect. No one has gone to jail for violating just the "puddle" aspect of the rule.
Kawak Offline
#536 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:54 PM EST
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Posts: 4,025
tailgater wrote:
Trump is a lot of things, and he does indeed blather on to boost his ego.
But Partisan?
Before this election cycle he was half democrat.
He's a chameleon but some only see what they want to see, and as we've learned by now much of it is fully orchestrated by Trump himself.

Well, at least those with even a smattering of intelligence have learned by now.

Now, let's sit back and watch Banderl's head explode.










Too late, but I have to admit, I am thoroughly enjoying watching the unhinged behavior. It's like watching election night over and over and over and over and over. See Young Turks Election night youtube. I'm pretty sure Bandy is one of those peeps.
banderl Offline
#537 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:57 PM EST
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“We're building [the military] up stronger, bigger, better than ever before.”

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Remarks

This is misleading. The total military budget peaked in 2010 at $774 billion. Since 2011, the base budget of the military budget is capped by the Budget Control Act which aims to reduce the deficit by reigning in federal spending. Without changes to the BCA caps the base military budget can only increase within a pre-designated range. Spending on overseas contingency operations is not constrained by the BCA, but it is unlikely OCO spending will increase over war-time spending.
banderl Offline
#538 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:57 PM EST
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“It's going to have lots of adjustments before it ends, but the end result will be a very, very massive -- the largest in the history of our country -- tax cut.”
banderl Offline
#539 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:58 PM EST
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“I'm very happy to see that the consumer confidence level is just about the highest it's ever been. If fact -- I don't want to make any mistakes in front of the press because you'll get me on it -- but to the best of my knowledge, it's the highest it's ever been. Consumer confidence has been setting records.”
banderl Offline
#540 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 6:59 PM EST
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“We should have a contest as to which of the Networks, plus CNN and not including Fox, is the most dishonest, corrupt and/or distorted in its political coverage of your favorite President (me). They are all bad. Winner to receive the FAKE NEWS TROPHY!”

Topic: Biographical record

Source: Twitter

Under no polling is Trump rated as America's favorite president. His disapproval ratings are sky-high, the worst of any recent president completing his first year.
banderl Offline
#541 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:00 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“It's going to be a tremendous tax cut -- the biggest in the history of our country.”
Repeated 55 times
banderl Offline
#542 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:00 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“Despite this, I have the economy booming and have possibly done more than any 10 month President. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
Repeated 15 times
Dec 27, 2017Dec 23Dec 22Dec 22Dec 8Nov 29Nov 26Nov 5Nov 2Oct 17Aug 22Aug 11Jul 25Jul 19Jul 17

Topic: Economy

Source: Twitter

By just about any measure, Trump inherited a booming economy and has signed fewer bills in his first year than the last ten presidents.
banderl Offline
#543 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:01 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“I endorsed Luther Strange in the Alabama Primary. He shot way up in the polls but it wasn't enough.”
Repeated 1 time
Dec 28, 2017

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Twitter

Polls indicate that Trump's endorsement made little difference -- and in fact Strange lost to Ray Moore by a greater margin than polls suggested at the time of Trump's endorsement.
banderl Offline
#544 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:01 PM EST
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“The last thing we need in Alabama and the U.S. Senate is a Schumer/Pelosi puppet who is WEAK on Crime, WEAK on the Border, Bad for our Military and our great Vets, Bad for our 2nd Amendment, AND WANTS TO RAISES TAXES TO THE SKY. Jones would be a disaster!”

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Twitter

Doug Jones, the Democratic senate candidate, is a former federal prosecutor. He did not advocate for any tax increase and in fact supported a corporate tax cut.
banderl Offline
#545 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:02 PM EST
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In particular, [the Coast Guard in] Texas has been incredible. You saved 16,000 lives -- nobody knows that -- 16,000 lives. In fact, when I first heard the number, I said, you mean like, six hundred? Five hundred? Sixteen thousand lives in Texas. So, as bad as that hurricane was -- and that was a bad one. That was a big water job, right? It kept coming in and going back. They couldn’t get rid of it. They’ve never seen -- I guess it was the biggest water dump they’ve ever seen. But when you get 16,000 -- good to see this group of people. But when you do 16,000, that’s really something.”

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Remarks

The Coast Guard rescued 11,000 people in Texas.
banderl Offline
#546 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:03 PM EST
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“We're ordering a lot of planes, in particular the F-35 fighter jet, which is, you know, almost like an invisible fighter. I was asking the Air Force guys, I said, how good is this plane? They said, well, sir, you can't see it. I said, yeah, but in a fight -- you know, a fight -- like I watch in the movies -- they fight, they're fighting. How good is this? They say, well, it wins every time because the enemy cannot see it.”
Repeated 1 time
Oct 3, 2017

Topic: Foreign policy

Source: Remarks

The F-35 jet uses stealth technology but this does not mean it is invisible or even that it cannot be detected by radar. According to the manufacturer, Lockheed Martin: "Stealth is not invisibility. Rather, stealth gives the F-35 the ability to elude or greatly complicate an enemy’s ability to find and destroy an aircraft using a combination of design, tactics and technology."
banderl Offline
#547 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:03 PM EST
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“It's sad when we're selling our equipment to other countries but we're not buying it ourselves, okay? But now that's all changed.”

Topic: Foreign policy

Source: Remarks

This is a nonsensical statement. The United States bought military equipment that it also sold to other countries.
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#548 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:04 PM EST
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Posts: 28,823
Kawak wrote:
Even Polititfact doesn't buy that. Truth is truth not determined by where it lands on who's scale.

http://www.politifactbias.com/2017/10/can-you-trust-what-media-biasfact-check.html




OK...you're confusing me... Even though you characterized PolitiFact with the "full of crap" emoji, you seem to trust PolitiFact's assessment of MediaBiasFactCheck...so they are a resource, or only when they publish a statement you agree with?

You obviously believe their opinion about MBFC, so what source do you use to fact check all the examples of Obama's "lies" that you have quoted?
banderl Offline
#549 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:05 PM EST
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Posts: 10,153
“It was 70 years ago that the National Turkey Federation first presented the National Thanksgiving Turkey to President Harry Truman -- who, I might add, did not grant the pardon. He refused. He was a tough cookie. Today, I'm going to be a much nicer President.”

Topic: Miscellaneous

Source: Remarks

Trump repeats a false tale that has been repeatedly debunked over the years. The Truman Library says it has been unable to find any documents that would connect Truman to the tradition of pardoning a turkey. The only record is a turkey provided to the First Family in 1947 for Christmas, not Thanksgiving, by the National Turkey Federation. The first announced "pardon" of a turkey took place under George H.W. Bush in 1989, so the tradition only extends for 28 years.
banderl Offline
#550 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2018, 7:06 PM EST
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“Last year, we lost over $800 billion on trade -- on trade deals with other countries. So we had a negative number, a trade deficit of almost $800 billion with other countries.”
Repeated 6 times
Nov 20, 2017Nov 15Nov 11Apr 2Mar 20Mar 15

Topic: Economy

Source: Remarks

The trade deficit in goods and services in 2016 was $500 billion. Trump often just cites the goods deficit, which was $752 billion, according to the Census Bureau. But trade in services ran a substantial surplus.
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