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HuckFinn Offline
#151 Posted:
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TMCTLT wrote:
I disagree and the further down the PC rat hole we go.....the worst off we'll be. Sugar coating the truth does no one any good.

I disagree: if a old woman wearing much too much makeup, clearly wanting to look pretty, asks me how she looks....I'm gonna sugarcoat.
Or if a kid who is clearly the worst player on his little league team wants the truth, I'm lying.
Examples abound.
Even in politics, sugar-coating, aka diplomacy, is indispensable.



fiddler898 Offline
#152 Posted:
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/01/13/trump-defends-vulgar-remarks-while-partly-denying-them/sUmVJrjCL5d3u30kLOKfyN/story.html

The man - and I use that term loosely - both denies and confirms his remarks simultaneously. Sounds like the Queen of Hearts in Through the Looking Glass.
delta1 Offline
#153 Posted:
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Norway's PM Erna Solberg was deluged with calls and emails from Norwegians upon her return from a visit to the US, where she had a meeting with President Trump at the WH. She called Trump and told him that every Norwegian who contacted her office said, "helvete nei, vi vil ikke gå til det skitne hulllandet, USA!"


I guess they like things better in Norway...
DrafterX Offline
#154 Posted:
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Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
#155 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I disagree: if a old woman wearing much too much makeup, clearly wanting to look pretty, asks me how she looks....I'm gonna sugarcoat.
Or if a kid who is clearly the worst player on his little league team wants the truth, I'm lying.
Examples abound.
Even in politics, sugar-coating, aka diplomacy, is indispensable.






Good for you. When she wants a dance she's gonna come up to you and you'll feel obligated in some sort of awkward guilt.

You'll pass out a trophy to the losing kid on the losing team.

Examples abound.


I didn't start the fire..but it goes on and on and on and on.

LOLZ!!!!
HuckFinn Offline
#156 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Good for you. When she wants a dance she's gonna come up to you and you'll feel obligated in some sort of awkward guilt.

You'll pass out a trophy to the losing kid on the losing team.

Examples abound.


I didn't start the fire..but it goes on and on and on and on.

LOLZ!!!!

I could easily get out of dancing with anyone! Here, watchBoo hoo!
And aw cmon, in the course of any day count how many times you sugarcoat, half-lie and flat out lie. It's the glue that keeps civilizations civil.

Honesty for its own sake sounds great only in principle.

Imagine if you said exactly what you really felt or thought to me instead of what you wrote.
Or I answered with complete honesty.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#157 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I could easily get out of dancing with anyone! Here, watchBoo hoo!
And aw cmon, in the course of any day count how many times you sugarcoat, half-lie and flat out lie. It's the glue that keeps civilizations civil.

Honesty for its own sake sounds great only in principle.

Imagine if you said exactly what you really felt or thought to me instead of what you wrote.
Or I answered with complete honesty.



Whatever lies you have to tell yourself to make yourself above it all..yeah.
HuckFinn Offline
#158 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Whatever lies you have to tell yourself to make yourself above it all..yeah.

Yeah, we're not communicating.
I never lie to myself.
Ok, I rarely lie to myself. Sometimes I'll convince myself I can do things I'm pretty sure I can't do.

Don't know what 'make yourself above it all' even means.
Phil222 Offline
#159 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:

Don't know what 'make yourself above it all' even means.


I think he's talkin bout sparkin a "J"
Speyside Offline
#160 Posted:
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Glossolalia is a phenomenon that periodically occurs here.
DrafterX Offline
#161 Posted:
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Is that some sort of gay-homo slang for somethin..?? Huh
banderl Offline
#162 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Glossolalia is a phenomenon that periodically occurs here.



LMFAO!
It's what happens when Obamacare stops paying for your meds.
DrafterX Offline
#163 Posted:
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You mean Obama lied..?? Huh
banderl Offline
#164 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
You mean Obama lied..?? Huh



No, I mean that the Orange a-hole killed Obamacare and left the crazies without their meds.
DrafterX Offline
#165 Posted:
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All he did was cut the tax Obama placed on people who didn't want health care... Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#166 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
All he did was cut the tax Obama placed on people who didn't want health care... Mellow


Somewhere in Georgetown a rugby team is crying.
DrafterX Offline
#167 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
the Orange a-hole



And this is why I can't take anything you say seriously... You're f'd in da head . Mellow
Abrignac Offline
#168 Posted:
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Spent plenty of time in Haiti back in 80's while on board a Coast Guard cutter. It was a chithole back then and from what I here it still is. Sounds like he called a spade a spade. I'm willing to bet Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc... said worse. But, let Trump say something and it hits the News before he his mouth closes.
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#169 Posted:
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I spent all day yesterday in a chithole. The lid on my septic collapsed and sand was blocking drainfield. Scum layer had consistency of dried out pudding. Had to clear everything out with shovel to get things to flow again and replace lid with old piece of granite. I want my greencard.

Don't ask why I didn't pay someone. Didn't have time to wait. However this is something I don't want to do again.
tailgater Offline
#170 Posted:
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banderl wrote:
No, just an idea for a future forehead tattoo for you.


In reverse so I can read it in the mirror?
Or on the back of my head so you can read it while in the throes of ecstasy?

tailgater Offline
#171 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
To me integrity is acting as if the world is watching you even if they are not. To others it’s ok to act differently behind closed doors and the lack of integrity is on the part of people calling you on it.

There is a value to knowing who you are dealing with.


But what are we talking about?
Whether President Trump said chit-hole?
Or whether it means he's a racist for doing so?

tailgater Offline
#172 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
if Trump never existed, I still would not want a known racist President even if everything worked out.


According to Oprah you'll have to wait until the current generations all die.




teedubbya Offline
#173 Posted:
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Abrig if obama etc. had said worse in a meeting including politicians from both sides we’d know about it and y’all would have droned on and on about it forever in here. The republicans and cbidders weren’t exactly kind and forgiving. Put the media is the problem and trump victim card down.....do not pass go. That’s another deflection. Bammy would have been crucified. Trump is just more uncouth and I know folks in here think bammy is a racist, but Trump is in a class of his own in terms of our contemporary leaders. Ok the R word is verboten. A nationalist. A white one.


Norway has more of what we want in, not Haiti, afrika, or El Salvador. Lol


Come on man.
frankj1 Offline
#174 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
According to Oprah you'll have to wait until the current generations all die.





just the white guys



was I convincing?
teedubbya Offline
#175 Posted:
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Tail I think he is racist for a combination of things over many years and don’t use the term racist lightly. This just fits the pattern and confirms even more what I already thought. I know if you can just separate everything in to vacuums and never connect them you have plausible deny ability. Lance Armstrong lived on that theory successfully for a long time.

But that wasn’t my point. My point is if you are in a conversation with folks from your team as well as the other team, and you say crap like this, and you think the guys from the other team as well as some of your own repeating your words are the bad guys...... you might be Ritchie Incognito
banderl Offline
#176 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
In reverse so I can read it in the mirror?
Or on the back of my head so you can read it while in the throes of ecstasy?




Just shave your head and get it tattooed on top.
delta1 Offline
#177 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
just the white guys



was I convincing?



I believed you...
delta1 Offline
#178 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
In reverse so I can read it in the mirror?
Or on the back of my head so you can read it while in the throes of ecstasy?





banderl wrote:
Just shave your head and get it tattooed on top.



ok, guys....get a room...
Kawak Offline
#179 Posted:
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Paul said on Meet the Press, “I think it’s unfair to sort of paint him, ‘oh well, he’s a racist,’ when I know for a fact that he cares very deeply about the people of Haiti because he helped finance a trip where they would get vision back for 200 people in Haiti.”
frankj1 Offline
#180 Posted:
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I see.
tailgater Offline
#181 Posted:
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Well played.
frankj1 Offline
#182 Posted:
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speak up
Kawak Offline
#183 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I see.


I clearly see what you did there. See what I'm saying? Si?
frankj1 Offline
#184 Posted:
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oui
8trackdisco Offline
#185 Posted:
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If more than 9% of the population of a country has HIV/AIDS, would you consider those countries chitholes?

The top 9 infection rates in the world all are on the dark continent.

Chithole.
banderl Offline
#186 Posted:
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http://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601
8trackdisco Offline
#187 Posted:
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https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/world/poorest-countries-in-the-world
frankj1 Offline
#188 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/world/poorest-countries-in-the-world

so then it's easy to understand why many would like to come here, vs Norway where they'd be taking a step or two backwards.

Who are the people the Statue of Liberty is beckoning?
Speyside Offline
#189 Posted:
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I think Trump would like all immigrants to be oligarchs.
delta1 Offline
#190 Posted:
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One would think that suicide rates would be the highest in the sh*itholiest countries, right? US is not a sh*ithole, and ranks 40th. Among so-called African sh*itholes, only 5 rank above the US, none of which are in the top 20...

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/suicide-rate-by-country/
MACS Offline
#191 Posted:
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I find it hilarious that people get so upset that the president says what many people either think, or have said themselves.

Raise your hand if you haven't called a city, or country, or location a sh*thole.

Exactly. We've all done it. The FACT is... some places are just sh*tholes.
RMAN4443 Offline
#192 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I find it hilarious that people get so upset that the president says what many people either think, or have said themselves.

Raise your hand if you haven't called a city, or country, or location a sh*thole.

Exactly. We've all done it. The FACT is... some places are just sh*tholes.

I grew up in Brockton Massachusetts. .......chitholed'oh!
Phil222 Offline
#193 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Raise your hand if you haven't called a city, or country, or location a sh*thole.


(Starts to raise hand but remembers that he's called many different cities, countries, and locations chitholes in the past)

I don't think that is what most of the outrage is about, but I will refrain from trying to voice the opinions of others.
victor809 Offline
#194 Posted:
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I never said I was outraged by him calling other countries chitholes... I'm outraged by the piss poor logic he demonstrates by whining why more people come from disadvantaged countries than countries with a better standard of living than here. It's simply dumb to expect it to be otherwise.

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#195 Posted:
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Raise your hand if you’ve ever done it in a business meeting or raise your hand if you’ve ever been President or raise your hand if you want your President to act like your crazy drunkin uncle.

But besides that his logic is flawed and I do beleive he is racist, always has been, always will be, and more importantly it reflects in his actions.
HuckFinn Offline
#196 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I find it hilarious that people get so upset that the president says what many people either think, or have said themselves.

Raise your hand if you haven't called a city, or country, or location a sh*thole.

Exactly. We've all done it. The FACT is... some places are just sh*tholes.

Yeah but when i say it my wife tells me to shutup, when Donald says it there are global repercussions. We've insulted millions of people worldwide. Not cool.
Try travelling abroad now.
teedubbya Offline
#197 Posted:
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Well haven’t you ever attended an HOA meeting where you decided to not let folks in because they were usually dark in those areas as well as usual not educated or lacking money while you specifically point out you want more from the white areas?

Forget the chithole part but imagine being in the HOA meeting while the Prez says that. Some in here would be cool with that.
frankj1 Offline
#198 Posted:
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first you attack the press
then you close the borders

then you can emulate the leaders (Putin, Fatty Fat) that you spoke so glowingly of during the campaign
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#199 Posted:
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He was just kiddin... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#200 Posted:
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Enemy of the people
“Insert country here” First

It’s not random.
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