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They're now saying the suspect is in custody.
Many dead...

My heart just stops every time these alerts come across my phone.

it hurts my heart

I don't believe that would stop it. It would only stop the ones who were motivated by fame. The media is just an easy target.

Absolutely on your last sentence. There are many reasons why it happens, one of which can be fame.. But that's not the only reason. People are sick.

I just don't think the media not covering it will stop it, nor do I think it is their fault. We all want an easy solution, I don't think it exists. Media or no media.

I also think the folks with agendas come running like ambulance chasers when these things happen. Pro and anti gun, as well as the blame the press crowd among others.

Ya, my general opinion is what I said before, I don't think there's anything that can be done about it.

I agree, people snap for a variety of reasons, and when you're dealing with 100s of millions of individuals... some are going to snap. It's just the way it is.

You changed my mind after a little thought. Now that it's almost trendy, I doubt it would make much of a difference if the media covered these incidents less.

nauseating

What does one do - in the environment of today - if they've got a son or daughter that they're about to enter into the American educational System? Do you say "nothing i can do, just have to send my kids off for 8 hours a day to an essentially softcore prison and cross my fingers, hoping the school they attend doesn't happen to accidentally breed one of these special kinds of monsters that can do something this horrific?"

To be fair, even though school shootings seem really common, they're actually rare. The school your kid goes to is highly unlikely to be shot up, and furthermore... if the school your kid goes to does get shot up, your kid is unlikely to be one of the victims.

So just like anything else, you can't really live your life and base decisions of something that there's "nothing you can do about it".

The idea that everything needs to be banned for your own good is one of the primary reasons I started leaning more right than left.

Just like every point in history, the vast majority of people are normal (thus the definition of normal), and some are going to be a little sick and twisted (or a lot).

I can assure you, video games do not make kids want to go kill people. Sane people have a firm grip on what's real and what's not, for you to claim otherwise is not rational. Such thinking will have you thinking every kid out there with a Nintendo switch is going to pull a gun on you and shoot you dead. Not only is that not true, but such thinking can be detrimental for your own sanity.

I do agree with your last point though indirectly, I think to give your kids a solid foundation, then communication is a must. I imagine that most people who commit these heinous crimes have a hard time with communication for one reason or another. I would also think it's probable that their parents didn't spend a lot of time trying to communicate with them.

True, I imagine they wouldn't be thinking probabilities. I imagine if it was one of my kids, I wouldn't be thinking probabilities either.

With that said, what I said was not wrong.

Relieved parents like Lisette Rozenblet, whose daughter attends the school, also said she was told that a fire alarm was pulled about the time the shots began. But her daughter's teacher, sensing that it might be a trap, told the students to stay in the classroom, she said.

"Her biggest fear is a school shooting," Rozenblet said of her daughter. "She is always begging me to be home-schooled because she was scared of this."

Joel Leffler, whose son and daughter attend the school, said both of his kids were safe — but in shock.

"My son called me as it was unfolding, running. He had to jump a fence," Leffler said. "My son heard around eight gun shots as he was running out."

When he reached his daughter by phone, she was whispering, he said. "My daughter, who was there in the freshman hall where the shooting took place — she's in shock right now, and she's being taken out by SWAT," Leffler said. "She saw multiple dead bodies."

Did I say ban anything? Nope. I'm just another clueless adult in all this trying to distinguish causes and symptoms. Sure, there will always be some lost souls among peers who, being mentally unstable, do stuff like this. The disconnect among our youth and the weapons available are a particularly deadly combination. Much worse than anything the malcontents i knew grewing up had at their disposal.
Never saw it politicized the way you're framing it but, ok.

You are correct, you didn't say ban violent video games. I mistakenly assumed that's where you were going with it if that was not your intent.

As far as it being politicized, there have been many politicians (usually dems) trying to ban video games.

Hillary Clinton and Dianne Feinstein have both heavily attacked video games, but a dude named Jack Thompson was probably the most infamous (I think he was a disbarred attorney if I remember right).

had little access to the story today.
was the gun(s) used today stolen or taken from his family's home?

Dem dems

I still don't see it as a political issue. Little dems, reps and libs were slaughtered today.
The way i see it, we the living have a choice. We can continue along stupid political party lines here and perpetuate this stupid virtual reality civil war, or we can try to solve at very least, this problem.
Unlike you bgz, I can't accept that there are only two ways forward. 1. Accept that this is just the way it is or 2. A totalitarian state. That's simplistic. Both solutions suk. Both are bs.
We've faced and solved bigger problems in the past. These young kids that died deserve more than that. All school kids do.

Dude, you get bent easy. You realize I was referring to the desire of banning video games, not the school shootings.

Video games are about as related to school shootings as pepperoni pizza. I'm sure about the same percentage of kids partake in each item "libs, dems, etc..." would like to put a sin tax on.

Anyway, you really think there's a viable solution to keeping over 300 million people in check without any of them snapping?

"We've" certainly never solved a problem bigger than that... seriously, you must be high AF if you think it can be done.

All the links I posted support my point that republicans and Democrats alike agree that violent video games are bad for kids. You want to turn this in to something political and, can it be, personal? Laughable. How old are you dude? I think you've been video damaged!
You're right about one single thing, you cant be part of any solution cause you're part of the problem.

You don't have to play violent video games to see with your own eyes that kids are obsessed with them and they're having fun killing virtual people. By your reasoning it's harmless.

So I see your wtf and raise you a gfy

^^^^winner

It is not a coincidence. We leave our people behind and this is typically the mindset now. If you are not a constructive part of society in the US you are left to either one figure it out on your own or die. It "looks like" he figured wrong and others lost their lives because of it.

My wife went and picked up her papers for her delivery this morning. I was reading that this was not the first time for this guy to have violent issues. He evidently was very public about his problems but yet no one stepped in.

My wife is fit to be tied over it she of course is very angry with the guy, me I am angry with him and also very angry with every single person that knew the guy, that is if what I am reading is the facts. My question is why did no one intervene with the obvious signs that he would eventually snap. It's not like he was hiding his wants and desires to hurt mame and kill.

I think this is where we fail, where our government fails, where our states fail, where a lot of our citizens as a whole fail. We are quick to say Meh he be aight then next thing you know kids are hurt and dead all over a school yard. Then we get the stupid question of "OMG why did this happen?" Then comes the"We need to outlaw guns, No maybe if he had jesus, No we should have mailed him a Jehovah Witness pamphlet, No we should have bought him that pony for his 5th birthday"

WTF, It is not just laws, it's not just government, It's not just religion. It's the majority of the people, citizens and Government alike as a whole not taking responsibility for those that can't or won't. Just my .000005

All I can say for sure is I feel for all that had to experience this horror and to the parents of those that we lost. God be with you.


Remember, This could be you, your wife, your child, your whole family shot up or dead at any place not just a school but at the store, at a movie theater while watching Batman, ANYWHERE done by any age person. Not just with a gun but maybe a knife, a ball bat, a car... So stay very aware and safe my brothers and sisters.

You got it DMV. Cant beat ole Frank Z.

I blame Leo DeCapio and the Basket Ball Dairies.... That sparked Columbine and got the ball rolling...

Those sources though. One of them was a blurb without any references, sources, or links to the original article with a forum attached. At least here on cbid we usually post a link to the original article. If you don't realize how trash your sources were, then that makes me question any other opinion you might have because I know you probably got your information from a similar source.




Dude, why do you hate video games? I'm way younger than most on this board, but I can tell you most people my age have played their share of Call of Duty or Battlefield at some point or another. That was like when your parents told your dinosaur azz that the hippy music was going to rot your brain. Maybe it did?



It is harmless. It's the equivalent of shooting some hoops, reading a book, or watching a movie. You should try one some time.

DMV's Frank Zappa post was right on the money. Fix peoples mental health, fix the problems.

Just like television, hippy music, Ozzy, and everything else that came before it... video games do not make people lose their sh17. To believe that they do makes you just as ignorant as those who came before you.



lol, dumb.