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victor809 Offline
#1 Posted:
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.. couldn't get any more disgusting.

"I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon,”

Yeah... cadet bonespurs thinks he would have run anywhere to help someone who isn't him or his children.

If you believe for a second this person who has shown zero interest helping people, has shown zero interest in ever doing anything requiring physical danger, would suddenly decide it's time to start... you're deluding yourself.

It's like this orange moron can't help but make things about himself.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375597-trump-i-would-have-run-into-school-during-shooting-even-without-a-gun
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted:
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after a few steps, he's gonna tap out and say, "dammit, bone spurs kept me from getting there"...but he'll still say how heroic he was for thinking about going in...


DCPD needs a Trump signal, like the batsignal...to call on Trump when a crisis happens...instead of the Bat logo, it'll be a little phallic symbol...
dstieger Offline
#3 Posted:
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pretty sure he'd insist on a huuuuge symbol
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted:
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Pick your battles... Ya, he said it.. it's Trump.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#5 Posted:
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I heard his wig is made out of Kevlar and the terminator was loosely based on his life.
cacman Offline
#6 Posted:
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Doesn't seem far fetched to me, especially considering a football coach did more to save lives than the armed resource officer (and up to 3 more armed officers).
delta1 Offline
#7 Posted:
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yep...the Broward County Sheriff is coming under intense fire because four of their deputies on scene near the start of the incident, when shots were fired and students were being killed, did not enter...

local city PD officers saw them sitting back and called them out...


since Columbine, all PD's have changed their tactics in response to active shooters...PD no longer takes cover and wait for SWAT...

the new SOP is to enter, ideally in a team of three officers (this aspect of the training allows the single resource deputy an out, until two other deputies/other PD arrived on scene), rapidly locate and stop the shooter...training requires a single-minded approach, ignore casualties or other needs...just engage and stop the shooter...hard to imagine that the Broward County Sheriff didn't do that training and adopt that policy/SOP...if so, they are in a heap of trouble and exposed to a big liability loss...
cacman Offline
#8 Posted:
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^^^ So much for the argument "People don't need guns to protect themselves. That's what the police are for."

Should we refer to as the "Coward County Police Department"?
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted:
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There's also questions about a possible 'Stand Down order... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#10 Posted:
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cacman wrote:
Doesn't seem far fetched to me, especially considering a football coach did more to save lives than the armed resource officer (and up to 3 more armed officers).


I have no problem believing anyone did it.

But anyone who starts armchair quarterbacking what "they would of done" in a situation where people are getting shot is questionable. When they're the liar-in-chief and have demonstrated an unwillingness to put their azz on the line for anything, and they're saying they would charge in....

It's pretty disgusting in my mind.

No one knows what they would do. They know what they would like to do, but unless they have been in a similar situation (military, police, bad luck) they simply don't know.

Our orange f%%ktard of a president basically sounds like a fat guy sitting in an armchair yelling at a tv.
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted:
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Odd folks are using the armed folks doing nothing as proof we need more armed folks.
cacman Offline
#12 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Odd folks are using the armed folks doing nothing as proof we need more armed folks.

When it's their J-O-B to protect and serve and they do nothing, it kind of proves the point you can't rely on the guberment to take care of your azz. If the armed officer isn't going to save you, you better arm yourself, or become a victim.
cacman Offline
#13 Posted:
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At least we know Vic would have been cowering behind a wall with the other armed officers, doing nothing.
teedubbya Offline
#14 Posted:
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I’m not defending the police or the government. Far from it.

I’m just glad the football coach did what we think he did. There are so many variables involved that it’s hard to tell if more lives would have been saved or lost had he been armed. Everything from he could have ended it to gone hunting for his gun or the killer instead of getting kids to safety to killing innocents himself.

I just don’t accept the premise that had trump been there or had this guy been armed that tho ha would be better. I’m not even saying they wouldn’t be. Just that stating that it would be is not based on fact.

Trumps favorite song is Kung fu fighting so I have no doubt he’s an American action hero.
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
At least we know Vic would have been cowering behind a wall with the other armed officers, doing nothing.


I'm not egotistical enough to think I know what I would have done in that situation. I leave the empty bravado of idiots with no experience in a situation to people like the president.

Funny, that someone with no knowledge of me would think they know what I would have done in a situation I've never been in. That's like empty bravado squared....

BTW, while we're talking about how the president has acted in other situations where there was an issue....

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-time-donald-trump-turned-away-in-disgust-while-a-man-bled-to-death-in-front-of-him

The title is overly dramatic, I don't think there was ever any evidence the person died... but our heroic president, who would have heroically charged into a hail of bullets to save children, heroically walked away from a bleeding guy as fast as his bone spurs and poor cardio health could let him.

tailgater Offline
#16 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
.. couldn't get any more disgusting.

"I really believe I'd run in there even if I didn't have a weapon,”

Yeah... cadet bonespurs thinks he would have run anywhere to help someone who isn't him or his children.

If you believe for a second this person who has shown zero interest helping people, has shown zero interest in ever doing anything requiring physical danger, would suddenly decide it's time to start... you're deluding yourself.

It's like this orange moron can't help but make things about himself.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375597-trump-i-would-have-run-into-school-during-shooting-even-without-a-gun


You really ruined a good, critical post with that "orange moron" comment.

Makes you sound like a whiny brat who's just angry that Trump got elected. Kinda like bandy, but not that bad.

Even the use of "bonespurs" was well placed. Yet it's impossible to take your post at face value.

Save the childish stuff for posts intended for humor, or when you just want to vent your hatred and frustration.

Or not.
Your call. But you've got a long hill to climb if you plan on displacing bandy as CBid's Most Unstable.
tailgater Offline
#17 Posted:
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Towards the subject at hand:

File this one away with Marky Mark's claim that he'd have bested the terrorists on 9/11 if he was a passenger.

It's ridiculous at best.

It's an embarrassing thing for the POTUS to claim.

Not to mention, I don't believe it for a minute. He'd be hiding behind the cop who was hiding behind the car.

Which is fine. Until you claim otherwise.



victor809 Offline
#18 Posted:
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I refuse to "save my childish stuff"...
The orange moron does moronic self centered things on a daily basis. Just because he does it more often and more f$$ktardy (new adjective!) than any other president doesn't mean I have to ration my disdain, or move the bar at which this disdain is leveled.

Hell... this is coming from a person who decided an athlete was a "POS" for tweeting that he didn't think the president's daughter belongs in the category: "Everybody here has worked so hard to make it to the Olympics and have the opportunity to walk in the closing ceremony!"
cacman Offline
#19 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Funny, that someone with no knowledge of me would think they know what I would have done in a situation I've never been in. That's like empty bravado squared....

You've stated quite clearly a number of times who you would attack and why. Guess it's easier for you to say when you know they are unarmed.

LMAO!

Guess everyone would "feel better" is the Prez had said he would hide behind a wall like the armed officer did, and do nothing?
Love the double-standard!
MACS Offline
#20 Posted:
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Wait... Trump said something stupid and we're surprised?
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
You've stated quite clearly a number of times who you would attack and why. Guess it's easier for you to say when you know they are unarmed.

LMAO!

Guess everyone would "feel better" is the Prez had said he would hid behind a wall like the armed officer did, and did nothing?
Love the double-standard!


No. We would "feel better" if the president acted like an adult.

there was zero reason for him to say what he "believed" he would have done. It was a prepared speech.

He could have said anything.

He chose to say he would have charged in there unarmed to protect those children.
Dude can't even be bothered to go and help a bleeding guy who fell over because he can't stand the sight of blood (this from his own interviews)... and he wants us to believe he's going to be half the man the football coach was.

DrafterX Offline
#22 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Wait... Trump said something stupid and we're surprised?


That was my point... He wants to ban bump-stocks and raise the purchasing age but this gets talked about instead... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#23 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
That was my point... He wants to ban bump-stocks and raise the purchasing age but this gets talked about instead... Mellow


If you didn't want a president who would act like a ridiculous side-show in everything he did... maybe you shouldn't have elected someone who clearly exhibited those traits in the primaries.

This shouldn't be a surprise to you. And blaming people for talking about the stupid sh#t he does is ridiculous
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
You've stated quite clearly a number of times who you would attack and why. Guess it's easier for you to say when you know they are unarmed.

LMAO!

By that logic we can assume that your response to an active shooter situation will be to quickly move to higher elevation and hope they have sickle cell anemia....
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I refuse to "save my childish stuff"...
The orange moron does moronic self centered things on a daily basis. Just because he does it more often and more f$$ktardy (new adjective!) than any other president doesn't mean I have to ration my disdain, or move the bar at which this disdain is leveled.

Hell... this is coming from a person who decided an athlete was a "POS" for tweeting that he didn't think the president's daughter belongs in the category: "Everybody here has worked so hard to make it to the Olympics and have the opportunity to walk in the closing ceremony!"


Too bad for you.
Just don't pee your panties when people don't take you seriously.
Because this was a perfect opportunity to criticize Donald Trump and instead you come across as a drooling dolt.

Perfect opportunity because it's basically non-political. And it speaks to his character, or lack thereof.
It's not hearsay and his words aren't being twisted.
He didn't say "I'd like to think that I'd run in there". He said that he "really believes" he would.

And maybe that's true. (that he believes it)

But you're incapable of having that discussion.
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted:
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Tail... the threat would have been somewhat worthwhile if anything anti-trump were ever taken seriously here before this.

Oh no... I have to worry about people who have never previously taken anything negative about trump seriously, not taking my post seriously? Because I called him an orange moron?

You have to give people something before you can threaten to take it away.
HuckFinn Offline
#27 Posted:
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Donald can run?
Mattie B Offline
#28 Posted:
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I BELIEVE I would run in.

Are you going to mock me or tell me I’m wrong?


Let’s see the outrage for me believing I’d like to help.




The personal hate blinds the weak minded so much they can’t even see/hear the message.


HuckFinn Offline
#29 Posted:
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Mattie B wrote:
I BELIEVE I would run in.

Are you going to mock me or tell me I’m wrong?


Let’s see the outrage for me believing I’d like to help.




The personal hate blinds the weak minded so much they can’t even see/hear the message.



Never said HE didn't believe it.

Just don't think he can run is all.
Speyside Offline
#30 Posted:
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Mattie, I believe you would also. I don't think anyone can be completely sure of what they would do unless they are placed in that situation. I Truely hope none of us ever are. I think president Trump spoke out of turn, gee that's a surprise. His comments were about him, rather inappropriate for the situation. Again, no real suprise. The proof is in the pudding so to speak. We need concise thought out actions. What those actions are I do not know. I am not smart enough to have a good answer. Hopefully someone is, possibly no one is.
Phil222 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Just don't think he can run is all.


He's ALMOST running here...more of a WOG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK1-I9HmSmQ
Mattie B Offline
#32 Posted:
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Spey

I appreciate the confidence.
I agree with you 100%. I hope and pray I never have to find out.

I agree Trumps timing was off, and it’s happened before with him. But I think he really believes what he said. I have no reason to question if it was genuine.

The constant bashing just gets old when I don’t think he said anything inappropriate. It’s very juvenile.

HuckFinn Offline
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Mattie B, here's the thing,
I understood the sentiment when he said that. I personally, based on what I believe his character to be, think it's only wishful thinking on his part but, who knows...?

I wouldn't have given that comment a second thought until he added how disgusting the deputy's nonreponse was. That's where he lost me.
The deputy imo doesn't need to be scapegoated and publically shamed.
There are many reasons the event happened. Why slam this one man.
It's always going to haunt and follow the guy around his entire life either way.
Do we need him to kill himself?

It's the Trumpian-type outburst that bugged me.
Let him without sin.....

... And God knows that ain't Trump
cacman Offline
#34 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
By that logic we can assume that your response to an active shooter situation will be to quickly move to higher elevation and hope they have sickle cell anemia....

Wrong again nut boy.
If I could legally fire, I would have no compunction nor hesitation to do so.
victor809 Offline
#35 Posted:
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Mattie... it was a situation where he could have kept his pursed little mouth shut.

As I said earlier, I think anyone who makes a claim about how they would have done better in a situation like that, is a blowhard. Unless they have been in that sort of situation, I doubt anyone knows. I bet that same cop he's criticizing would have said the same thing he said.

I don't believe anyone's claim they would be the hero in that sort of situation, unless they've been in something similar. Hell, I'd go one further... I have less faith in the sort of person who would make that sort of ridiculous braggartly claim.

It's just one more time the president has shown us that he's not a 10th the man he thinks he is, and isn't half the man your average person is.
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
Wrong again nut boy.
If I could legally fire, I would have no compunction nor hesitation to do so.


I'm just using the same logic you do. Stay safe up there in the high elevation. I know it's scary.

Don't be scared cacman.... hold your binkie tight... the bad men can't get you up there.
MACS Offline
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Mattie... I don't think you're stupid enough to run toward an active shooter unarmed. It isn't brave, it's suicidal.

I think Trump's bravado is ill-timed, and childish. Not surprised by it, though.
victor809 Offline
#38 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Mattie... I don't think you're stupid enough to run toward an active shooter unarmed. It isn't brave, it's suicidal.

I don't see anything wrong with something being suicidal. And something can be both brave and suicidal.

but to claim from the safety of the oval office, and being an overweight blowhard who hasn't been anywhere a limo didn't take him, that he would have been suicidally brave in order to save children.... when trained police officers couldn't do it.... it's just another example of how disgusting he is.

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frankj1 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Mattie... I don't think you're stupid enough to run toward an active shooter unarmed. It isn't brave, it's suicidal.

I think Trump's bravado is ill-timed, and childish. Not surprised by it, though.

how many more times before "not surprised" changes from shrug to enough already?

getting used to it should not be an option.

Be President, you have 3 more years, stop this daily embarrassing crap.


Brewha Offline
#40 Posted:
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The only way he would have rushed into the school is if it had a McDonalds....
Mattie B Offline
#41 Posted:
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MACS
Even though we have never met, I have a ton of respect for you. With your service background and being buddies with 8track, I can’t be wrong in my opinion.

I don’t see it as suicidal. I see it as maybe causing enough pause to allow others to escape. Yeah, I may catch a round....but could I stop a few rounds from flying.....I don’t know.

I can’t say what I’d do and hope to never learn. But I’d like to believe I’d do my best to stop it.
Speyside Offline
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I'm falling into that trap Frank. Trump is unworthy of being president. For me it is just that simple. A president should govern OUR country.
teedubbya Offline
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The worst thing is Trump making it about Trump.
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Tail... the threat would have been somewhat worthwhile if anything anti-trump were ever taken seriously here before this.

Oh no... I have to worry about people who have never previously taken anything negative about trump seriously, not taking my post seriously? Because I called him an orange moron?

You have to give people something before you can threaten to take it away.


Take your blinders off.
tailgater Offline
#45 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
I'm falling into that trap Frank. Trump is unworthy of being president. For me it is just that simple. A president should govern OUR country.


...a president should govern OUR country.

Then let him.
Stop with the unworthy crap.

ZRX1200 Offline
#46 Posted:
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http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/27/flashback-trump-mugger/

Your apology is accepted Victor.
victor809 Offline
#47 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/27/flashback-trump-mugger/

Your apology is accepted Victor.


" and one witness disputed Trump’s account. “A lot of people were surprised that he got out to see what was happening,” Kathleen Romeo, a student at the time, told The Daily News. She claims the man with the bat ran away just before Trump got there. Trump then “just looked around and went back into his limo,” Romeo said."


"Another witness, however, supported Trump’s version. “All of a sudden, a big long limousine pulls up on an angle, and Donald Trump pops out with the blond, too,” an unnamed witness told The Daily News. “There was a guy with a bat, hitting a guy over the head, and Trump yelled, ‘Put that bat down. What are you doing?’ The guy dropped the bat, came over and started talking to him.”"

One named witness who disputes it, another "unnamed witness" who supports it. And you're calling that evidence. No police report, despite a guy getting hit over the head multiple times with a baseball bat. ... I would expect at least a coroners report... you know... multiple hits to the head with a baseball bat (wooden, given the year)...
victor809 Offline
#48 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Take your blinders off.


Put your panties back on
dstieger Offline
#49 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
...a president should govern OUR country.

Then let him.




Gotta agree. I can't stand the man. But until he does something that Congress would impeach him for, I cringe and root for him to be 'successful'...however that may get measured
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#50 Posted:
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I've given this some thought... If I see some homeless guy getting kicked around in street I prolly could keep walking.. maybe.. but if I hear children crying, weapon or not, I think I'd be running towards them... Mellow
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