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Speyside Offline
#51 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 12:39 PM EST
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I'm waiting for him to start.
HuckFinn Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 2:30 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
I'm waiting for him to start.

It's clear to me that he's primarily a CEO. He has zero experience with compromise.

He is simply the wrong man for the job. For a whole host of reasons.

But because he lacks the essential civility, open-mindedness and compromise he is, and we are as a nation, stuck in the mud.

If we gave him free reign to 'lead', I strongly believe we'd be in some very deep chit.
Much worse than mud.
tailgater Offline
#53 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 2:37 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Put your panties back on


Not what you said last night.
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 4:06 PM EST
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Lacks compromise..?? You're not paying attention... Not talking
victor809 Offline
#55 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 4:08 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Lacks compromise..?? You're not paying attention... Not talking


Randomly changing your position on a topic and saying something 180 degrees different from yesterday isn't compromise. It's mental instability.
delta1 Offline
#56 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 4:20 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/27/flashback-trump-mugger/

Your apology is accepted Victor.


and there is this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9ov40Pm3Y


Trump's own words about his inaction during a crisis in his presence...
DrafterX Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 4:39 PM EST
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See, you guys didn't appreciate his offer to up the gun purchase and instead mocked him... Now it's off the table.. nice going... Not talking
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#58 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 4:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
See, you guys didn't appreciate his offer to up the gun purchase and instead mocked him... Now it's off the table.. nice going... Not talking

this is my fault
HuckFinn Offline
#59 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 4:46 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
See, you guys didn't appreciate his offer to up the gun purchase and instead mocked him... Now it's off the table.. nice going... Not talking

Tomorrow's another day...
Speyside Offline
#60 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:09 PM EST
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Drafter, obviously I don't like Trump. But I think he is in the horrible position of not having a good answer, and in this particular situation I feel bad for him. Obama had no answer, W had no answer. Why would Trump miraculously have an answer?
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:18 PM EST
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Well, why don't we just give up..?? Mellow


Trump was making an effort.. lots of Conservatives and the NRA didn't like it... What did the Left do..?? Ignored his efforts and mocked him on the news and latenight TV for a random comment about what he would hope he could do if faced with life and death... But as long as everyone had a good laugh I guess it's ok... We'll just do nothing.. Mellow
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#62 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:35 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Well, why don't we just give up..?? Mellow


Trump was making an effort.. lots of Conservatives and the NRA didn't like it... What did the Left do..?? Ignored his efforts and mocked him on the news and latenight TV for a random comment about what he would hope he could do if faced with life and death... But as long as everyone had a good laugh I guess it's ok... We'll just do nothing.. Mellow


If the idiot had just given his suggestion, no one would have mocked him.

Of course, if history is any example, he had no desire to follow through on his suggestion.

I don't even think I would have wanted him to take away our 2nd amendment rights like that. Sounds like a commie.

But in trumpian fashion, he couldn't pass up a crowd without trying to glorify himself.

If you wanted a president who would make decisions and not distract from them by glorifying himself, you should have voted for one. This wasn't some trait he was hiding from you in the primaries or in the general election
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:40 PM EST
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I voted against Hillary... She lost... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:42 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I voted against Hillary... She lost... Mellow


You voted for a president who turned everything he did or said into a spectacle glorifying himself.... he won.

DrafterX Offline
#65 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:44 PM EST
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Ya... May as well support him... He is our President after all... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#66 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 5:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Ya... May as well support him... He is our President after all... Mellow


I fondly remember you saying that very same thing about obama.....
DrafterX Offline
#67 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 6:30 PM EST
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I only called out his missteps... Mellow



But still no mention about the bump-stocks ban or tougher background checks... Opening mental facilities if possible where needed... The only thing the Left wants is an outright ban... They know it won't happen so nothing will get done... Then they will use it against Republicans come election time... Just like DACA... They don't want Trump to do anything that will gain him support... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#68 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 6:39 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I only called out his missteps... Mellow



What do you think I've been doing?
delta1 Offline
#69 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 6:59 PM EST
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I don't remember one Trump misstep that Drafter called out...anybody?.......hello...........hell----loooooo....................................................................
victor809 Offline
#70 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:04 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I don't remember one Trump misstep that Drafter called out...anybody?.......hello...........hell----loooooo....................................................................


I do...

Just last week he said this:
DrafterX wrote:

I really hate that Trump is so dreamy... His strong chest and manly arms distract me from his wise words and keep me from hearing every nugget of wisdom he doles out. I really hate that about Trump. Dang him!
delta1 Offline
#71 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:22 PM EST
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d'oh!


Not talking


Mad
victor809 Offline
#72 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:29 PM EST
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He totes said it. I think he was touching himself when he did too...
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#73 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:39 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
and there is this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-9ov40Pm3Y


Trump's own words about his inaction during a crisis in his presence...



I can’t get in to youtube right now. Is this the one where he tells Howard stern he can’t handle the sight of blood or the one where he raped his wife?
victor809 Offline
#74 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:42 PM EST
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It's the old guy bleeding on the floor at mar a lago, and trump wanders off somewhere thinking about the marble being ruined.
HuckFinn Offline
#75 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:49 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I voted against Hillary... She lost... Mellow

That's why??

You dirty....
Abrignac Offline
#76 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 7:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
yep...the Broward County Sheriff is coming under intense fire because four of their deputies on scene near the start of the incident, when shots were fired and students were being killed, did not enter...

local city PD officers saw them sitting back and called them out...


since Columbine, all PD's have changed their tactics in response to active shooters...PD no longer takes cover and wait for SWAT...

the new SOP is to enter, ideally in a team of three officers (this aspect of the training allows the single resource deputy an out, until two other deputies/other PD arrived on scene), rapidly locate and stop the shooter...training requires a single-minded approach, ignore casualties or other needs...just engage and stop the shooter...hard to imagine that the Broward County Sheriff didn't do that training and adopt that policy/SOP...if so, they are in a heap of trouble and exposed to a big liability loss...


We were always taught to run towards the shooter......
delta1 Offline
#77 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 8:04 PM EST
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and lone officers were taught to team up with officers from other agencies, because the expectation was that during a mass shooting, officers from all neighboring jurisdictions were coming...

Training was standardized so that there was no confusion between different agencies in a joint response...
Abrignac Offline
#78 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 8:17 PM EST
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Here's my take.

Trump tends to have diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the brain. Do I agree with his vision, yes? Do I wish his vision had a different messenger, sure. But, it is what it is.

Having trained numerous times in active shooter situations, I can comfortably say that anyone running unarmed towards a situation like that has put put their suicide plan into motion. Though noble, the likelihood of dying without saving a single soul is higher than 98.2%.

Should an untrained but armed responder charge forward the shooter will still have an advantage because they'll shoot in any direction whereas the Samaritan will likely try to avoid shedding innocent blood.

We can whatif it until Victor professes love for Trump, but at the end of the day the officer(s) failed to perform their duties regardless of the outcome.
Abrignac Offline
#79 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 8:20 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
and lone officers were taught to team up with officers from other agencies, because the expectation was that during a mass shooting, officers from all neighboring jurisdictions were coming...

Training was standardized so that there was no confusion between different agencies in a joint response...


True, but not to wait around outside until others arrived. IMHO he failed the students and faculty, their families, the community and his agency.
ZRX1200 Offline
#80 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 9:23 PM EST
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fort-lauderdale-hollywood-airport-shooting/fl-airport-shooting-draft-reports-20170602-story.html


So Israel says they may never release audio of the school shooting.......they still haven't released the airport audio.

Read the article, focus on his quotes.
tailgater Offline
#81 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 9:47 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Drafter, obviously I don't like Trump. But I think he is in the horrible position of not having a good answer, and in this particular situation I feel bad for him. Obama had no answer, W had no answer. Why would Trump miraculously have an answer?


If he could just be everywhere, then he could rush in when something happens.
Even unarmed.
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted: Tue, Feb 27 2018, 9:48 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
You voted for a president who turned everything he did or said into a spectacle glorifying himself.... he won.



True.
He certainly is our very first President with an ego...
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#83 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 6:49 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Mattie... it was a situation where he could have kept his pursed little mouth shut.

As I said earlier, I think anyone who makes a claim about how they would have done better in a situation like that, is a blowhard. Unless they have been in that sort of situation, I doubt anyone knows. I bet that same cop he's criticizing would have said the same thing he said.

I don't believe anyone's claim they would be the hero in that sort of situation, unless they've been in something similar. Hell, I'd go one further... I have less faith in the sort of person who would make that sort of ridiculous braggartly claim.

It's just one more time the president has shown us that he's not a 10th the man he thinks he is, and isn't half the man your average person is.



TDS ALERT

I'm lmao at this. If only you lived by your own words from post to post to post. You can't help yourself any longer. It's only a matter of when you snap. You really are delusional and unimportant.
Cathcam13 Offline
#84 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 6:54 AM EST
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Alright, rather than bashing the guy, because that’s easy, what has he done to help the every day American?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#85 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 6:56 AM EST
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Cathcam13 wrote:
Alright, rather than bashing the guy, because that’s easy, what has he done to help the every day American?



Does kicking hobos count?

Yea...i didn't think so either.
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#86 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:02 AM EST
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Gives me stuff to laugh at on the Twitter? Sorry brother its all I got Anxious
Cathcam13 Offline
#87 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:04 AM EST
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Lmao, one thing he did do that saved a good deal of jobs here in the Pacific Northwest was shoot down the TPP. Other than that I can’t really say anything good or bad about him. I figure time will tell.
Ewok126 Offline
#88 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:06 AM EST
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Time Always tells for sure.
Cathcam13 Offline
#89 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:08 AM EST
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At least comedians have someone new to make fun of for at least another 3 years.....
Cathcam13 Offline
#90 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:09 AM EST
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Especially that hair.....
Ewok126 Offline
#91 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:10 AM EST
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Cathcam13 wrote:
At least comedians have someone new to make fun of for at least another 3 years.....


True True, I am already excited to see how the next election goes. I just hope I make it that long to see.
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#92 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 7:40 AM EST
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I didn't vote for him the 1st time.


Based on the liberal loons posting here I'm confirmed he was the right choice over her.

I'll most likely vote for him for a 2nd term.

The louder and more enraged they become with their TDS...the more I am to support him.


Ps...I love the tax cut too!
Speyside Offline
#93 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 8:46 AM EST
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That's certainly a unique way to choose who you vote for.
victor809 Offline
#94 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 12:30 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
TDS ALERT

I'm lmao at this. If only you lived by your own words from post to post to post. You can't help yourself any longer. It's only a matter of when you snap. You really are delusional and unimportant.


And you're short, fat, disheveled and unimportant... what's your point?
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#95 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 12:38 PM EST
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DMV I agree
victor809 Offline
#96 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 12:47 PM EST
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I didn't vote for him the 1st time.


Based on the liberal loons posting here I'm confirmed he was the right choice over her.

I'll most likely vote for him for a 2nd term.

The louder and more enraged they become with their TDS...the more I am to support him.


Ps...I love the tax cut too!


This is funny... because dmv thinks he's being clever by saying things like this.. but it's been studied. It's clear cut tribalism.
They have shown that when given the most random and completely meaningless designation, humans will immediately differentiate into "us vs them".... the "them" may simply be a group of people who estimated over the number of dots on a page rather than under... but they suddenly become a "them".

Look at how dmv identifies the "them" in his post... "liberal loons"... half the people who dislike trump wouldn't classify as liberals, however our subject here has chosen to classify everyone he's against in the same bucket.

Further studies have shown that people's tribalism is so dysfunctional that when they are given disbursement tasks (ie, you must disburse these 10$ between your group and "them") people would rather get less, if it means they can ensure that the "them" group is hurt (ie, if given a choice of disbursing $5 to each group, or only getting 4$ for their group but ensuring the "them" only gets $3, they would rather only get 4$)

This can be clearly demonstrated by the subject here... dmv would gladly vote for trump on a second term, strictly because of the suffering he believes will be afflicted on the "them" group. Even if there is a better candidate.

textbook...

and also why our country will continue to go downhill.
cacman Offline
#97 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 1:03 PM EST
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The incessant whining is worse than watching CNN.
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#98 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 1:11 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
This is funny... because dmv thinks he's being clever by saying things like this.. but it's been studied. It's clear cut tribalism.
They have shown that when given the most random and completely meaningless designation, humans will immediately differentiate into "us vs them".... the "them" may simply be a group of people who estimated over the number of dots on a page rather than under... but they suddenly become a "them".

Look at how dmv identifies the "them" in his post... "liberal loons"... half the people who dislike trump wouldn't classify as liberals, however our subject here has chosen to classify everyone he's against in the same bucket.

Further studies have shown that people's tribalism is so dysfunctional that when they are given disbursement tasks (ie, you must disburse these 10$ between your group and "them") people would rather get less, if it means they can ensure that the "them" group is hurt (ie, if given a choice of disbursing $5 to each group, or only getting 4$ for their group but ensuring the "them" only gets $3, they would rather only get 4$)

This can be clearly demonstrated by the subject here... dmv would gladly vote for trump on a second term, strictly because of the suffering he believes will be afflicted on the "them" group. Even if there is a better candidate.

textbook...

and also why our country will continue to go downhill.


you're right about one thing: This is funny.
It's like you responded to a different post.
DMV didn't call everyone who dislikes Trump a liberal loon. He simply made reference to the liberal loons who post here.
Further, DMV provided one reason he would support Trump in the future. He didn't say this decision was based solely on this single point. He merely offered one up because it was relevant to his post.

You sure do read a lot into what other people say and then try to twist it to make some obscure point that doesn't even fit the conversation.

And the best part?
It doesn't matter if your accusations are true or false. Just by jumping to your own conclusions proves that you're either not thinking straight or couldn't comprehend what he said.
We all know you're the smart one here, so it must be the former.
Which indicates ATDS.
That's Acute Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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#99 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 1:18 PM EST
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How many people do you think post in cbid would classify in the real world as "liberal loons" tail? Provide a hard number.

Our little dmv troll even clarified "The louder and more enraged they become with their TDS...the more I am to support him"... indicating his support is based on what he perceives to be suffering of the group he has identified as "them"

but you'll .try to fit this into your "TDS" philosophy. The difference is what I'm pointing out is an actual study. You've just got your little fantasy.
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#100 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 1:25 PM EST
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Trump should "Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt". fog
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