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Manifesto of El Paso Shooter Patrick Crusius

The Inconvenient Truth
About Me
In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the
Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from
cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is
hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native
Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the
invasion of Europeans seriously, and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this
attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The
Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political and economic reasons behind the attack, my
gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.
Political Reasons
In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly
impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, have been
failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the
American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked
corporations. I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here
is what is important. Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of
the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The
Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by
pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open
borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship and more to enact a political coup by importing and then
legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely
become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a
Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the
Democrats is all it would take for them to win nearly every presidential election. Although the
Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Pro-
corporation = pro-immigration. But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize
corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration
while the Republicans are divided over it. At least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration
and citizenship can be greatly reduced.
Economic Reasons
In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will
make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. Some sources say that in under
two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most
will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the
United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to the
highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic
universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness initself is a source of civil unrest. The less dependents on a government welfare system, the better. The
lower the unemployment rate, the better. Achieving ambitions social projects like universal healthcare
and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed.
Even though new migrants do the dirty work, their kids typically don’t. They want to live the American
Dream which is why they get college degrees and fill higher-paying skilled positions. This is why
corporations lobby for even more illegal immigration even after decades of it of happening. They need
to keep replenishing the low-skilled labor pool. Even as migrant children flood skilled jobs, Corporations
make this worse by lobbying for even more work visas to be issued for skilled foreign workers to come
here. Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of
foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support
immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and
unskilled jobs to keep wages down. So Automation is a good thing as it will eliminate the need for new
migrants to fill unskilled jobs. Jobs that Americans can’t survive on anyway. Automation can and would
replace millions of low-skilled jobs if immigrants were deported. This source of competition for skilled
labor from immigrants and visa holders around the world has made a very difficult situation even worse
for natives as they compete in the skilled job market. To compete, people have to get better credentials
by spending more time in college. It used to be that a high school degree was worth something. Now a
bachelor’s degree is what’s recommended to be competitive in the job market. The cost of college
degrees has exploded as their value has plummeted. This has led to a generation of indebted,
overqualified students filling menial, low paying and unfulfilling jobs. Of course these migrants and their
children have contributed to the problem, but are not the sole cause of it.
The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is
destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive
burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by
shamelessly overharvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this
phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the
country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming
and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste
and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates
inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how
many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my
short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if
the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues
beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration
because more people means a bigger market for their products. I just want to say that I love the people
of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next
logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough
people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.
Gear
Main gun: AK47 (WASR 10) – I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian
version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about 100
shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this.

8m3 bullet: This bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62x39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol
hollow point when shot out of an ak47 at the cost of penetration. Penetration is still reasonable, but not
nearly as high as a normal ak47 bullet. The ak47 is definitely a bad choice without this bullet design, and
may still be with it.
Other gun(if I get one): Ar15 – Pretty much any variation of this gun doesn’t heat up nearly as fast as the
AK47. The round of this gun isn’t designed to fragment, but instead tumbles inside a target causing
lethal wounding. This gun is probably better, but I wanted to explore different options. The ar15 is
probably the best gun for military applications but this isn’t a military application.
This will be a test of which is more lethal, either it’s fragmentation or tumbling.
I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this
before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no
attack and no manifesto
Reaction
Statistically, millions of migrants have returned to their home countries to reunite with the family they
lost contact with when they moved to America. They come here as economic immigrants, not for asylum
reasons. This is an encouraging sign that the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home
countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will
provide. This will remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc which will make up for the loss of
millions of baby boomers. This will also make the elites that run corporations realize that it’s not in their
interest to continue piss off Americans. Corporate America doesn’t need to be destroyed, but just
shown that they are on the wrong side of history. That if they don’t bend, they will break.
Personal Reasons and Thoughts
My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist. The job of my dreams will
likely be automated. Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas,
changing policy to better suit their needs. They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup
which will hasten the destruction of our country. The environment is getting worse by the year. If you
take nothing else from this document, remember this: INACTION IS A CHOICE. I can no longer bear the
shame of inaction knowing that our founding fathers have endowed me with the rights needed to save
our country from the brink destruction. Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to
repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country. They have no choice but to sit by and watch
their countries burn.
America can only be destroyed from the inside-out. If our country falls, it will be the fault of traitors. This
is why I see my actions as faultless. Because this isn’t an act of imperialism but an act of preservation.
America is full of hypocrites who will blast my actions as the sole result of racism and hatred of other
countries, despite the extensive evidence of all the problems these invaders cause and will cause.
People who are hypocrites because they support imperialistic wars that have caused the loss of tens of
thousands of American lives and untold numbers of civilian lives. The argument that mass murder is
okay when it is state sanctioned is absurd. Our government has killed a whole lot more people for a
whole lot less.

Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow
Americans. Even the Americans that seem hell-bent on destroying our country. Even if they are
shameless race mixers, massive polluters, haters of our collective values, etc. One day they will see error
of their ways. Either when American patriots fail to reform our country and it collapses or when we save
it. But they will see the error of their ways. I promise y’all that.
I am against race mixing because it destroys genetic diversity and creates identity problems. Also
because it’s completely unnecessary and selfish. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics form interracial unions
at much higher rates than average. Yet another reason to send them back. Cultural and racial diversity is
largely temporary. Cultural diversity diminishes as stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake
weaker and/or undesirable ones. Racial diversity will disappear as either race mixing or genocide will
take place. But the idea of deporting or murdering all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been
here at least as long as the whites, and have done as much to build our country. The best solution to this
for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each
race. This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting
each race self-determination within their respective territory(s).
My death is likely inevitable. If I’m not killed by the police, then I’ll probably be gunned down by one of
the invaders. Capture in this case if far worse than dying during the shooting because I’ll get the death
penalty anyway. Worse still is that I would live knowing that my family despises me. This is why I’m not
going to surrender even if I run out of ammo. If I’m captured, it will be because I was subdued somehow.
Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfill
your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security
guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers. Do not throw away your life
on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day.
My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest
predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the
President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media
will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous
for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.
Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just
the beginning of the fight for America and Europe. I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country
from destruction.
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WTF?
If I start reading this will I be able to complete it by dinner time?
deadeyedick Offline
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Anybody who chooses to read this will have to agree with some (many) of his thoughts no matter if you are left, center or right politically and ideologically. These are frustrations of millions of people worldwide.

The only difference is how we choose to respond.
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Dudes a white nationalist. Hates "race mixers" and Hispanics.
Then at the end he's worried the media will paint him as a white supremacist.

Certainly a very fine person.
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victor809 wrote:
Dudes a white nationalist. Hates "race mixers" and Hispanics.
Then at the end he's worried the media will paint him as a white supremacist.

Certainly a very fine person.

you didn't read most of it... and if you did read it then your reading comprehension is worse than tails...
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separating the races to save America because he only wants the best for all...

ooooh kaaaay.
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and why wasn't he shot by a store patron?
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frankj1 wrote:
separating the races to save America because he only wants the best for all...

ooooh kaaaay.

not exactly the well-thought out ramblings of a scholar...
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frankj1 wrote:
and why wasn't he shot by a store patron?

if I had to guess? It's a fairly poor area from what I understand and probably not as many armed patrons as would be normal in other areas of texas...

the WalMart was also considered to be "at capacity" at the time of the shooting... imagine a walmart holding as many people as it can possibly hold, identifying a suspect in that crowd, and then safely shooting that suspect through that crowd...
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victor809 wrote:
Dudes a white nationalist. Hates "race mixers" and Hispanics.
Then at the end he's worried the media will paint him as a white supremacist.

Certainly a very fine person.


Yes, he certainly is a white nationalist and racist as well as a murderer of innocent people. You could also say he is an environmentalist, someone concerned with the influence of large corporations on our government, our political leadership and concerned with our economic situation and the future of America in general.

Many of us are some of those things also.
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Opel... I didn't read the whole thing. Don't need to to see he's a white nationalist... He literally says white nationalist sh*t. I stopped reading at that point because... Well... I honestly don't care what the rest of his dumb thoughts are.

Ded...the rest is irrelevant. One doesn't go on a killing spree in a Walmart in El Paso because they are an environmentalist or are concerned about the political leadership (not sure how concerned he was, hes a trump supporter... So.... That's not a lot of concern).
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oddly enough, the manifesto actualy predicts tools like you...
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victor809 wrote:
Opel... I didn't read the whole thing. Don't need to to see he's a white nationalist... He literally says white nationalist sh*t. I stopped reading at that point because... Well... I honestly don't care what the rest of his dumb thoughts are.

Ded...the rest is irrelevant. One doesn't go on a killing spree in a Walmart in El Paso because they are an environmentalist or are concerned about the political leadership (not sure how concerned he was, hes a trump supporter... So.... That's not a lot of concern).


If you don't mind we all can decide for ourself what is relevant.
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“I’m not really motivated to do anything more than what’s necessary to get by. Working in general sucks, but I guess a career in Software Development suits me well. I spend about 8 hours every day on the computer so that counts toward technology experience I guess. Pretty much just gonna see what technology careers present themselves to me; go with the wind.”
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Opel... Predicting people are going to call you a white supremacist for saying white supremacist sh$t isn't exactly rocket science.

Predicting people will blame trump when he says the exact same things as trump isn't rocket science.

He can claim he had these thoughts before trumpenfurher... And I believe him. But there has been an uptick in these things... And it may not be trump. I've said before he's a symptom, not the root cause. He's the figurehead of the white nationalist, not the driving force.
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Ded... You can decide what you believe is relevant. But you probably should support it with logic...
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Yes he wants you to read his drivel and give it merit. White nationalist doesn’t mean nothing else and the everything else doesn’t absolve or dilute white nationalists.

I love when he talks about his message mirroring trumps but he had his first so dont blame trump.

Don’t give this nutbag too much credit. He’s belligerent. His ramblings are an ink blot tests.

Maybe be we should expect our leaders of either party to be more careful with their words, have some decency, and have a meaningful dialog on mass shootings and what can be done. One way or another this darkness got to give.

While they are at it both sides should get serious on out border control/immigration, the deficit, etc. neither side is. If you think trump is serious about fixing boarder issues wake up. No one is. They are just leveraging it and using you.

Let’s stop rewarding the cutsie crap and get real. We need to quit digging the fox holes and accepting all the garbage our guy does because he’s not their guy. Let’s start thinking.
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victor809 wrote:
Ded... You can decide what you believe is relevant. But you probably should support it with logic...

You should take your own advice...

In this case, the person who carried out the attack explained his motivations - nearly all of which contradict the stances of white supremacists, conservatives, and Donald trump...
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Opel... "Nearly all of which contradict the stances of ..." Prove it. Identify them
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When did you stop beating your wife Victor?

I’m glad you always pick half truth then judge others, it’s so.....Victor of you
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But the idea of deporting or murdering all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been
here at least as long as the whites, and have done as much to build our country.
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Hey look, he agrees with you Victor...

most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next
logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough
people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Maybe he was inspired by your posts here Victor...
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I dunno. I watched the press conference. It seemed to me they identified him as a white supremacist who targeted Hispanics and are treating it as domestic terrorism. I’m not sure why anyone would try to distance him from the white nationalists. I don’t care if he also liked flowers and long walks on the beach.
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It’s still early but white nationalists are real. They do exist. Much of their language has crept in to the mainstream over the past few years. Some folks using some of the similar language are not white nationalists. But it should be somewhat uncomfortable to them assuming they are decent. We need to reassess where we stand as individuals. Not discount words as words but really examine the Venn diagram of our thoughts and whose they overlap with.
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In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the
Hispanic invasion of Texas.

They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from
cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion

Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The
Great Replacement.

This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting
each race self-determination within their respective territory(s).

Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to
repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country

You've got to find a lot more quotes to be able to say "nearly all"




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teedubbya wrote:
I dunno. I watched the press conference. It seemed to me they identified him as a white supremacist who targeted Hispanics and are treating it as domestic terrorism. I’m not sure why anyone would try to distance him from the white nationalists. I don’t care if he also liked flowers and long walks on the beach.

What you refer to as an attempt to distance the suspect from white nationalists is actually an attempt to identify the truth instead of accepting any narrative provided by the media simply because the person in questioned is obviously an evil person...
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teedubbya wrote:
Not discount words as words but really examine the Venn diagram of our thoughts and whose they overlap with.

Have fun tumbling down that slippery slope... I hear child molesters drink water and breathe air and like cartoons...
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.... Then you're putting together a pretty sh&try Venn diagram Opel...
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.... Then you're putting together a pretty sh&try Venn diagram Opel...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
What you refer to as an attempt to distance the suspect from white nationalists is actually an attempt to identify the truth instead of accepting any narrative provided by the media simply because the person in questioned is obviously an evil person...



I was going by the press conference ie what the investigators say directly. The blame the press deflection doesn’t play.

And it’s still early. Let’s see what the investigation comes up with. Not the press. That’s a lame argument.
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he is a murderous coward who killed and hurt a lot of innocent people...I have no interest in reading his thoughts, anymore than I wanted to read Manson's crap...I'll leave that to the investigators searching for a motive, and the lookeyloos...


one can find eloquence in the writings of many of the worst killers in human history (Genghis Khan, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler were considered genii), but at the end of the day, they were soulless killers...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Have fun tumbling down that slippery slope... I hear child molesters drink water and breathe air and like cartoons...



Absolutely absurd and a way to deflect from giving any serious though. I expected better. I honestly don’t get why the deflection from you of all people

If the guys a white nationalists nut targeting browns he simply is. We’ll find out more but touse the brainwashed by press defense combined with I like olives is weird. What’s going on here? What am I missing. I’m usually the open minded fencepost that pisses folks off. What’s the sensitivity here?
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you think opel is writing a manifesto?
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All I can think of is trump supporters are sensitive to being associated with white supremacy. But rather than examine that (true or false) it’s important to paint this guy as not a white supremesist?

And to be clear it’s early. Maybe he did it because he likes cheese. We will find out. But this space is getting strange.
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delta1 wrote:
you think opel is writing a manifesto?



Nah. I am curious though what’s driving his thoughts because I respect him. The pat misdirection crap isn’t his MO.
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It’s like watching Kanye trying to figure out why he’s a gay fish
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teedubbya wrote:
Nah. I am curious though what’s driving his thoughts because I respect him. The pat misdirection crap isn’t his MO.


I read his posts about "30 days of hogwash"...he seems OK.... like old opel there...
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Lol. I tend to listen pretty closely when Opel and I disagree because he’s been able to change my mind on some things and I respect him. I’m not trying to bag on him here, and am legitimately interested in what he is trying to say and more importantly why. I respect him.

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Everyone should be treated as an individual unless they specifically designate themselves as belonging to a group. I think that’s what he’s trying to get across to you retards
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Is white nationalist a group or a description of specific beliefs?
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So if this dude is a white nationalist who targeted browns we shouldn’t hurt his feelings by calling him that or is it more about his dues may not be current?
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If there's one thing I've learned from cbid is that racists really get their feefees hurt when you talk about racism and white nationalism.

For a group that likes to be identified as "proud" they really don't have much pride in their identity.
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And again I accept it’s fresh and new info may emerge. Thus slow down to draw conclusions.

I doubt given what I know he’s an environmentalist who is just trying to save the planet (unless somehow the browns are ruining it) but we will see. He seems to have made it clear he was targeting Mexicans because his country has been overrun.

I do think the words and actions of our leaders matter no matter of and perhaps even specifically based on the medium used. It’s not too much to want decency and recognize a lack of contributes to this crap.
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Contributing is very different than sole cause. The latter provides another out to not think.
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By the way there was a rush to blame white nationalism for the Gilroy murders. And it looks like that was wrong. That was the press not the investigators.

If the point is simply to slow down I get that and agree. If that’s the case our words are just crossing.
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OK.

Everyone should be treated as an individual unless they specifically designate themselves as belonging to a group.
OR - if it fits your alarmist purposes

Sorry
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So you can’t be a white nationalist unless you specifically say you are?. Even if all or most of your words and actions say otherwise.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

Nope don’t buy it. I don’t buy it the other way either when it morphs into anti bullying pc crap.

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I’m proud that my post number is stuck at 1776. Maybe that makes me a nationalist. And I am white. So I guess that makes me a Nazi.

Or maybe I’m just a patriotic fella...
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If you say so. I like olives.
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