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Palama Offline
#151 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 4:47 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
Considering I've did transactions with like 5-6 members on here within the last 2 months something obviously went wrong for me to go dark. I did communicate my absence. Like I said, pessimism runs deep in here.


Unfortunately there have been box passes that have been claimed to be lost or worst yet, outright stolen so the pessimistic view was not totally unwarranted. Although it's a running joke with the Wombat, the fact that it has happened before keeps the older members on their guard when even a hint of a lost / stolen pass gets sniffed.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone thought you ran off with the pass, instead, I think we feared something bad mighta happened to you. Well, okay, 98.2% of us never thought you ran off.... At any rate, glad you're back and looking forward to seeing what your Takes and Puts are.
delta1 Offline
#152 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 5:00 PM EST
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Applause Applause Applause



Big Hug



Popcorn
clintCigar Offline
#153 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 6:59 PM EST
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Cigarlady7 wrote:
Clint,

Yeah, it was a decent pass. Smoked the Ashton last night. It was my first or second Ashton ( can't recall if I had before), but I wasn't as excited about it as I thought I would be. It is a great cigar, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't jump buy more. The others are resting... Waiting to take those on my trip to Paris end of year.

Did you receive the box today yet?


Yes I got the coveted box! LOL. Will be going through them shortly.
USPS was a little rough on this box but all looks OK.
Cigarlady7 Offline
#154 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 7:31 PM EST
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Damn shenanigans. I put enough "Fragile" warnings on it for them to notice...
KingoftheCove Offline
#155 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 9:19 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
Don't talk chit unless you know all the facts.

I’m not talking chit, and don’t need to know all the facts.
None of the 5 or 6 people you have traded with jumped up and did a complete vouch for you either as far as I could tell, and, Stinger had a brain fart...........which muddled the waters a bit.

My advice has nothing to do with YOU at all.

We all know what has happened all too often here and on other sites/forums, and when certain “things”, like say, lack of communication, start popping up, a red flag goes up.

It’s simply the safe play.
Don’t take it personal.
clintCigar Offline
#156 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 9:21 PM EST
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Proposed takes/puts:

Takes:

LFD TAA 2016
Opus X Lost City Robusto 2016
Arturo Fuente Between the Lines
Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchill
Davidoff The Late Hour


Puts:

H. Upman Mag 46 2016 (CC)
Por Larranaga Picadores 2015 (CC)
Romeo y Julieta Cazadores 2017 (CC)
Davidoff 702 Special R
Stolen Throne Crook of the Crown Toro
stinger88 Offline
#157 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 10:21 PM EST
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Clint,

Looking at the proposed takes/puts.

I think the LFD and the Stolen Crown are similar.
Davidoff are about the same
And then one of your CCs for the RyJ.

I don’t see the other two CCs in the league of the Opus or the BTL.

David
clintCigar Offline
#158 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 11:02 PM EST
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stinger88 wrote:
Clint,

Looking at the proposed takes/puts.

I think the LFD and the Stolen Crown are similar.
Davidoff are about the same
And then one of your CCs for the RyJ.

I don’t see the other two CCs in the league of the Opus or the BTL.

David


What if I throw in a Viaje C4?
stinger88 Offline
#159 Posted: Tue, Sep 3 2019, 11:24 PM EST
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Clint, PM sent.
Palama Offline
#160 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 12:04 AM EST
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Maybe this should be renamed the “Let’s Make a Deal for Decent Cigars Box Pass”? Think
clintCigar Offline
#161 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 12:10 AM EST
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Palama wrote:
Maybe this should be renamed the “Let’s Make a Deal for Decent Cigars Box Pass”? Think

Applause
kombat96 Offline
#162 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 1:58 AM EST
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It's not quality taken quantity given.
Palama Offline
#163 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 2:27 AM EST
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kombat96 wrote:
It's not quality taken quantity given.


Applause
clintCigar Offline
#164 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 10:01 AM EST
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Proposal 2:

Takes:

LFD TAA 2016
Opus X Lost City Robusto 2016
Arturo Fuente Between the Lines
Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchill
Davidoff The Late Hour


Puts:

Romeo y Julieta Cazadores 2017 (CC)
Davidoff 702 Special R
Stolen Throne Crook of the Crown Toro
Ashton ESG 23-Yr Salute
Dunbarton Sin Compromiso
stinger88 Offline
#165 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 11:17 AM EST
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Peanut gallery. Please chime in with opinions.
dstieger Offline
#166 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 11:35 AM EST
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stinger88 wrote:
Peanut gallery. Please chime in with opinions.


-Noobs and dinks suck
-Most Dunbaton blends disappoint
as do most Tat LR's in past 7-8 years...poor Pete
-Smoke LP's while they're young
-Sunscreen is awesome
-Davidoff gets away with crazy chit...like Oro Blanco
-Smoke your unicorns .... I have a habit of saving them...I suspect my widow's next husband is going to come into some incredible cigars...
Palama Offline
#167 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 3:25 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
Proposal 2:

Takes:

LFD TAA 2016
Opus X Lost City Robusto 2016
Arturo Fuente Between the Lines
Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchill
Davidoff The Late Hour


Puts:

Romeo y Julieta Cazadores 2017 (CC)
Davidoff 702 Special R
Stolen Throne Crook of the Crown Toro
Ashton ESG 23-Yr Salute
Dunbarton Sin Compromiso


Although I’m no expert on cigars, the Dunbarton is readily available and in my untrained eye, not an “Elite” or even “Super Premium”. They may be marketed as “Limited Edition” but I can buy some right now. Even with the rather high sell prices, I don’t see it equal (...or better...) to either the Opus X or the BTL...but that’s just my 2 cents.
clintCigar Offline
#168 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 3:27 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Although I’m no expert on cigars, the Dunbarton is readily available and in my untrained eye, not an “Elite” or even “Super Premium”. They may be marketed as “Limited Edition” but I can buy some right now. Even with the rather high sell prices, I don’t see it equal (...or better...) to either the Opus X or the BTL...but that’s just my 2 cents.


I can get both the Opus X and AF BTL right now. So whats the difference?
dstieger Offline
#169 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 3:33 PM EST
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serious question?
Palama Offline
#170 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 4:07 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
I can get both the Opus X and AF BTL right now. So whats the difference?


Maybe it’s a matter of perception and a little bit of real world experience.

If you put the three cigars side-by-side and ask a cigar smoker to pick any one, odds are he or she would pick one of the Fuentes instead of the DTT. For those that know a little about cigars, they recognize Fuentes as a top tier brand. Dunbarton, not even close...at least in the eyes of the cigar smoking public. And I’m not saying that Dunbarton doesn’t make good smokes, I’m talking about the value aura each brand exudes.

Okay, so that’s the perception part.

In my real life experience of going to Fuente and Dunbarton smokers, the Opus X cigars sell out. Fast. Every time. In fact, if you’re not in the first 10 or 20 (...out of 100-120 in attendance...) standing in line to buy, your chances of getting one are slim and none. I’ve been to about 5 of them and BTLs were never available for sale...but I’d bet money that they would sell out fast too. At the Dunbarton event earlier this year, with about 50 in attendance, there were boxes and boxes of Sin Compromisos left at the end. Again, not saying that the SCs aren’t good, possibly even great smokes, I’m saying that in my eyes, they’re not considered elite or even a notch below.

Btw, PM me the places where you can buy OX and BTL without getting gouged. All of the more well-known, trusted sites are out of stock while the one place that I found some BTL wanted $720 for a box, $32 for a single. Sure, I could take out my American Express card and buy some but in reality, not at those ridiculous prices...would you?
clintCigar Offline
#171 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 4:50 PM EST
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No worries. I went ahead and purchased a few of the Opus X Lost City and AF BTL so we can move this ELITE train on along. My final takes/puts are as follows:

Takes:

LFD TAA 2016
Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchill
Davidoff The Late Hour


Puts:

Romeo y Julieta Cazadores 2017 (CC)
Davidoff 702 Special R
Stolen Throne Crook of the Crown Toro


All approved by David. I will send out to the next person tomorrow.

Oh and the Sin Compromiso is an excellent cigar IMO. U should buy some.
Herfing
stinger88 Offline
#172 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 4:55 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
Proposal 2:

Takes:

LFD TAA 2016
Opus X Lost City Robusto 2016
Arturo Fuente Between the Lines
Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchill
Davidoff The Late Hour


Puts:

Romeo y Julieta Cazadores 2017 (CC)
Davidoff 702 Special R
Stolen Throne Crook of the Crown Toro
Ashton ESG 23-Yr Salute
Dunbarton Sin Compromiso


In my humble opinion.....if I had all 10 of these cigars in front of me and was asked to pick a top three, I would pick the Opus, the BTL, and then a toss up between the LFD and the Dunbarton (because I have never had this one before). So, when I do a box pass like this, at the elitist level, I select the ones that I wish to take, match them with my proposed puts and then do a couple things. I do a thorough search on what I want to take. Not just for a base price point but also reviews, etc. then I think if I had both of the two cigars in front of me, which one would I like to smoke. If it is an easy answer of the take, then maybe I need to re-evaluate what I am putting. If it is a pretty tough decision, then I am probably on the right track.

Do I think your puts are horrible or truly lopsided, not really, but do I think that the people after you will be stepping all over themselves to grab the cigars you are putting in....no.

I certainly don’t want to piss off new folks getting in on box passes but this one is a bit more stringent on quality than others. In a strictly premium pass, I would be completely happy with those puts.

BTW, the BTL I put in has probably been in my humidor for 5-6 years. If you know much about Fuentes, you will know that they are best with some serious age on them. If you were able to get your hands on another one and smoked them both, I guarantee the aged one would crush the other. 😃

Hopefully that didn’t seem too harsh.

David
stinger88 Offline
#173 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 4:56 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
No worries. I went ahead and purchased a few of the Opus X Lost City and AF BTL so we can move this ELITE train on along. My final takes/puts are as follows:

Takes:

LFD TAA 2016
Romeo y Julieta Wide Churchill
Davidoff The Late Hour


Puts:

Romeo y Julieta Cazadores 2017 (CC)
Davidoff 702 Special R
Stolen Throne Crook of the Crown Toro


All approved by David. I will send out to the next person tomorrow.

Oh and the Sin Compromiso is an excellent cigar IMO. U should buy some.
Herfing


Sounds good. Cleared to send to Palama.
fiddler898 Offline
#174 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 4:57 PM EST
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Clint, if the Dunbarton is a cigar you really like, throw it into the pass - no reason you can’t put more than you take! (I usually do...)

Cheers!

A.
Palama Offline
#175 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 5:14 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
No worries. I went ahead and purchased a few of the Opus X Lost City and AF BTL


So where did you get them from?

Of course, don’t mention the competitor on here so PM me with the name.

Thanks.
CelticBomber Offline
#176 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 8:30 PM EST
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Wow I need to find the person that got me sick and give them a big fat hug and kiss. Let's just say I would have said a few things I might have regretted I always look at it like this... is the last person gonna be like wow I can't believe all the unicorns in this box! Or could the last guy walk into any cigar shop and start stocking the shelves with the crap in that box? I'd be embarrassed as hell if I was in that pass and the answer was the 2nd one.
stinger88 Offline
#177 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 8:46 PM EST
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👍🏻👍🏻
CelticBomber Offline
#178 Posted: Wed, Sep 4 2019, 8:59 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
I'll play, can someone vouch for me


Now I feel bad. Sorry Shaun. Maybe next time.... Just so you guys know in the future Shaun is okay by me.... even if he spells his name wrong..Think
kombat96 Offline
#179 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 9:58 AM EST
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Definitely need a Elitist Example list for noops moving forward & they can google them in hopes of getting the understanding of what we view as elitist.


Celticbomber is a noop still, he just tries to hard. Such a Dink move. Bwahahah.

Stay classy cbid
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#180 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 11:19 AM EST
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CelticBomber wrote:
Wow I need to find the person that got me sick and give them a big fat hug and kiss. Let's just say I would have said a few things I might have regretted I always look at it like this... is the last person gonna be like wow I can't believe all the unicorns in this box! Or could the last guy walk into any cigar shop and start stocking the shelves with the crap in that box? I'd be embarrassed as hell if I was in that pass and the answer was the 2nd one.


That’s why I always put a few sticks in a bag marked organizer’s name in with the puts and takes
CelticBomber Offline
#181 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 1:39 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
If you give me permission to put in candy wrappers, I'll play...



LMAO! I just remember the reference. Didn't we "lose" 2 or 3 boxes pretty close to eachother? Brought all box passes to a halt for a long time.
CelticBomber Offline
#182 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 1:42 PM EST
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kombat96 wrote:
Definitely need a Elitist Example list for noops moving forward & they can google them in hopes of getting the understanding of what we view as elitist.


Celticbomber is a noop still, he just tries to hard. Such a Dink move. Bwahahah.

Stay classy cbid


There is no statute of limitations for touching a noops dirty bits. I could still testify.
CelticBomber Offline
#183 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 1:58 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
that would be cool.

I gotta say you have the patience of Job...not Steve Jobs, though he may have been very patient too, but he failed a s a patient cuz he died and stuff.


You sir are a national treasure. Or nuts. Either works for me. Just gotta figure out which nation..... hmmmThink
Palama Offline
#184 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 2:01 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
So where did you get them from?

Of course, don’t mention the competitor on here so PM me with the name.

Thanks.


Clint, thanks for the PM and the leads. As I feared, none of the sites had the blends or vitolas I was looking for. Then again, dunno if the prices would have been palpable either. Hope you enjoy your BTLs!

Herfing
clintCigar Offline
#185 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 2:36 PM EST
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En route to Conan:
9405503699300103059072

I repacked with a fresh 60g Boveda 72% and put a surprise cigar in my courtesy slot for stinger.

Herfing
crgcpro Offline
#186 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:01 PM EST
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stinger88 wrote:
Could be candy wrappers!



The Candy Wrapper Pass was brutal. It went to Illini with the candy wrappers and then on to me.

When I got it, there was nothing left but bundle cigars in it and about 3 decent cigars that Illini put in.
I pulled those bad cigars out and sent them to the troops and I replaced them with 30 Super premiums.

I believe that was the last pass I did here.


Pro
crgcpro Offline
#187 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:05 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
Clint, if the Dunbarton is a cigar you really like, throw it into the pass - no reason you can’t put more than you take! (I usually do...)

Cheers!

A.


We need a Like button here. This is the attitude I would want the participants to have if I was running or participating in a pass.
Palama Offline
#188 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:10 PM EST
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crgcpro wrote:
We need a Like button here. This is the attitude I would want the participants to have if I was running or participating in a pass.


BART!

Great to see you here my friend!

Hope your back is feeling better and your new job coming along.
crgcpro Offline
#189 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:14 PM EST
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New job is good but I'm working too hard. That's leading to the bad back but it is getting better.
USNGunner Offline
#190 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:50 PM EST
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crgcpro wrote:
We need a Like button here. This is the attitude I would want the participants to have if I was running or participating in a pass.



Yep. I absolutely concur.
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#191 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:50 PM EST
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Cigarlady7 wrote:
Clint,

Yeah, it was a decent pass. Smoked the Ashton last night. It was my first or second Ashton ( can't recall if I had before), but I wasn't as excited about it as I thought I would be. It is a great cigar, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't jump buy more. The others are resting... Waiting to take those on my trip to Paris end of year.

Did you receive the box today yet?




You can't be serious? Not only have you got bombed by Celtic Bomber and said you were going to retaliate and you never did. On top of that you try to take advantage of one of the best guys on this forum in stinger and his box pass.... Then you say it was a decent box pass??? GTFO with this nonsense.

There is already a F##$Tard here that pulls that **** in LemonHead....

Don't screw with the inner circle or you will get black listed!!!! Especially one that served this COUNTRY!!!!


Just would like to say Numi and I are doing great.....

kcuF ffO Shaun341 and LemonHead..... Everyone else Hope all is well.....

Palama if you need opus or some BTLs you know where to find me.....



Hey Frank, you forget about me old man???
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#192 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 3:52 PM EST
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This is amazing CELTIC!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkEHpflNJvw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0yAkHM1B32rvLiLsl3IelJn-qFEWFzEJkxknxCN_rck53wE-e-GtGTRe4


FU@# this B!TCH
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#193 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 4:09 PM EST
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308spat wrote:
You can't be serious? Not only have you got bombed by Celtic Bomber and said you were going to retaliate and you never did. On top of that you try to take advantage of one of the best guys on this forum in stinger and his box pass.... Then you say it was a decent box pass??? GTFO with this nonsense.

There is already a F##$Tard here that pulls that **** in LemonHead....

Don't screw with the inner circle or you will get black listed!!!! Especially one that served this COUNTRY!!!!


Just would like to say Numi and I are doing great.....

kcuF ffO Shaun341 and LemonHead..... Everyone else Hope all is well.....

Palama if you need opus or some BTLs you know where to find me.....



Hey Frank, you forget about me old man???


Oh my, this will be rich... 😎
stinger88 Offline
#194 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 4:14 PM EST
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clintCigar wrote:
En route to Conan:
9405503699300103059072

I repacked with a fresh 60g Boveda 72% and put a surprise cigar in my courtesy slot for stinger.

Herfing

Thanks Clint. Not necessary but appreciated.
frankj1 Offline
#195 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 4:40 PM EST
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308spat wrote:
You can't be serious? Not only have you got bombed by Celtic Bomber and said you were going to retaliate and you never did. On top of that you try to take advantage of one of the best guys on this forum in stinger and his box pass.... Then you say it was a decent box pass??? GTFO with this nonsense.

There is already a F##$Tard here that pulls that **** in LemonHead....

Don't screw with the inner circle or you will get black listed!!!! Especially one that served this COUNTRY!!!!


Just would like to say Numi and I are doing great.....

kcuF ffO Shaun341 and LemonHead..... Everyone else Hope all is well.....

Palama if you need opus or some BTLs you know where to find me.....



Hey Frank, you forget about me old man???


You the guy that lived in South Cackalacky with the miracle rehab marathoner wife?
hasn't been a day I haven't thought about ya...well, not many days anyway.

have had some stuff that I've shared on a limited basis...is the old email I used to use still active?
Will write tonight or soon if yes.
stinger88 Offline
#196 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 6:16 PM EST
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^^it is he.
frankj1 Offline
#197 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 7:27 PM EST
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stinger88 wrote:
^^it is he.

looks like a mirror image.
fiddler898 Offline
#198 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 7:28 PM EST
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(Shhhh... the boards have Minotaurs)
frankj1 Offline
#199 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 7:30 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
(Shhhh... the boards have Minotaurs)

I owe you an email.
you're incorrigible
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#200 Posted: Thu, Sep 5 2019, 7:55 PM EST
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Popcorn

d'oh!
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