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Still Believe the FBI Is Some Honorable Institution?
RayR Offline
#351 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
So black the blue because BLM is fake.

But if they go after a Republican than the cops are corrupt.

Did I get the MAGA Rat position right?


Must you always speak in apples and oranges?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#352 Posted:
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Go to the link at the bottom for vids that make this so much worse than what you're reading...

Electrion Interference: Zuck Tells Rogan Facebook Censored Hunter Laptop Story After FBI Request



Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed on Thursday that the FBI warned Facebook about "Russian propaganda" shortly before the Hunter Biden laptop story broke at the NY Post.

"Basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us- some folks on our team and was like, 'Hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert… We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that. So just be vigilant," Zuckerberg told Rogan.

As a reminder, Hunter Biden abandoned his laptop at a Wilmington, Delaware repair shop on April 12, 2019. The owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, walked into the Albuquerque FBI office, where he explained what he had, but was rebuffed by the FBI. He was told basically, get lost. This was mid-September 2019.

Two months passed and then, out of the blue, the FBI contacted John Paul Mac Issac. Two FBI agents from the Wilmington FBI office–Joshua Williams and Mike Dzielak–came to John Paul’s business. He offered immediately to give them the hard drive, no strings attached. Agents Williams and Dzielak declined to take the device.

Eight months later, Isaac provided a copy to then-President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who provided a copy of the hard drive to The Post.

Back to Rogan - Zuckerberg expressed regret about suppressing a story that turned out to be the truth.

"Yeah, yeah. I mean, it sucks," he said, before defending the platform for letting others share the NY Post story, unlike Twitter.

"It's probably also the case of armchair quarterbacking, right?" replied Rogan, adding "Or at least Monday morning quarterbacking… because in the moment, you had reason to believe based on the FBI talking to you that it wasn't real and that there was going to be some propaganda. So what do you do?" Rogan said. "And then, if you just let it get out there and what if it changes the election and it turns out to be bulls---, that's a real problem. And I would imagine that those kinds of decisions are the most difficult." (h/t Fox News).


In a letter from Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) to Inspector General Michael Horowitz this week, Johnson revealed that an FBI whistleblower claims that agency leadership gave orders not to investigate the laptop.

"Allegations provided to my office appear to indicate that there was a scheme in place among certain FBI officials to undermine derogatory information connected to Hunter Biden by falsely suggesting it was disinformation," wrote Sen. Grassley in a separate letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray.

Talk about running cover...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/zuck-rogan-fbi-warned-facebook-russian-propaganda-hunter-laptop-story-broke


So let's let social media be the shield for them and the Arbiter of Truth? Yeah...NO! It's not just Facebook either.

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/08/24/twitters-tricky-timing-problem-lawsuit-reveals-back-cdc-channel-to-coordinate-censorship/

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/400625.php

You should be able to decipher facts on your own without op ed or altered government jibberish. This nation is something our Founding Fathers would overthrow. Corruption, taxation without representation, a complete lack and steamroll of rights unless you have the right last name or are connected. They tore an ass in the World's Superpower at that time with squirrel rifles over 13% taxation.
ZRX1200 Offline
#353 Posted:
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It’s ok, they aren’t the deciderer….they farm that out to third parties that they approved and paid for.

I watched the video yesterday, Joe is strangely lacking in information at times and I wonder if this is a ploy to sound unbiased to people he interviews.
RayR Offline
#354 Posted:
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Zuck SUCKS!
Stogie1020 Offline
#355 Posted:
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So just to recap, The FBI knew the hunter laptop was real but told FB to expect a major "disinformation" story to be circulating soon knowing that they would do their level best to supress it if it was called "disinformation."


And no one on the left seems to see this as the true insurrection that it is? I mean, if we can start tossing that word around for subversive activity, the FBI litterally is going out of their way to influence elections and choose our President. That's an insurrection, no? OK, should we call it a coup?

All of you who claimed there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election, here is your widespread fraud and election intereference. Right.Damn.Here.

And FBI is the root of it.
HockeyDad Offline
#356 Posted:
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It’s not an insurrection or coup if it works.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#357 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
It’s not an insurrection or coup if it works.


Just minor inconveniences around every corner...


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/25/court-rejects-democrat-officials-attempt-keep-26k-dead-people-michigan-voter-rolls/
DrMaddVibe Offline
#358 Posted:
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Just how big of a douchebag do you have to be to get the boot from the SS???


FBI Agent Accused Of Sabotaging Hunter Biden Laptop Investigation Escorted Out Of Building



An FBI special agent at the heart of whistleblower allegations that he sabotaged the agency's 2020 investigation of Hunter Biden has been escorted out of the bureau's Washington DC field office, and was seen "exiting the bureau’s elevator last Friday escorted by two or three "headquarters-looking types,"" according to the Washington Times.

Timothy Thibault, who was in charge at the Washington field office until "relatively recently," was on leave for at least a month following revelations over political statements he made while leading the public corruption unit.

Thibault, among other things, made anti-Trump statements over social media in 2020 while he was helping to lead the FBI's probe of Hunter Biden, while his father, Joe Biden, was running for the White House. The FBI boss also retweeted a post by the Lincoln Project which called Trump "a psychologically broken, embittered and deeply unhappy man."

During recent testimony before the Senate, FBI Director Christopher A. Wray dodged questions about Mr. Thibault and his social media posts. He called it “ongoing personnel matters.”

Mr. Thibault, according to the former official, was also known for pushing out unvaccinated agents from the FBI’s election squad that he suspected to be Trump supporters.

One of the former officials, who is also a whistleblower talking to the House Judiciary Committee, was placed on indefinite suspension last year by the bureau because he attended the “Stop the Steal” rally in Washington on Jan. 6, 2021, that preceded a pro-Trump mob storming of the Capitol. The former officials said he never entered the Capitol.

After resigning late last year, he claimed other FBI officials were “purged” for attending the rally on their own time and not on official FBI business. -Washington Times

In late May, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) sought records from the DOJ regarding Thibault's work history following the accusations of political bias.

"Political bias should have no place at the FBI, and the effort to revive the FBI’s credibility can’t stop with his exit. We need accountability, which is why Congress must continue investigating and the inspector general must fully investigate as I’ve requested," he told the Times in a statement.

Meanwhile, several FBI whistleblowers told Grassley earlier this year that agents investigating Hunter Biden "opened an assessment which was used by an FBI headquarters team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and caused investigative activity to cease," adding that his office received "a significant number of protected communications from highly credible whistleblowers" regarding the investigation.

Grassley added that "verified and verifiable derogatory information on Hunter Biden was falsely labeled as disinformation," according to the Washington Examiner.

FBI supervisory intelligence agent Brian Auten opened in August 2020 the assessment that was later used by the agency, according to the disclosures. One of the whistleblowers claimed the FBI assistant special agent in charge of the Washington field office, Timothy Thibault, shut down a line of inquiry into Hunter Biden in October 2020 despite some of the details being known to be true at the time.

A whistleblower also said Thibault “ordered closed” an “avenue of additional derogatory Hunter Biden reporting," according to Grassley, even though “all of the reporting was either verified or verifiable via criminal search warrants.” The senator said Thibault “ordered the matter closed without providing a valid reason as required” and that FBI officials “subsequently attempted to improperly mark the matter in FBI systems so that it could not be opened in the future,” according to the disclosures.

The whistleblowers say investigators from FBI headquarters were "in communication with FBI agents responsible for the Hunter Biden information targeted by Mr. Auten's assessment," and that their findings on whether the claims were in fact disinformation were placed "in a restricted access sub-file" in September 2020, according to Grassley, who added that the disclosures "appear to indicate that there was a scheme in place among certain FBI officials to undermine derogatory information connected to Hunter Biden by falsely suggesting it was disinformation."

Amid the revelations that the FBI told Facebook to quash the Hunter Biden laptop story - a clear case of election interference, Trump called for an "immediate" redo of the 2020 election,

Last week, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed that the FBI told them to be on the lookout for "Russian propaganda."

"Basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us- some folks on our team and was like, 'Hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert… We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump of that's similar to that. So just be vigilant," Zuckerberg told Rogan.

As a reminder, Hunter Biden abandoned his laptop at a Wilmington, Delaware repair shop on April 12, 2019. The owner, John Paul Mac Isaac, walked into the Albuquerque FBI office, where he explained what he had, but was rebuffed by the FBI. He was told basically, get lost. This was mid-September 2019.

Two months passed and then, out of the blue, the FBI contacted John Paul Mac Issac. Two FBI agents from the Wilmington FBI office–Joshua Williams and Mike Dzielak–came to John Paul’s business. He offered immediately to give them the hard drive, no strings attached. Agents Williams and Dzielak declined to take the device.

Eight months later, Isaac provided a copy to then-President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who provided a copy of the hard drive to The Post.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-agent-accused-sabotaging-hunter-biden-laptop-investigation-escorted-out-building



GTFO~

The "hangman" is coming for you Wray. You cannot hide anymore.
ZRX1200 Offline
#359 Posted:
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They also held a briefing with Grassley and Johnson so that they could leak the fact that they had briefed them in order to discredit them about this very thing. Honest men would care about this type of abuse of power, this is exactly how you to very bad places.
Stogie1020 Offline
#360 Posted:
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Remember when we tried to impeach a president because a single whistleblower, Vindman, didn't like DJT's call with Ukraine?

Here we have multiple whistleblower coming to MOCs with the same story, and the pieces fit directly into the puzzle of the FBI and Docial Media intentionally manipulating an election.
frankj1 Offline
#361 Posted:
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they also announced reopening the Hillary investigation one week before the election...probably had zero effect so don't mention it.

Who the frank was the moron who appointed Wray in the first place. Must have thought he'd be impartial, or at least play ball, right?

The political guillotine swings back and forth, back and forth...
ZRX1200 Offline
#362 Posted:
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Hilldog should have been disclosed long before the election. Would have been interesting to see the FBI sabotage the made up 💩 on Cheeto and the reaction here. It doesn’t swing back and forth when the FBI is literally making up evidence (admission not my conjecture) to benefit one side and cover up the other Frank.
HockeyDad Offline
#363 Posted:
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The FBI, DNC, mainstream media, and social media conspiring to throw an election…

Nothing to see here.
HockeyDad Offline
#364 Posted:
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I’m glad autocorrect didn’t change that to erection.
frankj1 Offline
#365 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Hilldog should have been disclosed long before the election. Would have been interesting to see the FBI sabotage the made up 💩 on Cheeto and the reaction here. It doesn’t swing back and forth when the FBI is literally making up evidence (admission not my conjecture) to benefit one side and cover up the other Frank.

timing has more impact.

ZRX1200 Offline
#366 Posted:
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Not IMO she stood to lose to Bernie in the primary had it been done earlier.

And the timing the other way was from the moment he announced his candidacy till now, you’re comparing apples and tie rods…..the context is nowhere near the same solar system and I will repeat for the hundredth time I didn’t vote for Cheeto and I don’t like his personality nor the majority of his politics which were much more Clinton/W Bush/Obama than any far right crap that is thrown out there.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#367 Posted:
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Why should the number 288 never be mentioned?
It's just two gross
bgz Offline
#368 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
The FBI, DNC, mainstream media, and social media conspiring to throw an erection…

Nothing to see here.


Just be glad it's only one.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#369 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Hilldog should have been disclosed long before the election. Would have been interesting to see the FBI sabotage the made up 💩 on Cheeto and the reaction here. It doesn’t swing back and forth when the FBI is literally making up evidence (admission not my conjecture) to benefit one side and cover up the other Frank.



See the way Lefty works and then pretends its not happening?
Yeah.
MACS Offline
#370 Posted:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UElW1_SiOuc

FBI and DOJ starting to unravel?
ZRX1200 Offline
#371 Posted:
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Tebow keeping his pension is outrageous.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#372 Posted:
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What did the 0 say to the 8?
Nice belt!
CelticBomber Offline
#373 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
What did the 0 say to the 8?
Nice belt!


Are you on some sort of mailing list? These are primo dad jokes. Can I be on the list? Can I use you as a reference to get on the list? I never get invited to join the cool lists...
Sunoverbeach Offline
#374 Posted:
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Be one with The Google. The Google knows all.
ZRX1200 Offline
#375 Posted:
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We’ve had a group text of 20 guys who share jokes for the last 4 years……
rfenst Offline
#376 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
We’ve had a group text of 20 guys who share jokes for the last 4 years……

Sweet.
MACS Offline
#377 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
We’ve had a group text of 20 guys who share jokes for the last 4 years……


There's only 4 of us... Think

Laugh
ZRX1200 Offline
#378 Posted:
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Shhhhh….I’m toying with someone here.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#379 Posted:
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The FBI's Apex Bureaucracy Is Dangerous



There is growing hand-wringing among the devil's den in D.C. that the American people's cratering confidence in the Department of Injustice and Fascist Bureau of Investigation will lead to absolute anarchy in the streets. Considering both institutions have been vocal cheerleaders for Black Lives Matter and Antifa domestic terrorists and that Democrats' war on police and support for open borders have succeeded in producing skyrocketing crime rates throughout the country without any pushback from Merrick Garland or Chris Wray, their mercurial concern for the rule of law seems grounded in nothing more than risible self-interest. They don't trust us! Worse, they don't fear us! What if they learn not to obey?

Here's a truth that tens of millions of Americans understand: if the sweeping criminal enforcement arm of the federal Leviathan disappeared tomorrow, life for the vast majority of citizens would go unchanged. It might even improve. We are spoon-fed this Big Government fallacy from kindergarten on up that absolute chaos lurks behind every corner if not for the protections provided from our beneficent bureaucratic masters who maintain order and peace. That's absurd propaganda meant to keep Americans conditioned into accepting total government control.

The infantile dependence on government agents for security and survival is a recent phenomenon that does nothing but legitimize limitless State power. When our ancestors were settling the wilderness of this expansive continent just a few generations ago, they didn't stop their wagon trains every time they reached the boundary between civilization and the frontier. Nobody looked around and said, "Okay, we better wait here until the federal government catches up and finds time to build some interstate highways, a national police force, a welfare system, and proper surveillance technology to keep us all in line." Rugged individualism, family commitment, community, camaraderie, vigilance, and religious devotion built this country from the ground up — not the bloodsucking apparatchiks of the bloated administrative State.

Personal responsibility and morality play far greater roles in promoting social peace than any government regulator recording names or bureaucratic billy club smashing heads. In American communities where citizens work, play, and pray together, peace and harmony exist without the need for some authoritarian police State breathing down everyone's neck. Is it any wonder, then, why Big Government proselytizers frown upon public pronouncements in support of religious faith, morality, or personal responsibility, when those three pillars for a stable society greatly reduce the need for heavy-handed punishment and bureaucratic enforcement (not to mention, lifelong federal pensions)? Tens of thousands of towns across the country wouldn't miss a beat if our highly politicized DOJ and FBI disbanded tomorrow because, despite the "woke" cultural degradation wreaking havoc within blue city-states and leftist enclaves, a robust American spirit still thrives in red regions that encourages self-reliance and an aversion toward abject dependence upon the political calculations of civil authorities — especially when wrestling with the weighty moral consequences separating right from wrong.

What about all the Chinese spies and other foreign threats within our borders? Who will keep track of all of them? Well, maybe the federal government should refrain from filling its ranks with foreign agent-saboteurs and consider shutting down the Southern border once and for all — you know, the kind of commonsense actions that ordinary Americans would have taken long ago, if not for the vexingly anti-American policies bubbling up from the D.C. Swamp. Who will pre-emptively read through Americans' email, text, and phone call "metadata" in search of "threats" that may or may not exist? Twenty years after the post-9/11 PATRIOT Act architecture redefined Americans' constitutional rights without amendment ratification or public permission, perhaps it is time for Americans to insist that federal officers once again deign to establish probable cause and execute valid warrants before they go snooping where they have not been invited. Maybe it is time for citizens to recognize that with their silence and compliance, they have handed away a mountain's worth of personal liberty for an anthill's hollow promise that they would remain secure. Any way you slice it, nothing about the expansive, entrenched, and cumbersome national security Deep State that exists today is remotely conducive to Americans' constitutional rights or personal liberties.

The surveillance state buttressed by the DOJ and FBI justifies its enduring need to violate Americans' privacy by disseminating waves of fear to the public and pretending that its existence, however unsavory, is critical for Americans' personal survival. It is far past time for Americans to recognize this ruse as the con it is and reclaim their inherent freedoms. We have many grand American traditions. The FBI is not one of them. Neither the Constitution nor American history supports the existence of a quasi-independent national security force unconscionably vested with such broad authority to engage in domestic espionage, counterintelligence, and criminal enforcement as to render it omnisciently powerful. That Congress and successive presidential administrations for the last century have allowed an institution possessing such supremacy over citizens to exist at all undermines the U.S. Constitution's principal guarantees against abusive government. Even if it were led by and staffed with Americans of the highest moral character, its presence in a free nation would remain an abomination.

Whatever the FBI's past successes, it poses entirely too much of a threat to both Americans' liberty and security. Given its highly political and suspect activities during the last decade and longer, those threats are no longer theoretical. Without the FBI wasting law enforcement resources pursuing politically explosive yet highly questionable arrests near every election season, perhaps crime rates would actually drop. Certainly Chris Wray's agents would no longer need to organize fake kidnapping attempts or set up fake terrorist attacks as part of the FIBbers' relentless efforts to inflate their own "domestic extremism" numbers! Without a doubt, many parents attending local school board meetings and conservative political protesters exercising constitutional rights would sleep better knowing that the strong-arm of the lawless won't be breaking down their doors in the middle of the night under the color of legal authority! Maybe President Trump could even run for re-election again without having to defend against the Obama-Biden Gestapo constantly working to indict him or his supporters for daring to confront Deep State hegemony! Or does "democracy" survive only in the imposed darkness of FBI raids, home invasions, illegal general warrants, property confiscations, intimidation, and forced compliance?

The DOJ-FBI monstrosity that now exists is another powerful example of how a nation's culture ultimately determines a nation's fate. Because so much business of the State today occurs in secret and beyond citizens' oversight, it has never been more important for ordinary citizens and their government to share a common culture keeping their interests aligned. When the bureaucracy does not share the people's beliefs, then it persistently acts contrary to their wishes. It replaces Americans' wants and needs with its own. And like any apex beast, it becomes a danger to those who dare threaten its control.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/09/the_fbis_apex_bureaucracy_is_dangerous.html#.Yx8JHTsT-A8.twitter


How many more alphabet .gov's do you think we can do without? It's time to admit that they're not doing anything useful and it would be a great place to start whittling down the bloated budget.
MACS Offline
#380 Posted:
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FBI went after Mike Lindell, now... took his cell phone.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mypillow-ceo-mike-lindell-says-his-phone-was-seized-fbi-2022-9
HockeyDad Offline
#381 Posted:
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It seems like the FBI has degraded itself to the point of just being a social media influencer.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#382 Posted:
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Naw...they're much much more than that. How else are they going to keep on getting invites to those sweeeeet DNC parties!

They're the SS for the DNC.

The DNC is a terrorist organization.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#383 Posted:
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Wife asked me if I'd seen the dog bowl.

I didn't even know he was able to.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#384 Posted:
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So much to unpack.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/day-1-igor-danchenko-trial

Where are the perp walks?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#385 Posted:
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Even After Offering $1M, FBI Never Got Corroboration Of Russia Dossier They Used To Spy On Trump


Even though the FBI offered $1 million if he would be able to prove any of the claims made in his dossier, former British spy Christopher Steele was unable to do so, an intelligence official testified on Tuesday. Nevertheless, the FBI used the dossier to secure wiretaps to spy on Donald Trump-related individuals and to spread a narrative of treasonous collusion with Russia by the former president.

FBI supervisory analyst Brian Auten made the confession during the trial of Igor Danchenko, Steele’s unnamed “Primary Sub-Source” who funneled anti-Trump information manufactured by a Hillary Clinton booster to Steele and is now facing indictment on five counts of lying to the FBI.

Auten said the FBI never paid Steele — who was employed by Fusion GPS, which Clinton’s campaign lawyers commissioned to dig up dirt connecting Trump to Russia — because the British spy could not “prove the allegations” outlined in his dossier. Under questioning from Special Counsel John Durham, who is prosecuting Danchenko, Auten also testified that Steele failed to disclose his sources’ names to the FBI during their formal meeting just one month before the 2016 election.

Several top FBI officials and Steele formally met overseas on Oct. 3, 2016. It was then that the FBI offered Steele $1 million cash to prove his dossier, which contained a long list of false and concocted claims about Trump colluding with Russia to win the White House. As Auten has now repeatedly explained, Steele did not have proof that his findings were true.

Despite Steele’s inability to prove the false allegations of conspiracy and collusion, the FBI used the dossier in its Oct. 21 original application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court demanding permission to spy on Trump and his advisers including Carter Page. The dossier was also included in three more FISA renewal applications, which prolonged government intelligence’s recon on Trump and were later deemed invalid and an abuse of power.

That didn’t stop Steele or his employer from peddling the hoax. In addition to leveraging their connection with the FBI to feed false information about Trump to officials at the Department of Justice and Department of State — which knew, along with the FBI, that surveillance of Trump was based on disinformation — Steele and Fusion GPS coordinated with corporate media to disseminate the unproven and now-discredited material to the voting public.

Auten’s testimony contradicts what the FBI told Congress about Steele and his dossier. During a briefing on March 8, 2017, the FBI told Congress that Steele was not paid “for the information on Russia’s activities relating to Trump and the Trump campaign.” Instead, the FBI claimed that they simply covered Steele’s travel arrangements to “meet with us,” neglecting to mention they had offered him seven figures to prove something he could not.

While it’s true that DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz knew the FBI offered Steele money and indicated that in his FISA abuse report, he did not say how much the offer was. It’s unclear if the FBI refused to share the exact number with the inspector general or if Horowitz simply chose not to publicize that number.

Danchenko also gave contradicting statements during his trial. The Russian national claimed he received key information from Sergei Millian, the former head of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce, via an anonymous phone call. Prosecutors, however, say there is no evidence nor are there phone records that indicate Danchenko ever communicated with Millian.

Danchenko also claimed he never “talked” with Charles Dolan, a Democrat operative who worked on Clinton’s campaign, about the dossier. Prosecutors, however, said evidence suggests Danchenko “spoke with Mr. Dolan over email” about the contents of the dossier.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/12/even-after-offering-1m-fbi-never-got-corroboration-of-russia-dossier-they-used-to-spy-on-trump/


Lefty will support them though. Even when facts as inconvenient as they are show themselves...believe the lies. Believe the lies. Ignore your own eyes and ears. Believe the lies.

Even on foreign soil the FBI carried out their seditious act.
RiverRatRuss Offline
#386 Posted:
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If'n ya'll like to read?
I got a Good Friend from NY City, Never called me by my name.. Just Hill Billy!! for $43 dollars they stabbed him in the back..

I met Thomas McHale after 911 around 2006 (we've never met in person Yet) but stayed in touch over the years via email, phone and text. He was a NY Port Authority Officer on 911, also a Union Iron worker, in which he gave up that Career to become FBI and did many Covert Ops overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq. He was standing side by side the day Bush showed up at the World Trade Center towers and gave his speach with the Bull Horn. Thomas was standing by the Flag that they had Hung off the I Beam behind Bush. Tom is retired now, basically forced out as he was a whistleblower in some of the FBI Chit that was going on behind closed doors. he sent me links to books he is Honorably mentioned in throughout I'm going to share these here with ya'll if you want to take the time and read them it gives you InSite on the corruption that followed after 911.

Hey Russ, just returned home from FL survived Ian.
Books: The Comey Gang - John Ligato, 2020 (2 Chapters);
The Hunt For KSM - Terry McDermott & Josh Meyer, 2013;
Enemies Within - Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman, 2013;
The Book of Man - William Bennett 2011
The Reluctant Spy - John Kiriakou, 2010 (2 Chapters);
The Cell - John Miller, 2003 (Mentioned by description, not named, as NY Detective in Pakistan/Afghanistan 2002);
China and The Middle East - James M Dorsey, 2018; Reprint NY Times BS.

Enjoy!!!
Hog

BTW we became good friends from my woodworking business, I built his entire "War Room" via USPS, Fed-Ex, UPS, as I said we've never met in person, but when we do he's got access to the rooftop at the new World Trade Center where one day we are both going to enjoy a cigar and a beverage or two and look down and around the entire city!!!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#387 Posted:
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Russ, just to clarify...I'm positive there are some good apples in the alphabet organizations. What's the saying about bad apples in a barrel?

It applies.

The top down needs to be obliterated from breathing air. They're run by criminals for criminals. Lefty still won't admit what the FBI has done to Trump while a private citizen, President and back to private citizen. They see it. They don't ever call it out though. That's why I say the FBI is the SS for the DNC. The DNC really is a terrorist organization. From their inception to now. Born from the Klu Klux Klan, Margret Sanger's material, Jim Crow w/ segregation and all the way to Pedo Joe.

I've read The Reluctant Spy. That was a good book.

Enjoy the view.
RiverRatRuss Offline
#388 Posted:
Joined: 09-02-2022
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Russ, just to clarify...I'm positive there are some good apples in the alphabet organizations. What's the saying about bad apples in a barrel?

It applies.

The top down needs to be obliterated from breathing air. They're run by criminals for criminals. Lefty still won't admit what the FBI has done to Trump while a private citizen, President and back to private citizen. They see it. They don't ever call it out though. That's why I say the FBI is the SS for the DNC. The DNC really is a terrorist organization. From their inception to now. Born from the Klu Klux Klan, Margret Sanger's material, Jim Crow w/ segregation and all the way to Pedo Joe.

I've read The Reluctant Spy. That was a good book.

Enjoy the view.


OH... I Know DMV.... It's a very sad state we are in and the Corruption isn't going to let up anytime soon or at all? but it trickles on down to even Small town BS. I see it everyday right here in Illinois.

Another book "All Illinoisans need to read is this one: The Governor You Do Not Know By Dennis Byrne (he used to be a Democrat and OpEd writer from Chicago. he now relocated to FL. and dumped the DNC.

His book is floating around Facebook for Free.
https://rumble.com/v1mjchi-the-governor-you-do-not-know-an-authors-interview.html
DrMaddVibe Offline
#389 Posted:
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Why The FBI’s Last-Minute Change To A FISA Application Is Worse Than Using Unverified Steele Dossier



It was the final FISA deception, not merely the FBI’s reliance on the uncorroborated Steele dossier, that led to the illegal surveillance of Carter Page.

Special Counsel John Durham’s deft questioning of FBI agent Brian Auten during the prosecution of Steele-dossier primary sub-source Igor Danchenko confirmed the Crossfire Hurricane team obtained permission to surveil U.S. citizen Carter Page without first verifying the dossier’s claims. While scandalous, the Justice Department’s deceptive framing of Christopher Steele’s source network as connected to his prior work with British intelligence is worse because the higher-ups who authorized the inclusion of this detail in the final revision of the application knew a FISA warrant would likely be denied without the misrepresentation.

The special counsel’s criminal trial against Danchenko on five counts of lying to the FBI began earlier this week in a Virginia federal court, with prosecutor Michael Keilty framing for the jury the significance of Danchenko’s alleged lies during the government’s opening statement.

“The evidence in this trial will show that the Steele dossier would cause the FBI to engage in troubling conduct that would ultimately result in the extended surveillance of the United States citizen,” Keilty began, a reference to the FBI’s FISA-approved surveillance of Page. “And the defendant’s lies played a role in that surveillance,” the prosecution continued, arguing that Danchenko lied about his sources. Specifically, the government explained, the evidence would show Danchenko lied about Sergei Millian being one source and then later falsely denied that Charles Dolan provided other information Danchenko had fed to Steele.

The Uncorroborated Dossier

John Durham then questioned the government’s first witness, Brian Auten. Through Auten, a supervisory intelligence analyst for the FBI who led the analysts working on Crossfire Hurricane, the special counsel elicited testimony for the jury of the origins of the investigation into the Trump campaign and the D.C. headquarters’ receipt of the Steele dossier on Sept. 19, 2016.

From there, Auten walked the jury through a trip to Europe, in which agents offered Steele up to $1 million for information to confirm the dossier allegations, and Steele’s inability to provide evidence to confirm the claims of Trump-Russia collusion. Auten further explained that while Steele refused to identify his sources, by December of 2016, through research, Auten had determined that Danchenko served as Steele’s primary sub-source.

After identifying Danchenko as Steele’s primary sub-source, Auten explained that the FBI sought Danchenko’s cooperation, making him a confidential human source and offering him immunity. Auten further testified about Danchenko’s work with the Crossfire Hurricane team and what Danchenko told them — and didn’t tell them, including Danchenko’s claims, multiple times, that he had received a telephone call from someone he believed to be Millian providing intel about the Trump campaign’s Russia connections. Auten also told the jury that Danchenko had denied talking with Dolan about any of the details contained in the dossier.

Durham further elicited from Auten testimony that the four FISA applications used to obtain a surveillance order to spy on Page included information from the Steele dossier, including details provided by Danchenko that Danchenko had attributed to Millian. And in questioning Auten about the FISA applications and their reliance on the Steele dossier, Durham pounded the point that the FBI had used the Steele dossier to obtain a court order to surveil a United States citizen without corroborating any of the substantive details contained in the supposed intelligence report.

Between Sept. 19, 2016, when the FBI headquarters first received the Steele dossier, and Oct. 21, 2016, when the government submitted the first FISA application, “were you able to confirm or corroborate in any of the FBI system the very serious allegations that were contained in dossier reports,” Durham asked Auten. “No,” Auten replied.

“And what can you tell the jurors about whether or not any of the intelligence agencies that the FBI contacted for corroborative information produced any corroborative information” about the dossier’s allegations? Durham inquired.

“We did receive information back from a number of different agencies,” Auten explained, but nothing that corroborated the specific allegations in the dossier.

The questions continued: “Did Christopher Steele provide any corroborative information for the information that was contained in his reports, in the dossier reports?”

“Not for the allegations, no,” Auten confirmed.

“At any time when you were overseas meeting with Steele in early October, did he provide anything?” Durham pushed.

Auten: “He did not.”

What about “at any time after the October meeting with Mr. Steele and after the million dollars-plus had been offered as an incentive to provide corroborative information for what was in those reports, did he provide any corroborative information?” Durham inquired.

“No,” Auten testified.

And yet, portions of the Steele dossier “played a significant part” in the Carter Page FISA applications. The special counsel reiterated that point regularly during the first few days of the trial while stressing — in question after question — that the FBI had failed to corroborate the allegations.

With Danchenko being the main source for Steele’s dossier, that testimony strengthened the government’s case that Danchenko’s alleged lies materially affected the FBI’s investigation. Simultaneously, the special counsel’s line of questioning served to castigate Auten and the other members of the Crossfire Hurricane team for using uncorroborated material to surveil a United States citizen.

Misleading M16 Info

The FBI’s use of the uncorroborated Steele dossier was not the FBI’s worst offense, however. Worse still was the Crossfire Hurricane team’s last-minute amendment to the FISA application that misleadingly framed Steele’s source network as one established during his time as an MI6 agent, when, in fact, neither Danchenko nor any of Steele’s other dossier sources had been sources during his time with British intelligence.

While Steele would later confirm for the inspector general that his source network did not involve sources from his time with MI6, but “was developed entirely in the period after he retired from government service,” from Auten’s detailed trial testimony, we now know that the Crossfire Hurricane team either knew Steele’s source network was not connected to British intelligence or knew that it could not, in good faith, make that representation to the FISA court.

For two days, Durham elicited testimony from Auten of the FBI’s attempts to ascertain Steele’s source network, including during a trip to Europe in early October, but Steele refused to identify his sources. Auten’s testimony in this regard proves significant when considered together with details previously revealed in the Office of Inspector General’s report on FISA abuse.

In discussing the process the FBI undertook to obtain the first FISA warrant on Page, the OIG explained that the day before the FISA court granted the surveillance order, the government submitted a “read copy” of the FISA application to the FISA court’s legal adviser for a preliminary assessment of any issues. The FISA court’s legal adviser asked the attorney working with the FBI on the application “how it was that Steele had a network of subsources?”

The government lawyer “provided additional information to him regarding Steele’s past employment history,” the OIG report explained; that response implied Steele’s source network came from his time with MI6. Significantly, the FISA court’s legal adviser then indicated the additional detail of Steele’s prior work with British intelligence should be included in the official FISA application to the court.

“That the legal advisor not only raised the question about Steele’s access to a network of sources, but then insisted that the FISA application be updated to include information concerning Steele’s prior government position, shows the FISA court placed great significance on Steele’s previous British intelligence work for purposes of assessing the reliability of his source network.” And with that misleading information added, the next day, Oct. 21, 2016, the FISA court issued the first of four orders authorizing the surveillance of Page’s phone and email accounts.

Given the importance the legal adviser placed on understanding Steele’s source network, it seems unlikely the FISA court would have authorized the surveillance of Page had the FBI either acknowledged that Steele’s source network came from his private work with Orbis or conceded that Steele had refused to reveal his sources. It was this final deception, then, and not merely the FBI’s reliance on the uncorroborated Steele dossier, that led to the illegal surveillance of Page. And, here, those involved in adding the last-minute, credibility-boosting footnote reference to Steele’s MI6 work knew full well that misrepresentation would score the bureau a surveillance warrant, making it an even worse transgression.

Of course, we’ve yet to see the FBI agents responsible for this farce face justice, and as edifying as it is to hear Durham eviscerate the agents involved, that is not enough to ensure this travesty never repeats itself — because it already is.

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/14/why-the-fbis-last-minute-change-to-a-fisa-application-is-worse-than-using-unverified-steele-dossier/


And that is the stuff that gets private jets to meet up on a runway while the airport shuts the place down so they can talk.

Any takers on that one?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#390 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
Posts: 13,221
Tall people are expected to use their reach to help shorter people, but if a tall person asked a short person to hand them something they dropped, it'd be insulting
DrMaddVibe Offline
#391 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 52,896
When you read the transcripts...Lefty wants to believe in Insurrection...but stays dead quiet on this...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbi-paid-danchenko-over-200k-day-3-trial-summary
DrMaddVibe Offline
#392 Posted:
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Friends of yours Mr. Jones????

https://rumble.com/v1n0t0q-fbi-raids-house-of-pro-life-leader-paul-vaughn.html

Know who they are?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#393 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 52,896

"Spelled out in law

The former agent says embezzlement under Title 18, U.S.C. 641 is distinct from other forms of theft in that “the physical taking of the property is often lawful … This can be as simple as using a government-issued vehicle or other device for personal use.”

The statute was used “to great effect and impact, resulting in the indictment, guilty plea and firing of an FBI inspector, and two former FBI directors, one who resigned short of their term, and the other who was fired by President Bill Clinton.”

However, Republican members of Congress say that the Government Accountability Office has permitted previous FBI directors to use government aircraft for personal use as long as they reimburse taxpayers at the commercial rate — which is why they have asked Wray for receipts.

“Hearing logistics are worked out with congressional committees in advance,” the FBI said in a statement. “Director Wray’s testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on August 4 was consistent with the prearranged format and timing, and was also consistent with the length of the Committee’s 2021 oversight hearing.

“The FBI Director travels by government aircraft due to the FBI’s national security mission, which necessitates specific communications capabilities and security considerations. Director Wray has adhered to the federal regulations governing the use of the aircraft to include reimbursement for personal use. The Bureau’s national security and law enforcement operations, including transporting investigators and critical evidence, has been and remains the first priority for all FBI aircraft.”"


https://nypost.com/2022/10/16/director-christopher-wrays-use-of-fbi-jet-amounts-to-embezzlement-current-ex-agents-allege/


Wray is making sure he gets fired now.

Sunoverbeach Offline
#394 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
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People who are good looking but have terrible personalities are basically real life click bait
Mr. Jones Offline
#395 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 17,418
I have zero friends in the F.B.I....

Many haters though....

Agent Doug @ Landis VALLEY farm museum and Agent Bull**** @ Troegs brewery we're half decent...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#396 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 52,896
Never Forget they said. Disgraceful.

I guess this is part of those pesky Jan 6th "facts" Lefty cries about.

Disgraced Former FBI Official Declares '9/11 Is Nothing Compared To Jan 6th'



In an insane segment on MSNBC Sunday, disgraced former FBI official and rabid anti-Trump lunatic Peter Strzok described the September 11 2001 terror attacks, which killed thousands of Americans, as “nothing” compared to Trump supporters entering the Capitol building on January 6th 2021.

After MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace claimed January 6 was “the deadliest attack on the U.S. capital in history,” Strzok agreed and added “I think if you look at the scale in terms of a threat to democracy, 9/11 was a tragedy, we lost thousands of lives in a horrific way. We still mourn to this day. But when you look at something that is an attack on democracy, something that could bring about a fundamental change to American governance, 9/11 is nothing compared to January 6th.”

Strzok, the guy in the FBI who spearheaded a counter-intelligence investigation against Trump based on a the completely discredited Steele dossier continued, “The fact that the FBI and the rest of the government if they are not on the same sort of war footing that we were on in the weeks and months and years after 9/11, shame on everyone.”

“This is a far greater threat to our constitutional democracy than anything we’ve faced in the past 20 or more years,” Strzok further proclaimed, adding “We need to be addressing it the same way [as 9/11].”

“I suspect if they were, if we were, we might hear more about it and I think that’s the sort of thing that gives a lot of observers, those of us who have been in the FBI, a little bit of concern whether the same urgency and approach to the situation, whether that approach is on par with the nature of the threat we’re facing right now,” Strzok whined.


Watch: https://tinyurl.com/yc7c3tx5

While that was the cherry on top, the rest of the segment was off the chart, with more ‘experts’ crowing about the FBI being ‘too soft’ on Trump supporters, compared to law enforcement being heavy handed against BLM rioters.

Strzok was fired from the FBI in 2018 after anti-Trump texts dating from two years previously between him and former FBI lawyer Lisa Page, with whom he was having an affair, were discovered.

Prior to Trump’s victory, Strzok told Page that “we won’t allow” Trump to be elected, before going on to be directly involved in the Russia collusion and Hillary Clinton email investigations.

A recent poll conducted by Harvard/Harris found that average Americans don’t consider January 6th to be a pressing issue, with just 7 percent of voters listing it as being on par with matters such as inflation, the economy, crime, and immigration.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/disgraced-former-fbi-official-declares-911-nothing-compared-jan-6th
Mr. Jones Offline
#397 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 17,418
Strzok is an aloof douche bag....

Just imagine 200 people just like him living up your ass
Day in day out for 18 months straight in full blown FULL COURT PRESS trying to HARRASS you, discredit you, & make you commit suicide...then when that doesn't work...they outright try and kill you with "convenient accidents"....

I know at least 200+300 FBI-SSG DIVISION AGENTS and early RELEASED FELON criminals under their thumbs JUST AS
ALL OF AND INSUBORDINATE AS HIM...
Mr. Jones Offline
#398 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 17,418
Strzok is an aloof douche bag....

Just imagine 200 people just like him living up your ass
Day in day out for 18 months straight in full blown FULL COURT PRESS trying to HARRASS you, discredit you, & make you commit suicide...then when that doesn't work...they outright try and kill you with "convenient accidents"....

I know at least 200+300 FBI-SSG DIVISION AGENTS and early RELEASED FELON criminals under their thumbs JUST AS
ALoof AND INSUBORDINATE AS HIM...

Are their any honest trustworthy F.B.I. AGENTS?

NOT THAT I KNOW OF PERSONALLY...

AND I KNOW AROUND 200-300 OF THEM and they where biggest criminal AZZHOLES I ever met in my entire life...

BAR NONE...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#399 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 52,896
meanwhile ANTIFA and BLM...oh, riight..


Former FBI Official To Testify On Agency Allegedly Inflating Domestic Terrorism Data


Authored by Rita Li via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours),

Former FBI Counterterrorism Division Assistant Director Jill Sanborn is to be interviewed by the House Judiciary Committee on Dec. 2 over alleged politicization, including inflating domestic terrorism numbers, House GOP members announced Thursday.

A joint letter released on Oct. 20 by Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the committee’s ranking member, and Rep. Mike Johnson (R-La.), accused the ex-FBI official of failing to take “any meaningful steps” to arrange the interview over the past two months following an initial request.

In a letter to Sanborn on Aug. 10, the GOP lawmakers called on the former official to testify regarding whistleblower claims of the bureau pressuring agents to inflate the numbers of “domestic violent extremism” cases, including those didn’t meet the criteria. The pair asked Sanborn to contact the committee and schedule the interview no later than Aug. 24.

“Only late last Friday did your attorneys offer a specific date for a transcribed interview—December 2, 2022—a date six weeks in the future and nearly four months since our initial request,” the lawmakers wrote.

Sanborn served as Counterterrorism Division assistant director at the law enforcement agency and then as executive assistant director at the National Security branch between January 2020 and April 2021, until she left the federal service.

With the Biden administration saying domestic violent extremism is the “greatest threat” facing the country, whistleblowers have sounded the alarm that officials “encouraged and incentivized” FBI agents to reclassify cases to pad domestic terrorism data “even though there is minimal, circumstantial evidence to support the reclassification.”

One whistleblower identified Sanborn as an official who pressured agents to hit self-created performance metrics, said the GOP officials.

According to the latest letter, Sanborn’s attorneys claimed that the FBI’s approval for the former official’s appearance must be in place.

“You should be aware that, here too, we do not share your attorneys’ view. Every federal employee, and former employee, has a right to speak with Congress without interference, intimidation, or obstruction from his or her employing agency,” the Republicans wrote in response. “To the extent that the FBI is or has been preventing your ability to respond to our request in a timely and comprehensive manner, we will be interested in examining these facts during your transcribed interview.”

The two also dismissed a forthcoming letter from the FBI, which Sanborn’s attorneys had claimed would fully respond to the committee’s request and could bypass the need for testimony.

“Our request to you for a transcribed interview is separate and distinct from the requests for documents and information we have made to the FBI and the Justice Department,” said Jordan and Johnson.

An FBI spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Read more here...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/former-fbi-official-testify-agency-allegedly-inflating-domestic-terrorism-data


O'Biden still chasing after those white supremacists. All he had to do was look at ANTIFA masquerading as some pipe dream to find them. History shows us that the Brown Shirts...it didn't work out for them. They were some 1st wave offering once the power base got what they wanted.
ZRX1200 Offline
#400 Posted:
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Posts: 57,997
Well look at what they did with Gretchen and Russia-gate…..

Another rogue alphabet group that needs to Epstein itself.
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