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MACS Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 5:00 PM EST
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Ron Rivera... you're fired.

Mike Vrabel... You're fired, too.

Arthur Smith... you suck, get out.

Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels... you guys suck so bad we didn't even wait to fire you. Pound sand, losers.

Frank Reich... ? Meh. You get a pass. Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay is a douchenozzle.

Aaaaaand... go. Who's next?
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 5:15 PM EST
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Hopefully Luke Getz OC in Chicago.
delta1 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 9:14 PM EST
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possibly Rams Special Teams Coordinator Chase Blackburn...Rams place kickers have missed more kicks, PATs and FG's, than any team this century...I wouldn't be surprised if the Rams go for two point conversion after any TD, and go for a first down on any fourth down play beyond the 20 yard line...

punting team has given up two returns to the house...

if they lose the playoff game due to special teams failures, he's toast...
Palama Online
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 9 2024, 10:04 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Ron Rivera... you're fired. Deservedly so.

Mike Vrabel... You're fired, too. Mistake. He’s gonna be a great coach somewhere else.

Arthur Smith... you suck, get out. Woulda given him one more year. Wanted to see Atlanta play New Orleans next season.

Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels... you guys suck so bad we didn't even wait to fire you. Pound sand, losers. Some people, like those two are best as coordinators, not head coaches.

Frank Reich... ? Meh. You get a pass. Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay is a douchenozzle. David Tepper is worse!

Aaaaaand... go. Who's next? Iffin’ Mike McCarthy gets beaten by the Packers, he’s gone. Come to think of it, iffin’ he doesn’t go to the Super Bowl, Jerry will chase Jim Harbaugh.

Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 12:12 AM EST
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Is this limited to NFL?

If not it was refreshing that Brian Kelly shitcanned his entire defensive coaching staff from DC Matt House all the way down.
MACS Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 5:59 AM EST
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And now the Jags Doug Pederson fired most of his staff.

Wonder how Trevor Lawrence responds now... was thinking he was the problem. He regressed this year.
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#7 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 6:27 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
And now the Jags Doug Pederson fired most of his staff.

Wonder how Trevor Lawrence responds now... was thinking he was the problem. He regressed this year.


“ Whataya talking about Wilbuuuur?”
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#8 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 11:24 AM EST
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Why are the Patriots holding onto the Hoodie?

Can see Harbaugh going there.

Maybe that is what Kraft is waiting for.
MACS Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 1:25 PM EST
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Harbaugh to Chicago made sense to me... but apparently they're going to keep Eberflus.
Palama Online
#10 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 2:17 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Why are the Patriots holding onto the Hoodie?

Can see Harbaugh going there.

Maybe that is what Kraft is waiting for.


Iffin’ Kraft decides to move on, I can absolutely see Vrabel going there. NE Ring of Honor, tough, hard-nosed style of football, he’d be a great successor to BB.

Or this scenario: Vrabel gets hired as the DC with the understanding / promise that he gets the HC job when Bill retires / moves on. I can see this happening, especially since MV is still gonna get his full pay from Tennessee or the difference should he take a lesser position. Bill can continue his chase for the all-time wins and after he gets it, retires and MV gets the HC job.

Holy chit! Pat McAfee just announced that Pete Carroll is no longer the HC in Seattle but potentially gonna move up in the organization. Gotta stay tune for more details. BTW, I can’t stand PC so no tears from me. Glad I won’t be seeing his gum-chewing face on the sideline anymore.
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#11 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 6:22 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Iffin’ Kraft decides to move on, I can absolutely see Vrabel going there. NE Ring of Honor, tough, hard-nosed style of football, he’d be a great successor to BB.

Or this scenario: Vrabel gets hired as the DC with the understanding / promise that he gets the HC job when Bill retires / moves on. I can see this happening, especially since MV is still gonna get his full pay from Tennessee or the difference should he take a lesser position. Bill can continue his chase for the all-time wins and after he gets it, retires and MV gets the HC job.

Holy chit! Pat McAfee just announced that Pete Carroll is no longer the HC in Seattle but potentially gonna move up in the organization. Gotta stay tune for more details. BTW, I can’t stand PC so no tears from me. Glad I won’t be seeing his gum-chewing face on the sideline anymore.


Other than being Coach of the Year a couple years ago, Vrabel has back to back losing records. What is the allure?
MACS Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 6:25 PM EST
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Saban is retiring...

How many of his players are filling out transfer portal paperwork right now?
8trackdisco Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 6:47 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Saban is retiring...

How many of his players are filling out transfer portal paperwork right now?


Surprising. Didn’t think his ego would allow himself to do that.
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#14 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 6:55 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Other than being Coach of the Year a couple years ago, Vrabel has back to back losing records. What is the allure?


This is what I was thinking. Many Patriots fans would like him to coach the Patriots if and when Belichick is let go (I don't think he's going to go out very peacefully). The Patriots have deeper problems then the poor coaching staff. Belichick is/was also the GM and has failed at that miserably. They need to enter into a serious rebuilding mode including players, coaching, scouts and GM. That's not an easy task and Patriot nation would like an immediate fix. If that doesn't happen they turn into fair weather fans.

Hiring Vrabel into that mess might not be his best career move.
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#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 7:06 PM EST
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Seattle Seahawks coach removed...
Moving him to the front office as a coordinator? Consultant?
Water boy? The dude is 72...
PAH-PO NEEDS A NAP..
GIVE HIM A PULL OUT SOFA BED IN HIS FRONT OFFICE.
Palama Online
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 8:46 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Other than being Coach of the Year a couple years ago, Vrabel has back to back losing records. What is the allure?


I think these days almost everyone wants instant gratification so little to no patience. I still think the Titans owner made a mistake and she’ll regret it a couple years from now.
ZRX1200 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2024, 10:50 PM EST
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Bears fired Getsey!!!

Happy days!
Palama Online
#18 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 12:01 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Bears fired Getsey!!!

Happy days!


Luke wasn’t ready so not a surprise. Mebbe he can join Hackett in New York?
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#19 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 12:14 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
Saban is retiring...

How many of his players are filling out transfer portal paperwork right now?


Better question is how many of those players will transfer to LSU since in many cases we were one of their top 2 or 3 choices before the chose Bama.

Wouldn’t be a stretch considering the current state of things here. We should have a strong offense. DC hire’s former team is coming off back to back seasons where their defense was solid. We were already considered a contender for the 2024 season and that was before Doghouse and his pets were given the boot. So it’s certainly possible to grab a handful.
MACS Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 10:27 AM EST
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Welp... looks like Bill Belichik is out in New England. End of a historic run. Can't argue with results. GOAT.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 10:39 AM EST
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Williams isn’t picking LSU….

Who is gonna pick up the cheating mantle now that Bill is gone?
Does Kraft give out gold watches or massage gift certificates?

He was a tremendous coordinator and it’ll be a short trip to Canton.
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#22 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 10:42 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Williams isn’t picking LSU….


Whomever does? Really?

ZRX1200 wrote:
Who is gonna pick up the cheating mantle now that Bill is gone?


Prolly some booger eater that just won a National Championship?

ZRX1200 wrote:
Does Kraft give out gold watches or massage gift certificates?


Both. He's rich and can afford to buy friends.

ZRX1200 wrote:
He was a tremendous coordinator and it’ll be a short trip to Canton.


Hoodie or no Hoodie...that is the question!
8trackdisco Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 12:03 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:

Who is gonna pick up the cheating mantle now that Bill is gone.
.

Yet another vote for Harbaugh!
MACS Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 12:16 PM EST
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Y'all sour grape mother effers must have permanent bitter beer face. LOL
8trackdisco Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 12:32 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Y'all sour grape mother effers must have permanent bitter beer face. LOL


😀
Palama Online
#26 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 12:35 PM EST
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We’ll NEVER see another coach / GM like Bill in our lifetimes. Years from now us NE haters will be able to look back and appreciate those 24 years for the greatness that they were.

Heard a couple of pretty interesting facts:

Bill has a winning record against every NFL team.

During the 24 years that Bill was HC for the Patriots, the rest of the NFL hired 213 head coaches - an average of almost 7 per team.
MACS Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 3:42 PM EST
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When he took over the Patriots job, they were perennial doormats and 37 games UNDER .500... and now they are over 100 games OVER .500, have a winning playoff record and 6 Lombardi trophies.
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 5:17 PM EST
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Bears are moving Shane Waldron the OC for Seattle. Young and smart and definitely an improvement….
delta1 Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 7:55 PM EST
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yup...the days when the NFL go looking for head coaches among the top college coaches are mostly over...over the past few decades, very few have matched their college success. Another factor is that the salaries for some of the more senior successful college coaches are often higher than what the pros pay. The fertile ground is now among young bright assistants who are working for young bright HCs.
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#30 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 8:03 PM EST
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wonder if Waldron knew that Pete Carroll was gonna get tossed...maybe he woulda landed the HC at Seattle...
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#31 Posted: Thu, Jan 11 2024, 10:18 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
When he took over the Patriots job, they were perennial doormats and 37 games UNDER .500... and now they are over 100 games OVER .500, have a winning playoff record and 6 Lombardi trophies.



I became a fan in the late 60's,bout 6-7 years old,those uniforms and helmets were so cool.The first 30 years of being a fan were tough but the next 20 plus with Bill and Tom made it all worthwhile.Both will be missed but always remembered as a Patriot regardless of their final journey.

Godspeed Coach
ZRX1200 Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 12:00 AM EST
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Pull their junk out your mouf.
MACS Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 6:22 AM EST
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How can it be in his mouf when it's so far up your ass?
8trackdisco Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 6:53 AM EST
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MACS Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 3:46 PM EST
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Jerod Mayo... new coach of the Pats.
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#36 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 5:03 PM EST
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How much is Harbaugh getting from Michigan now?
He's supposedly in contract negotiations delayed by the cheating scandal.
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#37 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 5:14 PM EST
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The Patriots signed Mayo to a contract extension last year and written in that contract was that he was the next in line of succession. For good or bad, Kraft considered Mayo to be the heir apparent for a while now... kinda behind the scenes. This also allowed the Patriots get around the NFL Rooney Rule (requirement to interview two minority candidates for a coaching vacancy).

I wonder if Kraft would have done this if he knew more experienced coaches like Vrabel, maybe Harbaugh, maybe Tomlin would/might be available. Mayo's only coaching experience is 5 years as the Patriot's linebacker coach. Prior to that I think he was doing sports talk radio or something after he retired from playing football.
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#38 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 5:39 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
The Patriots signed Mayo to a contract extension last year and written in that contract was that he was the next in line of succession. For good or bad, Kraft considered Mayo to be the heir apparent for a while now... kinda behind the scenes. This also allowed the Patriots get around the NFL Rooney Rule (requirement to interview two minority candidates for a coaching vacancy).

I wonder if Kraft would have done this if he knew more experienced coaches like Vrabel, maybe Harbaugh, maybe Tomlin would/might be available. Mayo's only coaching experience is 5 years as the Patriot's linebacker coach. Prior to that I think he was doing sports talk radio or something after he retired from playing football.


I’mma really curious how a succession plan allows teams to bypass the Rooney Rule. I don’t care that it was the Patriots that did it, just wanna know how and why.

Google search here we come!

Edit: Well, whatdaya know, succession plans in the NFL have been done 3 times before!. And better yet, it’s within the Rooney Rule so no bypassing, cheating or sleight of hand. Nothing for NE haters to get angry about…other than the fact that Kraft was (mebbe) smart enough to recognize the next coach he wanted and how to get him onboard without all the rigmarole of the hiring process.

https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/succession-plan-contract-clause-could-fast-track-jerod-mayo-be-patriots-coach-report-says/A57M7PGFPFFEDCITHL36R7T5KE/
MACS Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 6:44 PM EST
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It's a stupid rule. Hire who you think is best.

I don't see any players complaining there's not enough Asians in the NFL.
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#40 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 7:36 PM EST
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As I understand it, if you put it in the contract ahead of time and notify the NFL that you have a line of succession, then you don't have to do the Rooney Rule. The flip side is, you kinda locked yourself in to abiding by it.

When Kraft redid the Mayo contract, that was part of the contract in order to keep Mayo from seeking other coaching jobs outside of the Patriots (keep in mind, the Patriots have been crumbling for the past few years so there might have been the sinking ship mentality going on).

Publicly they didn't beat the drum that Mayo was going to be the next in line, they beat the drum that they locked in Mayo for the foreseeable future (small news, Patriots locked up their linebacker coach under contract.... whoopie)

I'm sure Belichick, after reading the contract that Kraft made with Mayo, knew of this changing of the guard and saw the writing on the wall. That probably pissed him off. Rumors have it that Kraft wanted to move on from Belichick before this last season and they have been head butting since then. Kraft overruled some of Belichick choices and forced some of the assistant coaches on his coaching staff in 2023.

I think Belichick is a good coach but, in my opinion his time has past. Name one assistant coach in his coaching tree that has excelled. Most have failed. $hit, he hired his son to be an assistant coach. I think he's a horrible GM. Set your ego aside Bill, retire in dignity and move on.

I'm not sure Mayo is the best selection going forward but I'm not an NFL pro. Kraft made his bed so let's see how it pans out. I'm guessing at least 3 years, if they can do things right, then they can they become a viable team again.

Signed,

A Packer fan who's team is on the up stoke while living in MA surrounded by Pat's fans while their team crumbles.
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#41 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 8:49 PM EST
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Did you listen to Krafty’s press conference? Why TF is he reading a generic announcement? The guy made your franchise a dynasty…..show some respect and speak from your little black heart Tuggy-son
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#42 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 9:03 PM EST
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And also, how are they circumventing the the Rooney Rule if they’re HIRING a black coach?
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#43 Posted: Fri, Jan 12 2024, 10:15 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
How much is Harbaugh getting from Michigan now?
He's supposedly in contract negotiations delayed by the cheating scandal.


Don't know the numbers, but a sports talkshow said he has a ten year contract on the table in front of him if he wants it.

It is allegeded he has an NFL agent looking for a place for him. He's bugged he hasn't won a Super Bowl.
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#44 Posted: Sat, Jan 13 2024, 6:17 AM EST
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^He fkn should have with the Niners. He let his brother beat him. d'oh!

Somehow I am very glad that Krapperdick never won one, though.
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#45 Posted: Sat, Jan 13 2024, 11:34 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
And also, how are they circumventing the the Rooney Rule if they’re HIRING a black coach?

I think the "Rooney Rule" is that you have to interview two ethnic minority candidates before picking a coach. However if the contract with an assistant coach states that they are the heir apparent for the next coach when the other one leaves or is dismissed and you notify the NFL as such, the organization doesn't have to interview other candidates.

I could be wrong. I'm not a legal guy for NFL rules.
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#46 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2024, 7:08 PM EST
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Anyone betting that McCarthy is unemployed tomorrow??
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#47 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2024, 7:18 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Anyone betting that McCarthy is unemployed tomorrow??


Iffin’ I was in Vegas and there was a bet to be had, I’d put some money down.
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#48 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2024, 7:35 PM EST
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bank it...didja see the expression on Jerry Jones' face the few times the cameras zoomed in on him during the blow-out?

But I don't think he'd want Belichick, unless he can bring a 10 year younger Tom Brady with him...
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#49 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2024, 7:55 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
bank it...didja see the expression on Jerry Jones' face the few times the cameras zoomed in on him during the blow-out?

But I don't think he'd want Belichick, unless he can bring a 10 year younger Tom Brady with him...


You do realize that Belichick won 2 superbowls as the Giants defensive coordinator, right? His forte' is and always has been defense. What did Parcells ever win without BB??? Nothing.

Bill won 6 without Parcells... always with good defense. Brady and Billy thrived with each other. Brady parked himself in the perfect situation when he left.
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#50 Posted: Mon, Jan 15 2024, 8:49 PM EST
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I don't think the mix of Belichick and Jones would work out too well. Belichick likes to be in control of everything and so does Jones. Past couple of years as the Patriots started to go down hill, Kraft started to stick his nose into the Patriots's stuff of picking players and coaches and stuff. There was some head butting as a result.

I don't think the personalities of Belichick and Jones would be a good be a good mix. Too many inflated egos between the two.
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