heh, Rick, welcome aboard! Gater, I addressed the thread, I thought I did so well, with facts, and some speculation. However, WRT your last post, I don't agree completely. Yes, if someone wants to work, they probably could, however, certain fields have been hit extremely hard. i.e., my field, networking. There are a plethora of highly skilled networking professionals who have been pushed in to unemployment as a result of two things, 1 a decline in the sector, and 2, a glut of people trying to get in to the field. True, they could get jobs carrying bricks, or making subs, however, undeniably, some fields have been impacted by the decline in the economy. I'm hopeful that it continues to improve so that all who seek work can find it.