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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Jun 14 2003, 12:59 PM EST
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
Most unemployment claims since 1983
i wonder who was president then.

the article, if you care:
http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/91867p-83465c.html
Intel Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Jun 14 2003, 3:22 PM EST
Joined: 06-24-2002
Posts: 546
Rick I hear there are several jobs in construction but I think they are in the east. Mid-East.
donutboy2000 Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Jun 14 2003, 6:09 PM EST
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
Time to hit Syria and Iran to get the economy moving.
tarheel4lyf Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 1:04 AM EST
Joined: 09-23-2002
Posts: 2,543
Rick,

I always liked you, and thought you were a great guy, but lately, all you ever do is post political, anti-Bush remarks. Is this all you ever think about? Come on, man. The guy won the election, there's nothing you can do about that. Just leave it alone, and place your vote in the next election. This is really getting old. BTW, see my post about Father's Day. LOL.....
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 2:13 AM EST
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and a happy father's day to you.

i don't post pictures of women in bikinis because i am not obsessed with them.

i'm sorry, i am obsessed by the current administration and the only way i have to try to prevent the reelection in 2004 is to try to inform. one does what one can. i put NP on nonpolitical posts so you can avoid what i post that you and others are not interested in reading.



RICKAMAVEN Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 2:17 AM EST
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Posts: 33,248
tarheel4ly

try these NP posts

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picture post

Magnafide RICKAMAVEN 6 sketcha 06/14/2003 02:17 PM
Robby Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 10:41 AM EST
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
Hey Rick, seems to be worded in a tricky way, "Jobless at 20 year high

Most unemployment claims since 1983

By JUDITH SCHOOLMAN
DAILY NEWS BUSINESS WRITER


Jobless claims have been rising this year.

"In an ongoing sign of the weak economy, the number of Americans getting unemployment benefits hit the highest level in more than 20 years during the last week of May."

A couple of qstns,

1. What is the number of Americans "employed" now vs. 20 years ago? Are their more Americans employed as well as more unemployed? Implying that "there are more Americans?"

2. On-going sign of the weak economy... I believe all indications were that the recession began in the Clinton presidency and these things neither occur in a flash or disappear in a flash. It's like a large ship trying to turn. The economists I listen to on Sunday morning and read in the financial journals all say that the leading economic indicators are all positive? How can you have such an antithetical view of current trends?

i.e., “The Wall Street Journal reports that, between Oct. 9, 2002, and May 9, 2003 (Oct. 9 being the market's low), the Dow Jones Industrial Average jumped 18.1 percent. If that pace continues, the Dow will be up 31 percent for that 12-month period.”

That’s a good thing, right? Or are you hoping that things go down hill, so that Bush will be blamed? I do believe we’re struggling, but I also believe (like it or not) that President Bush’s stimulus (read tax cuts! That’s right tax cuts stimulate the economy) are helping and not hurting. Additionally, virtually everyone polled trusts the republicans more with national security than the democrats.

I’m afraid you’re in for another 4 years of dubbya :-)
And thankfully, that's a good thing for the American people.
Robby Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 11:19 AM EST
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
p.s., I personally enjoy your political posts :-) I don't agree with them, but I do enjoy them. Please don't change a thing.
sketcha Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 11:53 AM EST
Joined: 03-26-2003
Posts: 3,238
Here here!
eleltea Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 1:23 PM EST
Joined: 03-03-2002
Posts: 4,562
I think I will vote for Gore next year because I don't think I can handle 4 more years of Rickamaven's Bush posts. lmao
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 4:37 PM EST
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eleltea

if gore gets the nomination i might vote (excuse me i swallowed my tongue) for (oh ****, margaret, it's the big one, i'm coming to you.) w.

oh!! the humanity
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 4:39 PM EST
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Posts: 33,248
can i take that back.

i can't show my face
can't go anyplace
people stop and stare
it's so hard to bare
everybody knows......................
usahog Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jun 15 2003, 7:42 PM EST
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
get out of the 60's ricky!!!!!!


LMAO!!!!!

Hog
tailgater Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Jun 16 2003, 4:20 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
I hate to break apart this love fest, but I'd like to respond to the original post.

I know the economy is tight. But I also know that it's damn near impossible to find somebody that wants to WORK.
Unemployment numbers mean NOTHING when so many of the umemployed are simply unwilling to be employed.

Don't get me wrong. I realize that MANY folks are without work through no fault of their own, and those people are truly looking for jobs and deserve government assistance to keep them going.

But a frighteningly large percentage are simply dragging their feet until such time the government stops their checks.

Yet these slobs count towards that lofty unemployement tally.
Robby Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Jun 16 2003, 4:33 PM EST
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heh, Rick, welcome aboard! Gater, I addressed the thread, I thought I did so well, with facts, and some speculation. However, WRT your last post, I don't agree completely. Yes, if someone wants to work, they probably could, however, certain fields have been hit extremely hard. i.e., my field, networking. There are a plethora of highly skilled networking professionals who have been pushed in to unemployment as a result of two things, 1 a decline in the sector, and 2, a glut of people trying to get in to the field. True, they could get jobs carrying bricks, or making subs, however, undeniably, some fields have been impacted by the decline in the economy. I'm hopeful that it continues to improve so that all who seek work can find it.
Homebrew Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Jun 16 2003, 7:21 PM EST
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
Are you willing to flip burgers, after 2+ years of culinary school? Are you willing to "Live Hang Chickens, after earning your masters degree in marketing? How about running a CNC machine after 20+ years of tool and die work???
Just asking.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
tailgater Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Jun 16 2003, 7:34 PM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Robby,
I did state that many folks are without employment due to circumstance beyond their control.
That does not paint the whole picture, however.

It used to be that when unemployment figures rose, it was easier to find honest, hard working folks who wanted to make a buck even if only temporarily.

An economic downturn with corresponding jobless rates used to "right the ship". Look at the '80s when secretaries at computer giants (Digital) used to have secretaries of their own. And they all made $60K.
What happened when the bottom fell out of that industry? Those overpaid receptionists felt jilted when they earned a "measley" $25K, not realizing that was their true financial worth to begin with.

When entire industries take a hit, as yours has, people adjust. It would be foolish to wait until your exact job title and pay scale became available before you started working again, wouldn't it? Instead, the smart workers alter their job description, their payscale, or both.

When Henry Ford introduced an affordable automobile, the blacksmiths didn't look to Uncle Sam to support them.

This is in NO way pointed at you, Robby. Quite the contrary. Intelligent people make intelligent decisions.



tailgater Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Jun 16 2003, 7:40 PM EST
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Homebrew,
I have an engineering degree and I sweep floors.

I also run production equipment and find new business contacts, as well as develop products for my customers.

I wish the economy were stronger so it would be easier to get our business going to the point where I no longer had to be on the production floor.
But until such time, I will do what needs to be done in order to survive. To keep the business going and to put food on my table.
Nobody said life would go as planned.

Work hard. Play harder.
It's all worth it.

Homebrew Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Jun 16 2003, 8:24 PM EST
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
Tailgater,
I Do
;-)
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
eleltea Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2003, 2:53 AM EST
Joined: 03-03-2002
Posts: 4,562
Rick, on the menu of one of the valley deli's, under the listing for a tongue sandwich: It's the talk of the town.
tailgater Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2003, 2:27 PM EST
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Posts: 26,185
Home,
I figured you did.

Peace.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2003, 4:41 PM EST
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eleltea

which valley. we have the san fernando valley, pronounced wally by my brethern. and there we have mort's deli. tongue sandwhich $7.95. with potato salad and a new pickle, dr peepers cream soda, bottle of course, $1.25.

right next door to bea's bakery. a dozen black and whites wrapped double for freezing, a small piece 7 layer, and a seeded rye sliced thin.
eleltea Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2003, 6:03 PM EST
Joined: 03-03-2002
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Rick, I have bought a lot of kichlach from Bea's bakery, even tho I still haven't learned how to spell it. Mort's, Jerry's, Brent's. All good SFV deli's. Wish I had some kishka with brown gravy right now. My arteries need tightening.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Jun 17 2003, 8:27 PM EST
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Posts: 33,248
i think of you as a texan. what do texans know from a good piece cod?
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