tailgator: there is a different generation out there now. i don't think we have seen this before and shaq is not the cause, nor is it the "right wing bleeding heart hippies". 2 incidents. a friend of mine, who also is my computor guro, is 25. he says he can relate to my age group easier than to 23 year olds. he says he does not even understand their thinking process. the other. one of my clients is a college professor. he told me that in the 16 + years of teaching and watching new generation after new generation, the freshman class last year was so different than any other freshman class he has ever taught. he said "i can't reach them. they do their work and respond in class, but they are like zombies. they have no interest in anything on their own." don't blame the left or the right. it is a phenomena we have never seen.