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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#51 Posted: Mon, Mar 29 2004, 7:34 PM EST
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00camper

"Clinton defenders said that the flaws are not relevant"

i am not a clinton defender and his flaws did and do matter. i look at him with different eyes now. partially because i had two cornea transplants, but also because i don't respect him after we found out about his liason with a young girl.

i still believe he did a good job for the country, but i never liked guys that spent a lot of their time trolling.

little w is a different matter. however he got to his personal lack of rachmones towards other people is not really important. he got there none the less. i was attempting to point out some of the manifestations of his character, examples if you will.

it starts in the id and unfortunately the superego was not well formed.

as a young man he was cruel to himself and as an adult he is cruel to others. in texas he could only "blow up his frogs" one at a time. now he can do it en masse with never a thought of the consequences to others.

character is what we all have. good or bad is what you have when you don't expect any one will find out what you are doing.
eleltea Offline
#52 Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2004, 5:49 AM EST
Joined: 03-03-2002
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I think it is the swagger and the smirk. Even someone who would choose Dubya over Pol Pot to lead the country, such as I (but not, I suspect, such as Rick) must admit the swagger and the smirk are not attractive, and if Carl Rove weren't such a smirker and swaggerer himself, he would have helped his protege eliminate those quirks a long time ago. Dubya's a good looking guy who doesn't know how to walk or hold his face right, so I can see how easy it would be for people who are predisposed to a different political viewpoint to take an instant dislike to him.

Kerry walks okay, but he has an expression like a bassett hound. Like Sam Donaldson, no point in smiling. No one will believe he means it.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#53 Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2004, 8:05 AM EST
Joined: 10-21-2000
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Rick, c'mon!

Did a good job?

With what?

The only thing he did well was rope-a-dope his ass from getting bounced outta the White House because people like YOU with YOUR mindset didn't care enough to stand with what was right. He's a slime. A 1000 fold of whatever you think of GW, multiply it by infinity and you'd have Clinton.

He managed the Executive branch by public polls. There are numerous quotes here where GW has had to clean up the mess(more than replacing the carpet!!!)that the previous administration left in a heap by the door they were exiting!

Before all the shrill girly-voiced whines come out, I'll say to whomever says anything about the economy being in great shape under Clinton these two things.

1) It's better now than when he left.

2) Republican's took control of the House and Senate. Cutting off the "gravy-train" mentality with the Contract to America initiative!
gjhuff Offline
#54 Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2004, 9:26 AM EST
Joined: 05-30-2002
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Leon:

I too am sorry for the loss of your son. But I can't let your attacks on Bush go unrebutted.

First, Bush was elected President under the system we have, like it or not. He wasn't the first President elected with less popular votes than the other guy and he won't be the last. Calling him "appointed" is nothing more than sour grapes. Courts decide legal disputes in this country.

Second, Bush's joke about WMDs was clearly meant to be at his own expense, not anything elses.

Third, calling the Iraq war based on oil is clearly inaccurate. We will get no more oil or less oil for having fought it. The surest proof of that is oil's current high price.

Fourth, to say Bush has not been fighting the war on terrorism is baloney. Under his watch, Afghanistan was invaded, the Taliban evicted and Al Queda is on the run.

Finally, you ask if I would be willing to lose a son or daughter in this preemptive war which was not fought as "a last resort." No parent I know of would ever be willing to lose a son or daughter. But rest assured, your son fought for a noble purpose. I'd rather have us fighting the terrorists over there than here. There's a line in the fourth verse of the Star-Spangled Banner -

Oh! thus be it ever
When free men shall stand
Between their lov'd home
And the war's desolation;

Our soldiers over in Iraq are doing just that - keeping war's desolation from our shores.

dbguru Offline
#55 Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2004, 9:28 AM EST
Joined: 03-06-2002
Posts: 1,300
DMV says
1) It's better now than when he left.
Try telling that to the 3 million who lost jobs and the 10s of millions more that have been re-employed into jobs that are being shipped overseas. You'd get your head bashed in for the ultimate in denseness, DMV

2) Republican's took control of the House and Senate. Cutting off the "gravy-train" mentality with the Contract to America initiative!

So much for the great American system of checks and balances. And with 95% of the press being owned and run by those supporting Republican agendas and the current midnight appointments of judges with extreme right wing views and sidestepping Congress whenever they are out of session. This is a power grab never seen since Germany 1933.


rekcak Offline
#56 Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2004, 9:33 AM EST
Joined: 09-04-2003
Posts: 184
AH.. I agree....nathan's from the original store & some cross cut fries. The dogs you buy in the supermarket are just not the same, but the new nathan's fries that they now sell are very good. They lack the little bits of sand and you can't ride the cyclone when your done, but such is life.

BobK
00camper Offline
#57 Posted: Tue, Mar 30 2004, 5:54 PM EST
Joined: 07-11-2003
Posts: 2,326
dbguru,

So, when Democrats have control of both houses of congress and they railroad legislation over the objections of Republicans its "checks and balances," but when Republicans have control and do the same thing its a "power grab?"

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#58 Posted: Wed, Mar 31 2004, 2:26 AM EST
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
00camper

i think you are trying to get my gander up.

and there will be no goosing in line. stand with your hands at your sides.
tailgater Offline
#59 Posted: Thu, Apr 1 2004, 8:09 AM EST
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Good thread.
Welcome, Leon, and my deepest and sincerest sympathy to you and your family for your ultimate loss.

On future posts, if you so choose, you can add tremendous credability to your political viewpoints if you don't start out with the complete inacuracy regarding the last presidential election.

Our sitting President, George W. Bush, was indeed elected. Yes, it was close. Yes, there was controversy. But he was elected nonetheless.

Recounting the ballots should mean "counting the votes again". It should not mean "counting until you get the number you want to achieve".

You seem to think otherwise...
Leon Offline
#60 Posted: Fri, Apr 2 2004, 8:01 AM EST
Joined: 03-29-2004
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Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris officially certified George W. Bush as the "winner" in Florida by 537 votes.
Since that date, independent investigations by the media have revealed that many illegal votes were counted - while many legal votes were not.
If the votes in Florida had been counted by non-partisan election officials in compliance with the law, Gore would have won Florida.
Unfortunately, George W. Bush, his brother Governor Jeb Bush, Secretary of State Katherine Harris, a partisan Republican majority on the U.S. Supreme Court, and the Republican-owned media did everything in their power to prevent a fair and legal count of the votes. Unfortunately you and many who respond to this site are blinded by lies. You choose not to see the fact that we went to war because "W" pushed his access to intelligence and stated to congress and the American people that we were going to war because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and we could be attacked-LIE and my son died for a lie. All I have to say to you and every one who has believed his lies is if you aren't completely appalled, then you haven't been paying attention. SHAME on you.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#61 Posted: Fri, Apr 2 2004, 1:16 PM EST
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
Leon

nice to meet you. sit down. have a beer oR coffee and help yourself to one of my cigars from an ISOM.
bloody spaniard Offline
#62 Posted: Fri, Apr 2 2004, 1:57 PM EST
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
Leon, my condolences to you and your family.

Rick, you're insane but always a gentleman.
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